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Chitchat The stationary flat Earth

Do you think the Earth is flat and stationary?

  • Yes, especially after seeing so much evidence!

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Wangfeng said:
Your relentless effort to project an innocent character with a amicable personality taking shape. :rolleyes:

clap clap clap :rolleyes:
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You are rogue trader - moderator wannabe rejected by leongsam - of course you are also Joanne with China knowledge.
 
interesting words to know :

ego - a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance.
obstinate - stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion
dumb - lacking intelligence or good judgment; stupid; dull-witted.
 
Many people think they are smart to insult others and get away scot-free. But these smart people always from third world countries as they live in their barbarian world and celebrate barbarian ways and their countries will forever remain in third world spending their energy and rejoicing in bullying others who did no harm to them.
 
Thick Face Black Heart said:
Japan to boost South China Sea role with training patrols with USNEWSTVPREMIERSIGN INMenuASIA PACIFICJapan to boost South China Sea role with training patrols with USJapan says it will step up its activity in the contested South China Sea through joint training patrols with the United States.*Posted*16 Sep 2016 10:24Updated*16 Sep 2016 10:30ENLARGECAPTION*135****Email*MoreWASHINGTON: Japan will step up its activity in the contested South China Sea through joint training patrols with the United States and bilateral and multilateral exercises with regional navies, Japanese Defence Minister Tomomi Inada said on Thursday (Sep 15).Inada said in a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank, that Japan's increased engagement in the area, where Japan shares U.S. concerns about China's pursuit of extensive territorial claims, would include capacity building for coastal nations.Japan also has its own dispute with China over territory in the East China Sea. 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Japan said this month it was ready to provide Vietnam with new patrol ships, in its latest step to boost the maritime law-enforcement capabilities of countries locked in territorial rows with China.It also agreed to provide two large patrol ships and lend up to five used surveillance aircraft to the Philippines, another country at odds with China over sovereignty issues in the South China Sea.In response to Inada's comments, the US Navy said in a statement: "The United States welcomes Japan's interest in expanding its maritime activities in the South China Sea. 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Hmmm Yes, i think so too.
 
greedy and cunning said:
interesting words to know :

ego - a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance.
obstinate - stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion
dumb - lacking intelligence or good judgment; stupid; dull-witted.
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Interesting to know people who always talk about ego are the ones who stepped on others' ego with deceit. And these people think they are smart but actually just a piece of useless shit which can walk sideways like mudlander crabs.
 
kongkia said : So many CHC gong kias queuing outside high court! Brainwashed and delusional!

even u post more logical cases to support the flat earth concept
there are bound to be CHC gongkias who simply refused to change their mind set on a round earth.
 
greedy and cunning said:
kongkia said : So many CHC gong kias queuing outside high court! Brainwashed and delusional!

even u post more logical cases to support the flat earth concept
there are bound to be CHC gongkias who simply refused to change their mind set on a round earth.
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The majority of people are sensible. What you see is just a tiny fraction of brainwashed and delusional gongkias. They see CHC and its leaders as logical, as just a brainwashed tiny fraction of world's population who sees the flat earth argument as logical, and you are one of these brainwashed and delusional gongkias.
 
zeebjii said:
The majority of people are sensible. What you see is just a tiny fraction of brainwashed and delusional gongkias. They see CHC and its leaders as logical, as just a brainwashed tiny fraction of world's population who sees the flat earth argument as logical, and you are one of these brainwashed and delusional gongkias.
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Yeah real idiots who refused to believe satellites exist when they have been in existence for more than half century. No wonder some of these idiots behave like stone age barbarians.
 
ginfreely said:
Yeah real idiots who refused to believe satellites exist when they have been in existence for more than half century. No wonder some of these idiots behave like stone age barbarians.
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i hoped u are joking.

because that is the stupidest statement made here.

existence of satellites is proof that earth is round like a ball ?

dont think too highly of yourself.
u had been making stupid statements , no rebuttal does not mean you are correct.
it it just waste of time to reply.

your lack of common sense is revealed by you accepting whatever mainstream dished out to you ,
at least in this case of a round earth circling the sun.
you don't question the possibility that it could be false.
despite the fact that other have provided logical explanations.

NASA said the earth is spinning at very very great speed on a titled axis
it is rotating around the sun a very very great speed too
and people living in australia don't fall off because of gravity.
maybe you are unable to comprehend the sheer tremendous force of earth rotating and spinning speed
and the immense amount of centrifugal force generated by its spinning.
to help you out , compare force generated by a jet plane or rocket.
nothing comes close to that of the earth speed.
why can't the earth be stationally ?
why can't the earth be flat , circular , or square or dome shape?
why can't the earth be anything other than a sphere circulating the sun and spinning ?

the people who told you the earth is circulating the sun also said that Earth is flattened at the poles and bulges at the equator,
geodesy represents the shape of the earth with an oblate spheroid.
take a look at all those NASA photos of the earth , any one showing an oblate spheroid ??
 
