The shocking truth about HAMAS!

[Leongsam]

Son of Hamas Leader Gives Glimpse Into Terror Organization

Friday , January 02, 2009


As Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other world leaders try to broker a cease-fire agreement between Israel and Hamas, one former member of the militant Islamic organization said there will never be lasting peace between the two groups.

"There is no chance. Is there any chance for fire to co-exist with the water?" said Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of one of the group's founding members.

Yousef added: "It's not about Israel, it's not about Hamas: it's about both ideologies."

Yousef, son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, one of the most influential leaders of the militant group, said the organization betrays the Palestinian cause and tortures its own members.

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Hamas, formed in the late 1980's as an outgrowth of the Palestinian branch of the radical Muslim Brotherhood, is considered a terror organization by the U.S. government. Hamas seized power in the Gaza strip in 2007 in a violent coup against the more moderate Palestinian Authority led by Mahmoud Abbas.

Yousef said he was indoctrinated at an early age to use violence to challenge Israeli control in the region. As a teenager he moved up within the organization and became the leader of the radical Islamic Youth Movement that fought Israeli tanks and troops in the streets, celebrated suicide bombings and recruited young men to the cause.

Yousef, 30, said he realized the true nature of Hamas and radical Islam during a stint in an Israeli prison. He renounced his Muslim faith, left his family behind in Ramallah and converted to Christianity.

"Islam is not the word of God," said Yousef. "If you want to be offended it's your problem. But you know something? Go study. Think for a second that I might be right. So wake up, look at your path, see where you're going. Are you really going to heaven with 72 virgins after you kill yourself and kill another 20 people?"

Yousef has sought asylum in the United States and now attends an evangelical Christian church in San Diego, Calif.

"The Hamas leadership, including my father, they're responsible; they're responsible for all the violence that happened from the organization. I know they describe it as reaction to Israeli aggression, but still, they are part of it and they had to make decisions in those operations against Israel (for) which there was the killing of many civilians."


• Click here to view video of Mosab Hassan Yousef speaking out.

 

[UseYourBrain]

What is so strange about jumpingt camp to survive? You are a good living example of Chameleon. How you can change color to suit where you are living. In US you carry the ang moh and jews balls and in Singapore you do to LKY and tomorrow you go to Dubai you will change as well. Your LKY and President did the same when the Japanese came. So what is new?

 

[theblackhole]

just craps and more craps to advance the cause of the big time neighbourhood bully....

 

[Himerus]

those Middle-East and Islamic countries,they want Palestine to be free.
now given them some land and they fight among themselves.

 

[LoveSingFade]

God is Amazing!
He has shown Mr Yousef (who is known as Joseph by friends) the Way the Truth and the Life in Jesus, Glory to God in the highest and our Saviour Jesus!

 

[theblackhole]

yes GOD is definitely amazing - spilling blood in the rivers and bathe the whole place with human blood and corpses....GOD is amazing: divide its people, encourage them to kill and exterminate each other: all in His Name - the Mighty God. yes, truly amazing and remarkable. men are idiots.given a brain to think for themselves but instead choose to be enslaved and imprisoned for generations passing on the idiocy genes of hatred and murder to their descendants generations after generations... yes hallelujuah!!!!

 

[rodent2005]

What is so strange about jumpingt camp to survive? You are a good living example of Chameleon. How you can change color to suit where you are living. In US you carry the ang moh and jews balls and in Singapore you do to LKY and tomorrow you go to Dubai you will change as well. Your LKY and President did the same when the Japanese came. So what is new?

Jump camp to survive? It's not like Israel, USA and the rest of the civilised world will cut your throat just because you believe in a different religion.

 

[AWARENESS]

WE MUST ADJUST OUR DISTORTED IMAGE OF HAMAS
Gaza is a secular society where people listen to pop music, watch TV and many women walk the streets unveiled

By William Sieghart
January 02, 2008

Last week I was in Gaza. While I was there I met a group of 20 or so police officers who were undergoing a course in conflict management. They were eager to know whether foreigners felt safer since Hamas had taken over the Government? Indeed we did, we told them. Without doubt the past 18 months had seen a comparative calm on the streets of Gaza; no gunmen on the streets, no more kidnappings. They smiled with great pride and waved us goodbye.

Less than a week later all of these men were dead, killed by an Israeli rocket at a graduation ceremony. Were they “dangerous Hamas militant gunmen”? No, they were unarmed police officers, public servants killed not in a “militant training camp” but in the same police station in the middle of Gaza City that had been used by the British, the Israelis and Fatah during their periods of rule there.

