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Today's Scripture Reading

As Bible-believing Christians, we must hold strongly to our faith and our belief that the Bible is an (or rather the) unique book that has ever written; every word in the Bible is written by God or God-inspired; and the Bible is final authority of how the world has began and how the world would be ended. More importantly, we must fully subscribe to the gospel truth that Jesus, the God of the Bible came in human flesh two thousand years’ ago to change the unchangeable: To redeem man to the original state that God has always wanted and to eventually reconcile man to God and live into eternality.
that is the problem! your whole reality, belief and vision are hinged on a SINGLE book that was written by some unknown scribes aka goat herders 2000-5000 years ago!

if the north koreans can access internet and travel overseas and discover just how vast the difference between the real world versus what Kim Jong Il's and cronies had told them for decades, what do you think will happen? their whole reality will come crashing down and realized how cheated and conned they were for soooo long.

do you get my drift?

if i do this to science, i have no qualms if someone can come up with new findings and theories to supersede the old ones. as what drifter had quote regularly about a saying from Thomas Paine;
"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it." --- how true this statement is!
 
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hi FB, i really believe that any and all questions should be asked. In fact i have heard it being said somewhere that the stupidest question is the one that was never asked.
No pastor, evangelist , preacher or whoever should mind sincere questions being asked.
Jesus Himself answered all of Pilate's questions. He didnt answer Herod's because it was clear to Him that Herod was asking with a view to mock, unlike Pilate who had asked honest questions.So in actuality the Church , cell grp etc should not consider any honest questions ' heathen ' and should try to address them
My colleagues and the friend i had mentioned on the other thread occasionally ask me questions on the Bible and how they relate to certain events eg the tsunami/earthquake. I try to answer them as best as i can but my knowledge is limited so i cannot answer satisfactorily.
On their part they are very understanding. They ask, we discuss and then it ends amicably.
Of course i do pray for them but i do respect the path they have chosen to take.

i beg to differ. MANY pastors and religious leaders feared these type of questions for they will make them loose faces as they have no groundings to do scientific apologetic works. I had tested them before and met with highly unfavourable remarks.

as to the quote of jesus' towards certain events or ideology, it is equivalent to "my mother says this.. my mother says that..." there is no indepedent thought that goes into formulating the questions.

if you want questions, i have thousands of them.. but i cannot accept any replies that stipulate the reliance on the bible because that is one SINGLE, ancient source. even confucius's teachings are slowly irrelevant in the modern days of change.

i need 3-4 independent sources that can triangulate and pinpoint the answers. Even an answer like Theistic evolution will hold values in my sight if you mention that the extreme low probability of life formation on a planet that have balances of gravity, air combination and chemical presence that could help in the bridging from chemicals to organics, and that should be derived from a seas of scientific facts. or a hordes of monkeys smacking on typewriters could not even produce a decent DNA codes which form the first cell's nucleus. im not trying to sound like a smart alex, but this is my true form of my mind and i am pursuing this of finding the truth tirelessly with an unflinching passion. thanks for reading.
 
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that is the problem! your whole reality, belief and vision are hinged on a SINGLE book that was written by some unknown scribes aka goat herders 2000-5000 years ago!..... QUOTE]

The problem is that Bible is NOT A SINGLE book. This book was written by 40 authors of diversed backgrounds - famers, kings, queen, fishermen, doctor, priets, scholars, those without formal education, etc. There are 66 books in the Bible and hence it cannot be called a SINGLE BOOK. Bible is a collection of 66 books. Though there are 66 books, but there is only ONE THEME: God created man as the most wonderful being and due to man's disobedience, man became corrupt, sinful, helpless and hopeless and God is now restoring man to the original state. How this is to be done was prophesised in the Old Testament and fullfilled in the New Testament. Of course many Bible critics will just pull out verses here and there and said some of the stories and teachings are inconsistent. But remember, different authors with different background will describe differently what they saw, read or heard even though event may be the same. A case in point, if you go and read the newspapers of New Yrok Times, Straits Times or Asian Wall Street, you will find their stories do vary because the reporters and journalists have different backgrounds, different writing style, so obviously you can find differences but the facts can be the same. For example, if you go a read about our Presidential Election, every newsaper will tell you the Dr. Tony Tan has been elected as President for the Republic of Singapore. No newspaper will say otherwise. But if you read the details about how the election took place, the sentiment of the voters, you can find the stories vary greatly.

