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The Unravelling of RP's Scholar Couple

scroobal

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Those are clear issues of probity. If they find those things then they will be in trouble. I am sure when TT joined WP, they already started checking his T&E vouchers. It will be interesting what they find.

Chee Soon Juan was decimated because (1) he used official stamps to send her wife's thesis overseas; (2) his taxi claims were inconsistent.

I think it's not hard to find little slip-ups like these and blow them up to gigantic proportions. Believe you me, Sinkaporeans will suck it all in.
 

Charlie9

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Here's what it boils down to. Either Lau Goh or Old Man (it's never the Crown Prince who does these things) will say: "I think the Reform Party should come clean about why the scholar couple left their government jobs".

That alone is enough (for a start).

I agree with you. The two older gentlemen may resort to that strategy to try to avoid losing several seats.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Has the unravelling already begun??

It seems a lot of attention focussed on this scholar couple recently. ST letter today (Saturday):

http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/STIStory_484046.html

Ex-scholarship holder in opposition? No big deal

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I REFER to the report on a former government scholarship holder joining an opposition party ('Ex-Admin Service officer joins Reform', Jan 20).

While some have hailed this as a significant plus for the opposition, I view it as a non-event.

First, many talented graduates have joined the ranks of the opposition in recent years, but many of them have opted to keep out of the spotlight, preferring to build a credible profile first. For example, Workers' Party secretary-general and Member of Parliament for Hougang, Mr Low Thia Khiang, mentioned recently that his party has been recruiting new members, many of whom are probably academically well qualified.

Second, I agree with Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's assessment that we should not judge political candidates based on their paper credentials, but on what they can do for society. Using Mr Lee's yardstick, I judge many opposition candidates favourably as they provide an alternative voice for the people, regardless of their qualifications. In fact, good grades are irrelevant to being a good politician, as the work of serving the community requires the heart more than the head.

It is time we look past superficial measures of success like academic credentials, and pay more attention to an individual's track record at work and in community service, which are more accurate indicators of his calibre.

Ng E-Jay
 

scroobal

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This is what you call a motherhood comment. No different to parents asking their kids to brush their teeth.

Maybe the writer should have qualified himself by saying that he was previously with Reform Party and was asked to resign over the Temasek Review Incident.

Anyway it was the PAP that harped on academic qualification so why the need to use PM to justify the comment. Thats like asking the local chapter of paedophilia associates to support tough laws on sex crimes.


Has the unravelling already begun??

I REFER to the report on a former government scholarship holder joining an opposition party ('Ex-Admin Service officer joins Reform', Jan 20).

While some have hailed this as a significant plus for the opposition, I view it as a non-event.

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kingrant

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Ng E Jay has shot himself in the foot, and the TP brothel was only too glad to oblige him with a clearly misleading and belittling headline.

What Ng shld have done was to emphasise that candidates shld be judged firstly on their integrity, character and willingness to serve the common man, and less importantly on non-academic quality traits. And then having pitched it correctly, go on to say that despite the PAP always saying that the Opp could not attract talented people and scholars, they have since then recruited blah blah blah...

That way, the message would not be "no big deal" when it actually is.
 

scroobal

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By the way he is "Kaixin", one of the main stars of the "Thread that srewed us all" debacle.


Ng E Jay has shot himself in the foot, and the TP brothel was only too glad to oblige him with a clearly misleading and belittling headline.

What Ng shld have done was to emphasise that candidates shld be judged firstly on their integrity, character and willingness to serve the common man, and less importantly on non-academic quality traits. And then having pitched it correctly, go on to say that despite the PAP always saying that the Opp could not attract talented people and scholars, they have since then recruited blah blah blah...

That way, the message would not be "no big deal" when it actually is.
 

Ramseth

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Yeah, think E-Jay misphrased his words, especially the "non-event". ST would gleefully jump upon such things.
 

QXD

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I think the writer is suffering a bit of "me too-ism" for being left out...
 

funnyz

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Maybe the writer should have qualified himself by saying that he was previously with Reform Party and was asked to resign over the Temasek Review Incident.

Care to elaborate more on this matter? As in the part where he was asked to resign over the Temasek Review Incident?

I might be wrong, but this fellow seems like speaking with a fork tongue and a touch of sour grapes to me. I understand he was part of the TBT 18 and also one of the first few to plead guilty with another Ex-PAP/WP member.
 

Perspective

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I wouldn't judge given the ST's record in handling its letters until Ng E Jay puts out the unedited version.

But based on what has been produced, he has missed out a point. Just being alternative voices alone can't fully measure a MP's abilities. PP and Hougang has reasonable ward management overall, so it has improved the lives of the people, just like how a government (PAP or not) improves the lives of its citizens. Put someone like Davinder Singh in a single ward, a TC and without PAP resources, I assure he'll be so daunted and hardly appear in his ward 365 x 5 and wait to lose.
 

scroobal

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What do you think E-jay actually wrote
- delighted that 2 good candidates have joined the opposition?
- other good candidates have joined WP
- Both of the above
- PM is right about the type of candidates
- all of the above.
- anything else from the way he wrote.

I wouldn't judge given the ST's record in handling its letters until Ng E Jay puts out the unedited version.
 

Summerbee

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This description applies to a large numbers of scholars that I know of, I don't see how that helps PAP.

Husband: Ineffectual in army, many foul ups, insubordination, overly-ambitious

Wife: Bad management skill, poor interpersonal skills, impatient, control-freak, not a team player, aloof

All the above evidence provided by ex-colleagues, ex-subordinates and perhaps one or two standing MPs. You heard this here first. Mark my words.
 

scroobal

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SDP does have an issue with quality of candidates and so do many others. Even the PAP has factional candidates that are useless. Not sure if he wanted to impress his associates or grab a headline like Lionel de Souza. What was surprising was the PM association bit. Maybe he is looking for a role in a govt advisory where they tend to look for self claimed activist to paint a balance picture.

As to the background - after his fling with SDP, he joined RP as a member. At that time, he was associated with Temasek Review then known as Wayangparty and he was vouching for them. When RP wanted to know his link with Temasek Review, he claimed that he did not know or had met with Temasek Review chap and had only dealth with him via email. He thus resigned with a cloud over his head and went back to his friends in SDP. Not the sharpest tool in the shed. Temasek Review cannot reveal his identity as he made a series of false allegations and well known for a history of plagiarised articles.



Care to elaborate more on this matter? As in the part where he was asked to resign over the Temasek Review Incident?

I might be wrong, but this fellow seems like speaking with a fork tongue and a touch of sour grapes to me. I understand he was part of the TBT 18 and also one of the first few to plead guilty with another Ex-PAP/WP member.
 

sinren67

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I recalled the incident of "i vote for Teo Ho Pin" by YSL. Both do not have the bad intention, but merely want to position themselves as mature politicians - and got fired from all corners.

They deserved it.
 

Ramseth

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I recalled the incident of "i vote for Teo Ho Pin" by YSL. Both do not have the bad intention, but merely want to position themselves as mature politicians - and got fired from all corners.

They deserved it.

THP wasn't fired upon from all corners for that. He just relaxed one corner and tried to control his laughing from being too loud.

He was later in the line of fire for another matter, town council losses in minibonds.
 

sinren67

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He was later in the line of fire for another matter, town council losses in minibonds.

And becos of the lost from minibonds, PAP's town councils cut down the routine maintenance which resulted their rubbish piled up to 2-storey high and got fired from all corners, again. :biggrin:
 
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