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Hands on: Lutron wireless light switches and sensors September 14th, 2016 | by Alfred Siew A Lutron wireless switch replaces a regular switch on the wall to make the lights "smart" in a room. PHOTO: Alfred Siew A Lutron wireless switch replaces a regular switch on the wall to make the lights “smart” in a room. PHOTO: Alfred Siew You’ve probably walked into a conference room where the lights automatically turned on. Sensing your presence, they came on only when needed. Not many people know it, but that cool trick can be had at home as well. I recently tried out a wireless light control kit from Lutron and have been happily enjoying this little “smart” sensor technology at home. What I got installed was a wireless sensor, a switch and a remote controller. Made by switch maker Lutron, they come in a package or as individual components for self-installation. Together, they let me activate my study room lights automatically when I step in. And when I step out, the lights will go off after a few minutes, as preset into the sensor. Besides convenience, I got to save on power bills. Now, I didn’t try this long enough to see the exact savings but it’s not hard to understand the concept – each minute that the lights are turned off, say, when I walk out for a coffee break, is money saved. Interestingly, the Lutron kit works a bit differently from other smart home kits that you can install yourself. Instead of hooking up a sensor to a lamp and making it “smart”, the company relies on the smarts in its switches instead. It’s a more traditional approach that has one advantage – it works with most existing lights. Whether you’re using a regular fluorescent light, as I am, or dimmable halogen bulbs, the Lutron kit will do its job. Okay, I didn’t exactly install the switches, since I’ve zero experience with electrical setups. However, the installers from Lutron who turned up at my place showed me how easy it was (here’s a tutorial from Lutron). A Lutron activity sensor can be set to automatically switch on or off the lights in a room. PHOTO: Alfred Siew A Lutron activity sensor can be set to automatically switch on or off the lights in a room. PHOTO: Alfred Siew You first replace your wall switch with the wireless version from Lutron. This will connect to your lights as a normal switch would, but with the added connectivity to other Lutron devices. One of these can be an activity or movement sensor. In my case, this was a circular sensor that I could easily paste – using mounting tape – on the ceiling. Once there, it reliably detected movement or a lack of it and controlled the lights depending on the situation. At the back of the sensor, you can set how long the lights should stay on (five, 15 or 30 minutes). You can also set the sensitivity, based on how much energy you want to save and how often you’d be in the room. One catch is that you should set this before mounting the sensor on the ceiling. You don’t want to climb up with a ladder to do that all the time. A Lutron activity sensor can be set to automatically switch on or off the lights in a room. PHOTO: Alfred Siew A Lutron activity sensor can be set to automatically switch on or off the lights in a room. PHOTO: Alfred Siew The wireless switch, of course, is a gateway to a number of things. Another gadget I managed to link to it was a remote switch. Connecting wirelessly, I can use this remote switch right on my table to switch on or off the room lights – or series of lights at home – whenever I want. Is that an unnecessary luxury? Well, I can imagine it coming in handy if you have a home theatre room, or simply for your living room. When you want to get the lights off quickly before you fire up a movie for the evening, that’s one cool way to do so without even leaving your couch. The remote switch also works for multiple rooms, as long as they are linked. By using a lower radio frequency (868MHz) than some Bluetooth or Wi-Fi-based home automation products running on 2.4GHz, Lutron says its wireless signals can penetrate walls better. I tried this out and it works as advertised. Bringing my remote switch to the living room, which is blocked by a few thick walls that usually kills most of my Wi-Fi signals, I could still remotely turn off the lights in my study room. Lutron remote switch with a pedestal. PHOTO: Alfred Siew Lutron remote switch with a pedestal. PHOTO: Alfred Siew The biggest downside, I’d say, is the cost. The Radio Powr Savr Automatic Wireless Light Control Package that includes the wall switch and sensor costs S$379 at Lazada Singapore, not including installation. Adding a remote switch will set you back another S$69. Separately, a pedestal costs S$29. Or you can buy them both as a package for S$89. So, if you were to wire up three bedrooms and a living room cum dining room, that could take four to five wall switches and roughly as many sensors, bringing the cost to more than S$1,000 easily. Is that worth it? I’d say no before I had tried the system out. But I’ve gotten the hang of not having to switch on or off the lights in my room and it’d be a little hard to go back to the old switch. If you’re renovating your place or are switching out old, broken switches, the Lutron switches and sensors are a cool way of getting home automation set up. I guess in that way, the costs of the switches would be just a small fraction of what you’re already spending on all the works.
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Cost is always the main consideration. If savings can be quantified reliably, that would be quite a compelling argument.
 