The most wonderful part of the Bible is that the consistencey of the THEME had not be challenged because it cannot be challenged. Even the most die-hand atheists and agnostics (perhaps except you, Drifter and couple of others) can agree to this. Great scholars who spent their lives studying the Bible never disputed consistency of the Bible THEME even some have disagreed that God really exists. At best they could argue is that the stories there is a conspiracy theory which means that the Old Testament was written after the New Testament just to give creditability to the OT prophecies. But the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls has quieted critics on this because it has been scientifically verified that the Dead Sea Scrolls were written about 1,000 years before the Brith of Christ! So, the conspiracy theory is now thrown into the drain and of course they are now trying to find new theory to dispute the authority of the Bible. That's why they are known as die-hard atheists and agnostics. And I must admit I am a die-hard believers because I believe am a sinner and I can only be saved by Jesus. His sacrificial death on the cross has paid may wages - the wages of death. We need to worship Him day and night and to acknowledge His grace and mercy. Remember the Chinese word "Temple" - Temple with the Cros of Jesus is no temple. Let me challenge you to do more research on some Chinese characters and you will discover that many Bible stores both of the OT and the NT are encoded in the characters. Just go to google and search for "Chinese character, Bible" I believe you can find good reading, May who know, you may be backslided and by readong some of these, God may slide you back!

By the way, after being a ''Christian' for over 20 years and you now turn against the God of the Bible still cannot prove that God doesn't exist. The more appropriate question is: Did you really got converted? Were you a Christain and believe in Jesus in the first place? At 'best' it just proves that your faith in God was not strong enough. If traveling widely can let one discovered the 'Truth about God, or of God' than full-time tourists (that I believe can only belong to few privilege rich people) should come out and share more. Perhaps they are still busy traveling, busy taking photos, busy tasting the food of other cultures and busy discovering (hopefully about who God is).

Another big error in the argument is that the Bible was written by the scribes and created another religion. Just the opposite, the scribe opposed the teachings of Jesus and together with Pharisees they were trying to destroy and question the authority of Jesus! In fact, Jesus came to destroy the 'religion of the pharisee and the scribes' whose religion was the religion of hypocricy. Jesus called these pharisees and scribes hypocirtes many, many times and He scolded them in front of people. That why I say, Jesus came not to establish another religion. Quite the opposite, He came to destroy the religion of the scribes and the pharisees and to establish our relationship with God.

God bless.

Psalm23
 
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that is because religion can only appeal to people with little or no educational background or training in critical thinking. they are struggling on a regular basis to find food, shelter and safety. they wont ask for evidences, proofs, most are very gullible. that is why religions can only "market" down but not up. studies have shown that organized religions will disappear in 9 major western countries.. alot of church buildings in australia are being sold off due to falling number of members.

if you argue that religious people are more gracious, then i beg to differ. bill gates, warren buffet and other billionaires are giving away their massive wealth to help the 3rd world countries. doctors without borders, unicef, unesco are some of the major organisations that contribute and help the poor with no expectation of religious conversion, even the red cross knows that. we all know what religious missions want to achieve, right? yes, faith conversion...

chinese characters?! bah humbug...! this remind me of those chaps that saw the picture of jesus or mary in their coffee, toast or table cloth's stain!

sorry, but my iq wont allow me to succumb to such cheap trickery.. i went to chromosome #2, read up on abiogenesis, theory of everything and the whole motherload... chinese character? ha.. i saw those cheap justifications before in my ex-church.. just like that chinese word of "lai2" (come) where is a cross in the middle and two "ren2" at the sides. pleeeeeease.

if you have so much faith, then why seek medical attention? why use the medicine that science has provided? it was proven that ades mosquitoes killed half of the world's population, can god allow that?