This distinction is crucial because while the horrific scenes in Gaza and Israel play themselves out on our television screens, a war of words is being fought that is clouding our understanding of the realities on the ground.

Who or what is Hamas, the movement that Ehud Barak, the Israeli Defence Minister, would like to wipe out as though it were a virus? Why did it win the Palestinian elections and why does it allow rockets to be fired into Israel? The story of Hamas over the past three years reveals how the Israeli, US and UK governments' misunderstanding of this Islamist movement has led us to the brutal and desperate situation that we are in now.

The story begins nearly three years ago when Change and Reform - Hamas's political party - unexpectedly won the first free and fair elections in the Arab world, on a platform of ending endemic corruption and improving the almost non-existent public services in Gaza and the West Bank. Against a divided opposition this ostensibly religious party impressed the predominantly secular community to win with 42 per cent of the vote.

Palestinians did not vote for Hamas because it was dedicated to the destruction of the state of Israel or because it had been responsible for waves of suicide bombings that had killed Israeli citizens. They voted for Hamas because they thought that Fatah, the party of the rejected Government, had failed them. Despite renouncing violence and recognising the state of Israel Fatah had not achieved a Palestinian state. It is crucial to know this to understand the supposed rejectionist position of Hamas. It won't recognise Israel or renounce the right to resist until it is sure of the world's commitment to a just solution to the Palestinian issue.

In the five years that I have been visiting Gaza and the West Bank, I have met hundreds of Hamas politicians and supporters. None of them has professed the goal of Islamising Palestinian society, Taleban-style. Hamas relies on secular voters too much to do that. People still listen to pop music, watch television and women still choose whether to wear the veil or not.

The political leadership of Hamas is probably the most highly qualified in the world. Boasting more than 500 PhDs in its ranks, the majority are middle-class professionals - doctors, dentists, scientists and engineers. Most of its leadership have been educated in our universities and harbour no ideological hatred towards the West. It is a grievance-based movement, dedicated to addressing the injustice done to its people. It has consistently offered a ten-year ceasefire to give breathing space to resolve a conflict that has continued for more than 60 years.

The Bush-Blair response to the Hamas victory in 2006 is the key to today's horror. Instead of accepting the democratically elected Government, they funded an attempt to remove it by force; training and arming groups of Fatah fighters to unseat Hamas militarily and impose a new, unelected government on the Palestinians. Further, 45 Hamas MPs are still being held in Israeli jails.

Six months ago the Israeli Government agreed to an Egyptian- brokered ceasefire with Hamas. In return for a ceasefire, Israel agreed to open the crossing points and allow a free flow of essential supplies in and out of Gaza. The rocket barrages ended but the crossings never fully opened, and the people of Gaza began to starve. This crippling embargo was no reward for peace.

When Westerners ask what is in the mind of Hamas leaders when they order or allow rockets to be fired at Israel they fail to understand the Palestinian position. Two months ago the Israeli Defence Forces broke the ceasefire by entering Gaza and beginning the cycle of killing again. In the Palestinian narrative each round of rocket attacks is a response to Israeli attacks. In the Israeli narrative it is the other way round.

But what does it mean when Mr Barak talks of destroying Hamas? Does it mean killing the 42 per cent of Palestinians who voted for it? Does it mean reoccupying the Gaza strip that Israel withdrew from so painfully three years ago? Or does it mean permanently separating the Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank, politically and geographically? And for those whose mantra is Israeli security, what sort of threat do the three quarters of a million young people growing up in Gaza with an implacable hatred of those who starve and bomb them pose?

It is said that this conflict is impossible to solve. In fact, it is very simple. The top 1,000 people who run Israel - the politicians, generals and security staff - and the top Palestinian Islamists have never met. Genuine peace will require that these two groups sit down together without preconditions. But the events of the past few days seem to have made this more unlikely than ever. That is the challenge for the new administration in Washington and for its European allies.

William Sieghart is chairman of Forward Thinking, an independent conflict resolution agency.

 

[The_Latest_H]

The also shocking fact, Sam, is that Hamas is the ruling party in Palestine because it won a plural majority in the 2006 year end parliamentary elections that the US wanted Abbas to hold.

And because international monitors have deemed it to be generally free and fair, and free of political interference, the results should have been recognised, and the changes within the scope has been done.

Whether we like it or not, the majority of Palestinians have had rejected Fatah because of political, moral and monetary corruption, and voted in Hamas. As a result, the parameters and paradigm has changed.

