And how about the fact that many have already rebutted those questions you now ask me many months ago? Would you kindly counter those rebuttals, my dear man?
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Tourists find S'pore too expensive
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And how about the fact that many have already rebutted those questions you now ask me many months ago? Would you kindly counter those rebuttals, my dear man?
I stayed in London for a few years and have gone up the London Eye thrice - just to accompany my friends who were in town for a visit.
Well, you could travel to nearby SE Asian countries from Singapore
European cities look the same after a while....
Well, you could travel to nearby SE Asian countries from Singapore
European cities look the same after a while....Well, you could travel to nearby SE Asian countries from Singapore
The point is why visit Spore at all?
Lets be honest, spore is very artificial. PAP has very itchy hands & has renovated/upgraded Spore into a boring place lah.
If you've stayed in London you must be familiar with the many attractions other the the eye. Yes its expensive but it has so many attractions. The people treasure their past & taken pains to conserve the old .
I often go to Bangkok/Pataya & theres still many things I haven't gotten around to seeing & doing. Even in Malaysian theres Malacca, Penand, Cameron Highlands & all these places are cheep, cheep.
Sorry, never rebutted. Still unanswered questions in all 483 posts there.
No one answered those questions, which is why Australia is a Ripp-Off!
john,
actually, good things in london come cheap or free a nice walk along the thames, a visit to tate modern / national gallery, strolling along leicester square, etc.
singapoire ain't THAT boring. it's a cute little place.
during my middle school years, a teacher played a mandarin song in effort to get us acquainted with Singapore culture. it was a song by liang wenfu, and if my memory serves me well - the song's titled "walking from east to west coast" (you have to excuse my chinese). as far as i could remember, the song conveyed helplessness and a tinge of angst at Singapore's changing landscape where old, authentic structures were being demolished to make way for spanking new buildings.
but i think it's part of progress. and, thus far, a lot of colonial buildings and shophouses have been nicely restored. so it would be a tad unfair to proclaim no efforts on the government's part to conserve quaint architecture. perhaps singapore's just a little too small, and when you have lived here for a while, it bores.
juz beach
actually, good things in london come cheap or free
a nice walk along the thames, a visit to tate modern / national gallery, strolling along leicester square, etc.singapoire ain't THAT boring. it's a cute little place.
during my middle school years, a teacher played a mandarin song in effort to get us acquainted with Singapore culture. it was a song by liang wenfu, and if my memory serves me well - the song's titled "walking from east to west coast" (you have to excuse my chinese). as far as i could remember, the song conveyed helplessness and a tinge of angst at Singapore's changing landscape where old, authentic structures were being demolished to make way for spanking new buildings.
but i think it's part of progress. and, thus far, a lot of colonial buildings and shophouses have been nicely restored. so it would be a tad unfair to proclaim no efforts on the government's part to conserve quaint architecture. perhaps singapore's just a little too small, and when you have lived here for a while, it bores.
juz beach
Actually msia quite a nice place to see...the old kampong, the heritage architecture, the big farms...got natural scenery...
but Singapore is just an island of shopping malls.
and
sad to say...all malls are alike.
From boon lay to Pasir ris, from woodlands to vivo.
You can find the usual suspects of the shops.
How exciting it is.
:o :( :o
sg is not that expensive if one gets away from tourist traps and starts exploring hole-in-the-wall locales with some help.
i had a stopover in sg for a couple of days last fall and was glad to do the following:
a. shop at town centers near mrt stations. things are much less expensive there than at orchard road.
b. visit geylang at night. great place with lots of meat and action. love that eating place with no name - no signboard restaurant? great food, warm tropical outdoor atmosphere, and easy on the wallet.
c. jog along siglap linear park in the wee hours of the morning, from siglap to east coast park. and spy on those poor maids washing automobiles at 6 in the morning. modern slavery at work.
d. have a mee pok ta and kopi after the jog at upper east coast road? can't remember the road name, but it's close to the siglap linear park entrance. great mee pok and kopi for less than sgd3. see ah soh and ah pek at work in their t's and shorts.
e. grab a half-boiled egg, kopi and kaya toast combo at any kopi joint in food courts and shopping malls, and sit there to admire the hustle and bustle of sg city life at 8 to 9 in the morning.