can god massacred/drowned the whole world just for 8 people?

by the way, hitler had written in his journals; mein krumpf, that he exalted the aryans race and denounce homos, blacks and jews. and the vatican was in cohort with him!




tell that to Dr Fidelma rose or Dr Lawrence Brown Or Dr Jerald Dirks Or Dr Tejasen Tejasen .Market down wuahahah
 
that is the problem! your whole reality, belief and vision are hinged on a SINGLE book that was written by some unknown scribes aka goat herders 2000-5000 years ago!..... QUOTE]

The problem is that Bible is NOT A SINGLE book. This book was written by 40 authors of diversed backgrounds - famers, kings, queen, fishermen, doctor, priets, scholars, those without formal education, etc. There are 66 books in the Bible and hence it cannot be called a SINGLE BOOK. Bible is a collection of 66 books. Though there are 66 books, but there is only ONE THEME: God created man as the most wonderful being and due to man's disobedience, man became corrupt, sinful, helpless and hopeless and God is now restoring man to the original state. How this is to be done was prophesised in the Old Testament and fullfilled in the New Testament. Of course many Bible critics will just pull out verses here and there and said some of the stories and teachings are inconsistent. But remember, different authors with different background will describe differently what they saw, read or heard even though event may be the same. A case in point, if you go and read the newspapers of New Yrok Times, Straits Times or Asian Wall Street, you will find their stories do vary because the reporters and journalists have different backgrounds, different writing style, so obviously you can find differences but the facts can be the same. For example, if you go a read about our Presidential Election, every newsaper will tell you the Dr. Tony Tan has been elected as President for the Republic of Singapore. No newspaper will say otherwise. But if you read the details about how the election took place, the sentiment of the voters, you can find the stories vary greatly.

The most wonderful part of the Bible is that the consistencey of the THEME had not be challenged because it cannot be challenged. Even the most die-hand atheists and agnostics (perhaps except you, Drifter and couple of others) can agree to this. Great scholars who spent their lives studying the Bible never disputed consistency of the Bible THEME even some have disagreed that God really exists. At best they could argue is that the stories there is a conspiracy theory which means that the Old Testament was written after the New Testament just to give creditability to the OT prophecies. But the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls has quieted critics on this because it has been scientifically verified that the Dead Sea Scrolls were written about 1,000 years before the Brith of Christ! So, the conspiracy theory is now thrown into the drain and of course they are now trying to find new theory to dispute the authority of the Bible. That's why they are known as die-hard atheists and agnostics. And I must admit I am a die-hard believers because I believe am a sinner and I can only be saved by Jesus. His sacrificial death on the cross has paid may wages - the wages of death. We need to worship Him day and night and to acknowledge His grace and mercy. Remember the Chinese word "Temple" - Temple with the Cros of Jesus is no temple. Let me challenge you to do more research on some Chinese characters and you will discover that many Bible stores both of the OT and the NT are encoded in the characters. Just go to google and search for "Chinese character, Bible" I believe you can find good reading, May who know, you may be backslided and by readong some of these, God may slide you back!

By the way, after being a ''Christian' for over 20 years and you now turn against the God of the Bible still cannot prove that God doesn't exist. The more appropriate question is: Did you really got converted? Were you a Christain and believe in Jesus in the first place? At 'best' it just proves that your faith in God was not strong enough. If traveling widely can let one discovered the 'Truth about God, or of God' than full-time tourists (that I believe can only belong to few privilege rich people) should come out and share more. Perhaps they are still busy traveling, busy taking photos, busy tasting the food of other cultures and busy discovering (hopefully about who God is).

Another big error in the argument is that the Bible was written by the scribes and created another religion. Just the opposite, the scribe opposed the teachings of Jesus and together with Pharisees they were trying to destroy and question the authority of Jesus! In fact, Jesus came to destroy the 'religion of the pharisee and the scribes' whose religion was the religion of hypocricy. Jesus called these pharisees and scribes hypocirtes many, many times and He scolded them in front of people. That why I say, Jesus came not to establish another religion. Quite the opposite, He came to destroy the religion of the scribes and the pharisees and to establish our relationship with God.