So in the end, America has to find a way to talk to Hamas, either through a third party, in a neutral country, or through low level envoys and slowly upgrading when progress is met. Because if the international community doesn't do anything, it will only deepen the distrust between the people in the ME and people around the world.

And we need the support of the majority of Muslims and Arabs in the fight against extremism and Osama Bin Laden. Pissing them off right now only makes things more complicated, both militarily and politically. That's not shrewd tactical ability.

 

[3_M]

Sir President Bush have confirmed. HAMAS are at fault.

Bush: Hamas attacks on Israel are an `act of terror'
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US President George W. Bush on Friday branded the Hamas rocket attacks on Israel an "act of terror" and outlined his own condition for a cease-fire in Gaza, saying no peace deal would be acceptable without monitoring to halt the flow of smuggled weapons to terrorist groups.
US President George W. Bush

US President George W. Bush
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Bush chose his taped, weekly radio address to speak for the first time about Israel's military assault targeting Hamas in the Gaza Strip, which began last Saturday.

"The United States is leading diplomatic efforts to achieve a meaningful cease-fire that is fully respected," Bush said. "Another one-way cease-fire that leads to rocket attacks on Israel is not acceptable. And promises from Hamas will not suffice - there must be monitoring mechanisms in place to help ensure that smuggling of weapons to terrorist groups in Gaza comes to an end."

The White House released Bush's radio address one day early. It airs on Saturday morning.
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More than 400 Palestinians and four Israelis have been killed in the latest offensive. The UN estimated Friday that a quarter of the Palestinians killed were civilians.

Bush also expressed deep concern about the humanitarian suffering of the Palestinian people in Gaza, and blamed Hamas for the situation.

"By spending its resources on rocket launchers instead of roads and schools, Hamas has demonstrated that it has no intention of serving the Palestinian people," Bush said. "America has helped by providing tens of millions of dollars in humanitarian aid, and this week we contributed an additional $85 million through the United Nations. We have consistently called on all in the region to ensure that assistance reaches those in need."

The White House has cautiously said Israel must be mindful of the toll its military strikes will have on civilians. Here, too, Bush blamed Hamas for hiding within the civilian population. "Regrettably, Palestinian civilians have been killed in recent days," he said.

Bush offered no criticism of Israel, depicting the country's air assaults as a response to the attacks on its people. The White House will not comment on whether it views the Israeli response as proportionate or not to the scope of rockets attacks on Israel.

"This recent outburst of violence was instigated by Hamas - a Palestinian terrorist group supported by Iran and Syria that calls for Israel's destruction," Bush said. "Eighteen months ago, Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in a coup, and since then has imported thousands of guns and rockets and mortars. Egypt brokered a cease-fire between Hamas and Israel, but Hamas routinely violated that cease-fire by launching rockets into Israel."

The president said that Hamas ultimately ended the cease-fire altogether on Dec. 19 and "soon unleashed a barrage of rockets and mortars that deliberately targeted innocent Israelis - an act of terror that is opposed by the legitimate leader of the Palestinian people, President (Mahmoud) Abbas."

In their waning days in power, Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have been working the phones with world allies to try organize a truce.

International calls for a cease-fire have been growing. Increasingly, the conflict appears to be another one that President-elect Barack Obama will inherit when he takes office in Jan. 20. Rice on Friday briefed Bush on developments in Gaza but said she had no plans to make an emergency visit to the region.

Bush promised to stay engaged with US partners in the Middle East and Europe and to keep Obama updated.

 

[Leongsam]

William Sieghart is chairman of Forward Thinking, an independent conflict resolution agency.

That article has already been posted. I'm giving the alternative view of what Hamas is all about.

If those "peace loving" policemen your article mentioned did their jobs, those who persist in firing rockets into Israel on a daily basis would have been arrested a long time ago.

I suggest you consume those articles written by western bleeding liberals with a firm pinch of salt!

Hamas apologist

Gordon, December 31st 2008, 12:42 pm
Hamas apologist William Sieghart, who is behind the “think tank” Forward Thinking, is writing in The Times today giving the Islamist group’s PR image a bit of a shine. We have it all wrong. Hamas are just a bunch of well educated public servants.

Sieghart, who last year brought Hamas spokesman Ghazi Hamad to the Hay on Wye literary festival, writes that “without doubt the past 18 months had seen a comparative calm on the streets of Gaza; no gunmen on the streets, no more kidnappings”. Clearly he wasn’t listening to Hamad very closely. He tells a different story admitting that following Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza about 500 Palestinians have been killed and 3,000 wounded after a failure to impose law and order.