f. everytime i'm in sg, i have to have lunch at the swee kee restaurant in amoy street. sliced fish with bean sprouts is a must. almost a regular pilgrimage when i pay respect to the clan shrines in the real old chinatown of sg. the other "chinatown" is a joke.
g. spend an hour at least at kampong ubi. and have a fresh sugar cane drink at the bedok hawker center near the mrt.
h. drive or grab a cab to south buona vista road and have the best meal of the day - boneless and skinless duck with rice and sambal kangkong.
i. take mrt rides all over the island - it's clean, inexpensive and convenient.
j. avoid buying and drinking wine in sg - it's overblown in price, over-rated and has quality issues with lousy storage and warehousing facilities. i saw pallets of bottles in boxes sitting in the sun and heat waiting to be loaded. they must have tasted like vinegar when served.
i had a stopover in sg for a couple of days last fall and was glad to do the following:
a. shop at town centers near mrt stations. things are much less expensive there than at orchard road.
b. visit geylang at night. great place with lots of meat and action. love that eating place with no name - no signboard restaurant? great food, warm tropical outdoor atmosphere, and easy on the wallet.
c. jog along siglap linear park in the wee hours of the morning, from siglap to east coast park. and spy on those poor maids washing automobiles at 6 in the morning. modern slavery at work.
d. have a mee pok ta and kopi after the jog at upper east coast road? can't remember the road name, but it's close to the siglap linear park entrance. great mee pok and kopi for less than sgd3. see ah soh and ah pek at work in their t's and shorts.
e. grab a half-boiled egg, kopi and kaya toast combo at any kopi joint in food courts and shopping malls, and sit there to admire the hustle and bustle of sg city life at 8 to 9 in the morning.
f. everytime i'm in sg, i have to have lunch at the swee kee restaurant in amoy street. sliced fish with bean sprouts is a must. almost a regular pilgrimage when i pay respect to the clan shrines in the real old chinatown of sg. the other "chinatown" is a joke.
g. spend an hour at least at kampong ubi. and have a fresh sugar cane drink at the bedok hawker center near the mrt.
h. drive or grab a cab to south buona vista road and have the best meal of the day - boneless and skinless duck with rice and sambal kangkong.
i. take mrt rides all over the island - it's clean, inexpensive and convenient.
j. avoid buying and drinking wine in sg - it's overblown in price, over-rated and has quality issues with lousy storage and warehousing facilities. i saw pallets of bottles in boxes sitting in the sun and heat waiting to be loaded. they must have tasted like vinegar when served.
john,
actually, good things in london come cheap or free
singapoire ain't THAT boring. it's a cute little place.
during my middle school years, a teacher played a mandarin song in effort to get us acquainted with Singapore culture. it was a song by liang wenfu, and if my memory serves me well - the song's titled "walking from east to west coast" (you have to excuse my chinese). as far as i could remember, the song conveyed helplessness and a tinge of angst at Singapore's changing landscape where old, authentic structures were being demolished to make way for spanking new buildings.
but i think it's part of progress. and, thus far, a lot of colonial buildings and shophouses have been nicely restored. so it would be a tad unfair to proclaim no efforts on the government's part to conserve quaint architecture. perhaps singapore's just a little too small, and when you have lived here for a while, it bores.
juz beach
It doesn't really matter what you or I think about peesai. The bottom line is how much money can sinkapore make from tourism. From what I noticed being in the hospitality business, peesai has been getting a lot of cheapo tourist from china and india for the past 5 years.
Sinkapore got nothing special anymore for tourists from the western world. Lots of friends of mine from Canana and States try to by pass peesai and head straight to their destination of Thailand or Downunderwear.
Reasons given were expensive/ crowded/ no different than their cities.
Dear eatshitndie
Those are the things that don't bring much needed tourist mullah to peesai.
If the tourism board were to promote your itinerary, peesai will be in deeper sai than it is right now.
Those are the things that don't bring much needed tourist mullah to peesai.
If the tourism board were to promote your itinerary, peesai will be in deeper sai than it is right now.