God bless.

Psalm23



40 different authors , 66 books in the Bible , so what ? monkey see monkey do ...theres so many delusion christains in the world ...theres already a few in this forum including you ..;) and you guys have only ONE THEME that is blind faith ...

" The most wonderful part of the Bible is that the consistencey of the THEME had not be challenged because it cannot be challenged " ..whahahaha that is the funniest joke i heard today ....i bet you just start using internet yesterday ;)

" By the way, after being a ''Christian' for over 20 years and you now turn against the God of the Bible still cannot prove that God doesn't exist. The more appropriate question is: Did you really got converted? Were you a Christain and believe in Jesus in the first place? At 'best' it just proves that your faith in God was not strong enough " . yes some people are not as delusional as you ...for your case you need some medication ;)
 
contradicting bible


1 ) War or Peace?
EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

2 ) God good to all, or just a few?
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

3) Who is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

4) Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

5) Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

6) Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

7) How many stalls and horsemen?
1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

8) Is it folly to be wise or not?
PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1CO 1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."

9) Human vs. ghostly impregnation
ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

10 ) The sins of the father
ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

11) Rabbits do not chew their cud
LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.

12) Snails do not melt
PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

13) Fowl from waters or ground?
GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

14) Odd genetics
GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

15) The shape of the earth
ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.

16) Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
GEN 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

17) Earth supported?
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Heaven supported too
JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

18) The hydrological cycle
ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.

JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,

Storehouses are not part of the cycle

19) Order of creation
Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:

Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
Day 3: Plants
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

Note that there are "days," "evenings," and "mornings" before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as "Elohim," which is a plural, thus the literal translation, "the Gods." In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that "it was good."

The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:

Earth and heavens (misty)
Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
Plants
Animals
Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib)

20) How orderly were things created?
#1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three "days."
#2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

21 ) How satisfied with creation was he?
#1: God says "it was good" after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
#2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

22) Moses' personality
NUM 12:3: "Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the fact of the earth."

NUM 31:14, 17, 18: "And Moses was wroth...And Moses said unto them, "Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, ... But all the women children ... keep alive for yourselves."

23) Righteous live?
PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."

24 ) ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."

MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."

25) Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

26) Jesus' last words
MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

27 ) Years of famine
II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

28 ) Moved David to anger?
II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

29 ) The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

30 ) God be seen?
EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)

31 ) CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
"I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."

"The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
"God is love." (1JO 4:16)

32 ) Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

33 ) Judas died how?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (MAT 27:5)

"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)

34 ) Ascend to heaven
"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)

"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

35 ) What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
Before the cock crow - MAT 26:34

Before the cock crow twice - MAR 14:30

36 ) How many times did the cock crow?
MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.

MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.

JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.

37 ) How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
MAT 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
MAT 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
MAT 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
MAT 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
MAT 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
MAT 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
MAT 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
MAT 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

LUK 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
LUK 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
LUK 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
LUK 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

38 ) Does every man sin?
1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;

2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

39 ) Who bought potter's field
ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

40 ) Who prophesied the potter's field?
MAT 27:9-10 (mentions Jeremy but no such verse in Jeremiah) is in Zechariah 11:12-13

41 ) Who bears guilt?
GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

42 ) Do you answer a fool?
PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

43 ) How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

44) How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

45 ) Marriage?
Proverbs 18:22
1 Corinthians 7 (whole book. See 1,2,27,39,40)

46 ) Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

47 ) Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.

JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

(various traipsings)

48 ) How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)

MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

49 ) Judging
1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

50 ) Good deeds
Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

51) For or against?
MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

52 ) Whom did they see at the tomb?
MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.

LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

53 ) God change?
MAL 3:6
JAS 1:17
1SA 15:29
JON 3:10
GEN 6:6

54 ) Destruction of cities (what said was jeremiah was zechariah)
MAT 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

ZEC 11:11-13 (Note: There is nothing in Jeremiah remotely like this.)