He goes on to gush that the political leadership of Hamas is “probably the most highly qualified in the world. Boasting more than 500 PhDs in its ranks, the majority are middle-class professionals - doctors, dentists, scientists and engineers”.

Probably. Bet they drink Carlsberg. That stuff is like rocket fuel.

 

[The_Latest_H]

Bush is right in saying that Hamas has had a role in ending the ceasefire. But because his credibility has been shot to bits, most people won't bother on what he says anyway.

That's why he had shoes thrown at him. Twice.

In the end, while its politically convenient for Obama to state his loyalty in protecting Israel, and to fulfill the moral obligations that has been there since the founding, its not right in the long term to give Israel a free pass anymore.

Besides, Hamas is now shooting rockets because they are resentful of the west. They had won the 2006 elections fairly, which was arranged by the international community and backed by the US, and yet because of the entity, their win was not recognised. Anyone would have been pissed off.

And besides, this has now transpired because Bush didn't take the advice of President Abbas not to hold the elections in 2006 at all. He insisted on it, blindly thinking that Fatah would win. It is another sign Bush still is clueless about the Middle East in all aspects.

 

[3_M]

Bush is right in saying that Hamas has had a role in ending the ceasefire. But because his credibility has been shot to bits, most people won't bother on what he says anyway.

That's why he had shoes thrown at him. Twice.

In the end, while its politically convenient for Obama to state his loyalty in protecting Israel, and to fulfill the moral obligations that has been there since the founding, its not right in the long term to give Israel a free pass anymore.

Besides, Hamas is now shooting rockets because they are resentful of the west. They had won the 2006 elections fairly, which was arranged by the international community and backed by the US, and yet because of the entity, their win was not recognised. Anyone would have been pissed off.

And besides, this has now transpired because Bush didn't take the advice of President Abbas not to hold the elections in 2006 at all. He insisted on it, blindly thinking that Fatah would win. It is another sign Bush still is clueless about the Middle East in all aspects.

Can terrorists organisation take part in election?

 

[whoami]

Can terrorists organisation take part in election?

Does avenging one's family tantamount to being a terrorist?

 

[3_M]

It doesn't pay to support terrorist.

 

[whoami]

Israel is also a terrorist where killing of innocent lives is concerned.

 

[3_M]

The legal and moral liability should be on those who made used of civilians as human shield. Israel is just the victim of your blame game here.

 

[The_Latest_H]

Can terrorists organisation take part in election?

They have already took part. Hamas used to be purely a guerilla organisation, but with a political wing, they are also part of the political process, especially once they won the 2006 elections fairly.

So in the end, whether one likes it or not, Hamas is part of the process, a party that has to be recognised as an entity and be part of any negotiation process for 2 states side by side. And certainly you won't succeed inducing them into talks by bombing them.

After all, if Israel is dragged into a street fight, it would become a Stalingrad. And if anyone knows their history, Nazi Germany had superior weapons and numbers going in, but Russians had street fighting experience, and the tenacious character, and eventually the one with the superior weapons and numbers lost.

 

[theblackhole]

The legal and moral liability should be on those who made used of civilians as human shield. Israel is just the victim of your blame game here.

u r right. israel is always the victim. a victim who plays the evil role of the big time neighbourhood bully to justify its victimhood by killing his neighbours -women and children with superior and massive weapons of destruction.this is done repeatedly with the blessings from the great satan and less great satans.

 

[3_M]

They have already took part. Hamas used to be purely a guerilla organisation, but with a political wing, they are also part of the political process, especially once they won the 2006 elections fairly.

So in the end, whether one likes it or not, Hamas is part of the process, a party that has to be recognised as an entity and be part of any negotiation process for 2 states side by side. And certainly you won't succeed inducing them into talks by bombing them.

After all, if Israel is dragged into a street fight, it would become a Stalingrad. And if anyone knows their history, Nazi Germany had superior weapons and numbers going in, but Russians had street fighting experience, and the tenacious character, and eventually the one with the superior weapons and numbers lost.

"democratically" elected or not, they are still terrorist.

Israel is not obligated to have a relationship with elected leaders whose policies and views are dangerous.

Adolf Hitler was elected by the German, but few people would suggest today that the rest of the world should have ignored his genocidal views and treated him as an equal just because he emerged from a democratic process. Saddam Hussien was also democratically elected and who would suggest the world talk to him when he invaded Kuwait?