Earth may not be exactly round like a ball but it is a sphere. The fact that satellites don't drop from the sky proves that the earth is a sphere with a curve. I am not going to repeat, you can read my past posts on it. You obviously didn't read and just dismissed my statement as the most stupid without even reading. Btw who said satellites have anything to do with mainstream propaganda? there are already at least two in this thread who said they worked in satellite industry and guess what? Me too although that was decades ago. So what propaganda you talking about? Satellites have been in existence since decades ago is a fact. Only idiots like you are in denial of satellites and live in your stone age theory of flat earth.

greedy and cunning said:
i hoped u are joking.

because that is the stupidest statement made here.

existence of satellites is proof that earth is round like a ball ?

dont think too highly of yourself.
u had been making stupid statements , no rebuttal does not mean you are correct.
it it just waste of time to reply.

your lack of common sense is revealed by you accepting whatever mainstream dished out to you ,
at least in this case of a round earth circling the sun.
you don't question the possibility that it could be false.
despite the fact that other have provided logical explanations.

NASA said the earth is spinning at very very great speed on a titled axis
it is rotating around the sun a very very great speed too
and people living in australia don't fall off because of gravity.
maybe you are unable to comprehend the sheer tremendous force of earth rotating and spinning speed
and the immense amount of centrifugal force generated by its spinning.
to help you out , compare force generated by a jet plane or rocket.
nothing comes close to that of the earth speed.
why can't the earth be stationally ?
why can't the earth be flat , circular , or square or dome shape?
why can't the earth be anything other than a sphere circulating the sun and spinning ?

the people who told you the earth is circulating the sun also said that Earth is flattened at the poles and bulges at the equator,
geodesy represents the shape of the earth with an oblate spheroid.
take a look at all those NASA photos of the earth , any one showing an oblate spheroid ??
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[h=2]Gold Market Update[/h]originally published September 5th, 2016 in the Various Reports Sector
Click here for a printable version of this article. Many people are aware that the world is going to Hell, and are feeling very uneasy because they can’t see through the smog of propaganda to precisely why this is happening – after all, with progress and technological advances, life is supposed to get better for more people, right?
There are two big reasons that things are going off the rails. One is the abandonment of honest money with the world being set on the road to ruin when Nixon finally finished off the gold standard in 1971. This would not have mattered much if the dollar was one local currency, but it’s not, it’s the global reserve currency, and the financial mess and mayhem that you see all around you today is the direct and inevitable result of this, with runaway debts, astronomic derivative positions, and interest rates clamped at zero in a desperate attempt to delay it all unraveling. Those of you who are familiar with catastrophe theory will readily understand that the global economy is perched on a bifurcation cusp, between a deflationary implosion on one side, which will happen if they lose control of interest rates, and a slide into a hyperinflationary firestorm on the other. Once pushed off the cusp it’s one or other, there is no other alternative, and the latter looks the more likely outcome at this juncture because it will take longer than the former.
The other big reason that the world is going is going off the rails is that the Military - Industrial complex has seized control of the United States, and is its effective government, foreseen as a grave danger way back in 1961 by Dwight D Eisenhower. In its relentless drive for ever more power and profit it is bleeding the blood and treasure of the citizens of the United States and beyond its shores the entire world, thanks to the dollar being the global reserve currency, and has promulgated a series of wars around the world and especially in the Mid-East and North Africa, in order to justify its ever increasing budget, and in pursuit of the Neocon’s dream of world domination. Right now, with the connivance of the weak and corrupt European powers, it is working on fomenting conflict between Europe and Russia, which is why we have seen Europe impose sanctions on Russia, and in response to a relentless barrage of anti-Russian propaganda, countries in eastern Europe are buying military hardware from US arms manufacturers and stationing missile batteries along their borders with Russia, and staging provocative military exercises.
Europe has a rich tradition of destructive wars, and now that most of those involved in the last big one have died of old age, there are a lot of naïve younger leaders who seem to want to get another one started. Larry Edelson of Weiss Research has highlighted the time that the convergent war cycles reach their peak, which is 2019 – 2020, so if you live in Eastern Europe you’ve got about 3 years to get out maximum, and depending on how bad it gets, that might extend to all of Europe. The smart people in Germany, who saw the writing on the wall in the 1930’s, including Jews and some young Germans, got out while they had the chance. Many of those who didn’t ended up being killed, as we know. The writing is on the wall now, with Europe already being destabilized by hordes of refugees fleeing the devastation caused by the US Military - Industrial complex in the Mid-East and North Africa, some of whom are terrorists, and Europe is setting about provoking Russia with sanctions and militarily escalation on its eastern borders. The prudent decision of Britain to leave the European Union will also hasten Europe’s disintegration, and Europe’s economy is already on the rocks with mass unemployment and its banks failing, a perfect breeding ground for Right Wing extremism. With its complicity in smashing up the Mid-East, Europe has sown the wind, and it will surely reap the whirlwind, and the first breezes are already blowing with the arrival of millions of refugees. Their rate of reproduction is far greater than that of native Europeans, and it has already been calculated that some large countries in Europe will become Muslim by 2050. A day of reckoning is approaching for the US too, which faces eventual economic collapse, Martial Law and the emergence of a ruthless dictatorship that will no longer need to hide behind a façade of democracy.
If you think that what is written here is paranoid or far-fetched, then you have probably already sucked up too much propaganda. What is written here is factual, and a lot more reasonable than the demonization of Russia widespread in the mainstream media. As Hitler said “The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it”. Remember the old “weapons of mass destruction” yarn that was spun as a cover for the invasion of Iraq?
The reason for setting out the above is that you need to understand what is really going on if you are to comprehend what is driving the still fledgling bullmarket in gold and silver. The global financial system in on the verge of flying apart and this is synchronizing with the spread of war and chaos, although keep in mind that this is a process that will probably take several years to play out – it won’t happen next week. Even if the deflationary scenario prevails, instead of hyperinflation, it will not stop gold and silver rising in value, certainly in real terms, just as it didn’t in the deflation of the early 30’s when gold stocks soared. In the 1930’s, in an act of naked piracy, the US government, in violation of the Constitution, forcibly stole the gold belonging to its citizens, and there is of course nothing to stop them resorting to this ploy again, but you shouldn’t let this put you off owning physical metal. There are ways to circumvent government theft by storing gold in trusted overseas depositories that are out of their reach. The gold stolen by the government in the 30’s was stashed at Fort Knox, and the reason that it not been audited for many decades is probably that high ranking officials have helped themselves to it and cleaned the place out.
Turning now to gold itself, we see on its 9-month chart that a fine steady uptrend is unfolding with the advance punctuated by relatively modest and proportionate price / time corrections. There are signs that one such correction is completing now, and if so then we are again at a good time to buy, which is especially true with some gold and silver stocks that have corrected hard in recent weeks. While there is room for it to correct further, it won’t if the uptrend is accelerating, which is suggesting by the increasing rate of climb of the 200-day moving averages. Moving averages are in strongly bullish alignment.