55 ) Who's sepulchers
ACT 7:16
GEN 23:17,18

56 ) Strong drink?
PRO 31:6,7
JOH 2:11-11

57 ) When second coming?
MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

(See also 1TH 4:15-18)

58 ) Solomon's overseers
1KI 9:23 550
2CH 8:10 250

59 ) The mother of Abijah:
2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom

2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel

60 ) When did Baasha die?
1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa

2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

61 ) How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
2KI 8:26 22

2CH 22:2 42

62 ) What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
MAT 27:28 scarlet

JOH 19:2 purple

63 ) What did they give him to drink?
MAT 27:34 vinegar

MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh

64 ) How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," and MAR 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again." As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days," but the post-Resurrection narratives have "on the third day."
 
yes FB, i i know that you have many unanswered ( satisfactorily ) questions. You are not alone. Even Christians have many unanswered questions. Its also true in my case. Sometimes i feel the more i read the less i know but i have elected to stay on this path.
I know that not all of my questions will be answered in this lifetime and that some of my prayers will not be granted but to be fair, these are the less essential ones.
I can understand your need to triangulate to get a good fix on your spiritual position. Without being rude or anything like that i pray that your efforts will lead you back to Him.
I am happy to read your posts and chat. It is i who should thank you for posting and participating.



i beg to differ. MANY pastors and religious leaders feared these type of questions for they will make them loose faces as they have no groundings to do scientific apologetic works. I had tested them before and met with highly unfavourable remarks.

as to the quote of jesus' towards certain events or ideology, it is equivalent to "my mother says this.. my mother says that..." there is no indepedent thought that goes into formulating the questions.

if you want questions, i have thousands of them.. but i cannot accept any replies that stipulate the reliance on the bible because that is one SINGLE, ancient source. even confucius's teachings are slowly irrelevant in the modern days of change.

i need 3-4 independent sources that can triangulate and pinpoint the answers. Even an answer like Theistic evolution will hold values in my sight if you mention that the extreme low probability of life formation on a planet that have balances of gravity, air combination and chemical presence that could help in the bridging from chemicals to organics, and that should be derived from a seas of scientific facts. or a hordes of monkeys smacking on typewriters could not even produce a decent DNA codes which form the first cell's nucleus. im not trying to sound like a smart alex, but this is my true form of my mind and i am pursuing this of finding the truth tirelessly with an unflinching passion. thanks for reading.
 
is belief in God automatic? or is it something you achieve once you've discovered it and examined and decided that you want it?

there seems to be a disturbing yet strangely common belief. it seems some people believe that everyone is born believing in god, in particular, the Christian God.

at first i thought i was mistaken until someone asked this bizarre question yet again "when did you stop believing in god and become an atheist?"

huh? did he mean to imply they was born believing in god and at some point decided to stop? i never recall believing in God. i mean it's a nice story but i've never thought of it as reality.

human beings are born believing in the almighty milky teat and the glory of body heat, beyond that everything else it taught to us or learned in the course of our lives. surely, we have some inborn instincts and desires such as hunger, thirst, and the need for comfort. as far as religious beliefs go i think it's tabula rasa - blank slate. there's no stamp on a baby's bottom proclaiming "product of heaven" or "made by god ". there's no pre-programmed belief in God that falls out of the womb with each baby.

maybe people believe this because they were fed Jesus with their baby cereal and strained peas? perhaps they were indoctrinated so young they have no memory of first exposure? they can't really be blamed for thinking they were born with the belief if it was instilled in them before the age of reason and before the dawn of memory.

it seems to me that a belief held simply because your parents told you it was so does not represent an exercise of free will. it is not a choice if you've never known anything else.

i don't think i heard, or more accurately, paid attention to the word "god" until i was four and required an clarification of something I'd read in a book. after listening to my Mom's explanation, i recall asking her, "they don't really think that, right? it's just make-believe like story books, isn't it?" she diplomatically told me that some people thought god was real and some people didn't. she was allowing me to develop my own beliefs without imprinting hers on my psyche before i was capable of such a judgment.

why do people feel the need to mix up god in babies' formula instead of waiting to teach them about it when they are old enough to remember? more importantly why not wait until children are mentally developed enough to examine a belief?