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forget about mucho mullah on one visit. the tourism board can do sg a favor by encouraging repeat visits. a little peek here and a little prick there in back roads and slimy alleys can add up to a priceless experience. why shoot the moon on the first opportunity?
anyway, tourists do not need to waste their time at official information booths or offices to find places of interest to visit. if they do that, they have zero planning and zero ideas before their trip. they bound to fall for tourist traps and get ripped off. their fault. not the place where they visit.
Its more like you asked the same questions in a different manner, and that's why people got sick of you. And besides, the immigration thread are full of your, ozsucks and shockshiok's spam threads. Thanks to you, the immigration thread is almost radioactive.
I didn't know you guys don't practice freedom of speech and understand the concept of mutual respect. You all seem to take things personally when most of us don't.
Having been around & seen how some countries have done a good job preserving their historical building, I can't agree that Spore gov't is doing a good job.
I notice many of the so called preserved buildings have been turned to restaurant, KTVs, & shops. Not a case of making space for people but rather a case of commercialisation.
I bet many of the original owners of these buildings got pittance when the gov't 'acquired' their properties
This simple things in life are what ppl used to enjoy just years ago. But I felt that price is crawling up on these item again. Imagine in the recession period, this price still going up!
I suspected it's the tax(GST) doing the evil.
kindly direct your claims to the following newspaper:
4:00AM Saturday Nov 29, 2008
By Jarrod Booker
Kelvin Lawson left Auckland for Sydney about 10 years ago expecting to encounter the "land of milk and honey".
What he found was the opposite - long working hours, higher taxes, higher cost of living and intolerance and poor attitudes among the people.
He and fiancee Denise Laing moved back to Auckland a couple of months ago to be closer to their ageing parents and friends, and are relieved to be back home.
"I believe a lot of New Zealanders are going to get there and they are in for a shock," Mr Lawson said.
"Australia has been painted out to be the 'grass is greener'. It's not. Unless you are making a simple lifestyle choice as in, say, weather... then there's no other reason to go."
Although Mr Lawson, 48, might have earned more in Sydney "it's not a lot more". And he was hit with a 48 per cent tax rate on overtime he was expected to do working in installing and monitoring communications.
Then there was stamp duty for home ownership and higher costs of car ownership.
Back home, Mr Lawson and Ms Laing were amazed at how much cheaper they found basic food items.
Mr Lawson was also left with an impression of many Australians he encountered not being accepting of other cultures. Being from NZ was not so bad, but "if you're from other any part of the world, mate, they can make it really hard for them".
He was also unimpressed at the lack of sportsmanship shown by Australians, illustrated most recently by their reaction to the Rugby League World Cup loss. "If they win at ping pong, you are going to hear about it. If they lose, it's like it never happened. It's unbelievable
Not forgetting the interesting Chow Kitt area in KL
I like KL because it still has a small town atmosphere, some untidyness with all sorts of shops & homes coexisting.
Very easy to get around using the monorail/LRT, Cheap & fast.
GST is only a small part of the increasing costs.
Other cost drivers include the biggest landlord in Spore increasing rentals. Utilies being increased on a regular basis. Same thing with Public transport & taxis. Don't forget the ERP.
All the increases have driven up the costs of small businesses
Its the same thing again. I mean if you don't like the Aussie rugby team, then don't watch it. Why bother if you don't care?
I mean I dearly respect the Aussie culture, their customs, and their sports. But that doesn't make me an Aussie rules football fan.
48% taxes, the worst country in the world, and that's all you can say? no answer to the questions too, i see. never mind. when your water rates & council rates arrive and you have a heart attack, at least someone told you how much its going up this year.
yes, australia truly is the worst country in the world....
I've already rebutted you on that point. And as for water and council rates, I'm not staying in a house that I own in Perth. And its not like Australia is the only country where some states are suffering from droughts.
Perth is now in the summer, but that doesn't mean it is in a drought. Some states have a drought, some don't.
i see no rebuttal. as i said, if you disagree with the newspaper, write to the person who wrote the article and tell them their sources are wrong.
oh, you might want to answer some of the questions - becuase australia is the worst country in the world - and its not my fault, but i love to point out how bad it is to people.
hee hee
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