On gold’s 10-year arithmetic chart we can see why it has stalled out in recent months – it has only risen by about $40 from its March high – it is at trendline resistance, although this line is not considered to have great significance as it is projected from two peaks way back in 2011 and 2012. There is some resistance above this line in the $1400 - $1430 zone, but much heavier resistance comes into play in the $1520 - $1560 area.


The gold optix, (optimism) readings have eased significantly from high levels that made further gains difficult. The current readings at about 50% make renewed advance much more possible.

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Chart courtesy of www.sentimentrader.com

COTs and Hedgers positions continue to run at a high level and be a cause for concern, although they have eased a little in recent weeks.

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Chart courtesy of www.sentimentrader.com

As for the dollar, there are some signs that the dollar index may be weakening towards the strong support at the bottom of the big trading range that has been building for 18 months, due partly to the latest jobs report damping down the possibility of a rate rise this month. What is remarkable about the big dollar rally of 2014 – 2015 is that it was achieved largely by talk alone, and so far there has been no blowback. If it does eventually break down from this range, it would clearly be a positive for gold and other commodities.


The year-to-date weekly chart for the HUI index shows that a potential reversal hammer appeared last week, and it looks like stocks have just hit bottom – and so many investors who missed the big uptrend from last January are waiting for a sizeable correction so that they can climb aboard, that it probably won’t happen, so it is considered prudent to go for better PM stocks now, accepting that there might be some further short-term downside. In many cases prices are much better than a month or two ago.


While GDX did break down from its channel that we had earlier delineated last week, this is not regarded as a serious development, because there is important support beneath this trendline, which has turned it up again, and also because the overall tenor of this chart is strongly bullish with steadily rising moving averages in bullish alignment, so it could be that the larger channel shown in green is now in play – if so we are at a good entry point here for stocks.


In the last update early in August we considered that investors were way too bullish on the sector and that this needed to cool, meaning the sector needed to correct back, and it has. On the Gold Miners Bullish % Index chart below we can see that a much more reasonable 53% of investors are bullish on the sector, compared with 100% early in July, which opens up the possibility of renewed gains.


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