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is belief in God automatic? or is it something you achieve once you've discovered it and examined and decided that you want it?

there seems to be a disturbing yet strangely common belief. it seems some people believe that everyone is born believing in god, in particular, the Christian God. at first i thought i was mistaken until someone asked this bizarre question yet again "when did you stop believing in god and become an atheist?"

huh? did he mean to imply they was born believing in god and at some point decided to stop? i never recall believing in God. i mean it's a nice story but i've never thought of it as reality.

human beings are born believing in the almighty milky teat and the glory of body heat, beyond that everything else it taught to us or learned in the course of our lives. surely, we have some inborn instincts and desires such as hunger, thirst, and the need for comfort. as far as religious beliefs go i think it's tabula rasa - blank slate. there's no stamp on a baby's bottom proclaiming "product of heaven" or "made by god ". there's no pre-programmed belief in God that falls out of the womb with each baby.

maybe people believe this because they were fed Jesus with their baby cereal and strained peas? perhaps they were indoctrinated so young they have no memory of first exposure? they can't really be blamed for thinking they were born with the belief if it was instilled in them before the age of reason and before the dawn of memory.

it seems to me that a belief held simply because your parents told you it was so does not represent an exercise of free will. it is not a choice if you've never known anything else.

i don't think i heard, or more accurately, paid attention to the word "god" until i was four and required an clarification of something I'd read in a book. after listening to my Mom's explanation, i recall asking her, "they don't really think that, right? it's just make-believe like story books, isn't it?" she diplomatically told me that some people thought god was real and some people didn't. she was allowing me to develop my own beliefs without imprinting hers on my psyche before i was capable of such a judgment.

why do people feel the need to mix up god in babies' formula instead of waiting to teach them about it when they are old enough to remember? more importantly why not wait until children are mentally developed enough to examine a belief?


Again, you are partially right but mostly wrong!

Not that "IT SEEMS THAT EVERYONE BELIEVES IN GOD". The correct expression is that we are all born to believe in God but because of our sinful heart, instead of believing in God, we have turned against Him. Our struggles of trying to know Him or to reject Him will continue until the day our lives expired on earth, but prayerfully before this happened, we can come to God. Whether we like it or not, we are all born with a heart's desire of knowing our True Creator and that is God Himself.

Another error of yours is that you believe Christian God seems to be believed by 'everyone'. Quite to the contrary, those who truly believe in the God of the Bible, Jesus, the Son of God who was born of human flesh to redeem man's sin are very few in number because (like all good treasure), it is not easy to find the real one. There are many fake god and people have chosen to believe in other gods rather than chose to believe in the God of the Bible.

One of the best testimonies and evidences that we can find that God's word is written in man's heart is in the Chinese character. There are dozens of Chinese characters depicting the stories of the Bible - both of the OT and the NT - even though the language of Chinese was invented before the Chinese were known to have read the religious text of the Old Testament and before Christianity was spread to China. How could this happened? By chance - yes - if there is only one, two, three words but if there are dozens, it cannot be due to chance. This is planted by God into the hearts of the Chinese who have invented the language. Together with the languages of Hebrew and Greek that were used to write the original Bible manuscripts, they are clear evidence that God exists and He has given us His message in the 66 Books and the Chinese language. Why should the Chinese character of the word "Temple" has 2 crosess? By chance? No. God's temple can only exist with the Cross of Jesus without which there is no temple! Which which they are simply known as auditorium, theatre, concert hall. And do remember - I mean for Chistians only - our body is the temple of God.

The Bible theme that man was created sinless but became sinful because of man's disobedience but God is loving, merciful and with His grace, is redeeming us to the orginal state. This can only be one with the blood of Jesus. From OT to NT, this theme is consistent and there is no contradiction because this is the most important theological truth. Many Bible critics though has disputed the existence of God but have not disputed that this theme contradicted one another between the Old and the New Testaments.

God bless.

Psalm23
 
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Hi Psalm ,
You have given lots to this forum and the only thing that you need to do is to address all the points that Drifter has made in terms of errors in the bible.
Thats all you ever need to do in order to convince me at least.According to Bart Ehrmann(former Evangelist now agnostic) there are more errors in the NT than there are words!!
So a logical and reasonable conclusion is that God is not the author of the bible.capiche?
thank you and may GOD ALmighty guide us all

Jesus Moses and all the prophets came to preach and teach the same thing .That GOD is ONE!
DO not deviate and worship His Messenger instead.
 
One of the best testimonies and evidences that we can find that God's word is written in man's heart is in the Chinese character. There are dozens of Chinese characters depicting the stories of the Bible - both of the OT and the NT - even though the language of Chinese was invented before the Chinese were known to have read the religious text of the Old Testament and before Christianity was spread to China. How could this happened? By chance - yes - if there is only one, two, three words but if there are dozens, it cannot be due to chance.
Psalm23

oh really? so the flood did happened? did god perform genoicide on the whole world for 8 people who then perform incest to reproduce to populate the earth? the amount of fresh water will kill everything in the sea. the ark is less than 300m and it floated for 1 year before landing, did they pack enough food for the 2 million creatures onboard that ark? how did the carnivores didnt get to eat the rest? and you think that the kangaroos did hoppy hop all the ways to australia and the kiwi birds run all the way to NZ to breed but never left a single trace in asia or africa? ridiculous!!

did 8 people of a single family managed to have so many genetic diversity that form the current caucasians, africans, asians, american indians and islanders. oh dont tell me, it is the towel of babel..... riiiiiiiight... and they managed to thread allll the way from mt ararat to south america and populate all the islands in the pacific without the invention of floatation device.

oh yes another thing, the flood occur somewhere 5000 years ago,... but the pyramids were built 4000+ years ago.. where did the pharoahs get all the slave? if you bang for alien, i will go with it.

so chinese character again eh? i dont want to do this but u leave me with no choice. did u see jesus in the following pic?
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is this evidence?
 

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chinese characters???/ gosh seems like all man got beard is my father then....
 
oh really? so the flood did happened? did god perform genoicide on the whole world for 8 people who then perform incest to reproduce to populate the earth? the amount of fresh water will kill everything in the sea. the ark is less than 300m and it floated for 1 year before landing, did they pack enough food for the 2 million creatures onboard that ark? how did the carnivores didnt get to eat the rest? and you think that the kangaroos did hoppy hop all the ways to australia and the kiwi birds run all the way to NZ to breed but never left a single trace in asia or africa? ridiculous!!

did 8 people of a single family managed to have so many genetic diversity that form the current caucasians, africans, asians, american indians and islanders. oh dont tell me, it is the towel of babel..... riiiiiiiight... and they managed to thread allll the way from mt ararat to south america and populate all the islands in the pacific without the invention of floatation device.

oh yes another thing, the flood occur somewhere 5000 years ago,... but the pyramids were built 4000+ years ago.. where did the pharoahs get all the slave? if you bang for alien, i will go with it.

so chinese character again eh? i dont want to do this but u leave me with no choice. did u see jesus in the following pic?
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is this evidence?

whAHAHAH...jesus appear in a dog ass ? theres more then that ;)



jesus on a banana ;)
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jesus on a piece of indian nan :)


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jesus in a piece of kikat ;)

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when comes to imagination ...those delusional religious ppl ranked number 1 ;)


give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime, give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish ;)
 
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Again, you are partially right but mostly wrong!

Not that "IT SEEMS THAT EVERYONE BELIEVES IN GOD". The correct expression is that we are all born to believe in God but because of our sinful heart, instead of believing in God, we have turned against Him. Our struggles of trying to know Him or to reject Him will continue until the day our lives expired on earth, but prayerfully before this happened, we can come to God. Whether we like it or not, we are all born with a heart's desire of knowing our True Creator and that is God Himself.

Another error of yours is that you believe Christian God seems to be believed by 'everyone'. Quite to the contrary, those who truly believe in the God of the Bible, Jesus, the Son of God who was born of human flesh to redeem man's sin are very few in number because (like all good treasure), it is not easy to find the real one. There are many fake god and people have chosen to believe in other gods rather than chose to believe in the God of the Bible.

One of the best testimonies and evidences that we can find that God's word is written in man's heart is in the Chinese character. There are dozens of Chinese characters depicting the stories of the Bible - both of the OT and the NT - even though the language of Chinese was invented before the Chinese were known to have read the religious text of the Old Testament and before Christianity was spread to China. How could this happened? By chance - yes - if there is only one, two, three words but if there are dozens, it cannot be due to chance. This is planted by God into the hearts of the Chinese who have invented the language. Together with the languages of Hebrew and Greek that were used to write the original Bible manuscripts, they are clear evidence that God exists and He has given us His message in the 66 Books and the Chinese language. Why should the Chinese character of the word "Temple" has 2 crosess? By chance? No. God's temple can only exist with the Cross of Jesus without which there is no temple! Which which they are simply known as auditorium, theatre, concert hall. And do remember - I mean for Chistians only - our body is the temple of God.

The Bible theme that man was created sinless but became sinful because of man's disobedience but God is loving, merciful and with His grace, is redeeming us to the orginal state. This can only be one with the blood of Jesus. From OT to NT, this theme is consistent and there is no contradiction because this is the most important theological truth. Many Bible critics though has disputed the existence of God but have not disputed that this theme contradicted one another between the Old and the New Testaments.

God bless.

Psalm23


there once was a time when all people believed in God and the church ruled. that time was called the Dark Ages ;) .

" Whether we like it or not, we are all born with a heart's desire of knowing our True Creator and that is God Himself " . theres so many religions in the world ....why do you think its your god that is the true creator ? ;) most cultures have provided a deity to worship. there are now over 120 differing denominations. when we learn the differences they tend to be minor, yet denominations fight for their own interpretations to be accepted. many christian religions send their members to try to convert people to their way of thinking ...you are one of them ;)




ps: he that will not reason is a bigot, he that cannot reason is a fool , he that dares not reason is a slave ;) using common sense i've concluded that religion began to explain the unexplained, and evolved into a means by which rulers could ensure the well being of their country. ensuring eternal life for obeying rules that the King or absolute divine right monarch fancied.
 
chinese characters???/ gosh seems like all man got beard is my father then....


whahahaha...clap clap ..to have an invisible friend at the age of eight is charming and not a cause for concern. to have an invisible friend in adulthood is however a cause for concern and could be considered psychotic. so how exactly does giving them the name of a deity change that opinion? ;)
 
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chinese characters???/ gosh seems like all man got beard is my father then....

Really, cannot connect what you trying to say???!!!. Chinese characters I am referring to are the words in the Chinese words, many of them depicted the stories from the Bible. Good examples are Chinese words of Temple, Boat, Righteousness, Good, Devil.

God bless.

Psalm23
 
Really, cannot connect what you trying to say???!!!. Chinese characters I am referring to are the words in the Chinese words, many of them depicted the stories from the Bible. Good examples are Chinese words of Temple, Boat, Righteousness, Good, Devil.

God bless.

Psalm23


you know theres how many chinese character in chinese word ? for your information there are 6500 simplified chinese characters ...and you only mention 4 characters ;) that depicted from your story book ....that shows how small your brain is ;)
 
Really, cannot connect what you trying to say???!!!. Chinese characters I am referring to are the words in the Chinese words, many of them depicted the stories from the Bible. Good examples are Chinese words of Temple, Boat, Righteousness, Good, Devil.

God bless.

Psalm23


you know theres how many chinese character in chinese word ? for your information there are 6500 simplified chinese characters ...and you only mention 4 characters ;) that depicted from your story book ....that shows how small your brain is ;)[/QUOTE] .

of course you dont know what wrcboi is talking about because of your small brain ;)
 
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