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The Quran and Hadith teach about expanding Islam using violence

According to MUIS, loan fm HDB is acceptable. What do u think? But then again where to get money to pay full for 300k bto flat?
Where is the dalil for that!
Rent la! When one loves the world more than what was ordered, all sorts of excuses can be given.
One day even pork can be halal daily! Hahaha
 
Where is the dalil for that!
Rent la! When one loves the world more than what was ordered, all sorts of excuses can be given.
One day even pork can be halal daily! Hahaha

Bang. Rent lagi expensive for a family of 5.
 
Cos theres no islamic bank in spore. For me i pay in cash. No utang. Yes..including car

You sold your car already?

You are a high-income earner, our bang loofy still need to beg MUIS for money?
 
Yes. Let's continue educating the community that riba' is probably worse than smoking.
This job is supposed to be done by MUIS. But we all know where their priorities are.
They must love the KAFIR predatory upon the ummah.

Notice when was the last time a Friday sermon reminded you about riba'? Yes. Never.
They will be judged and we will be the ummah will be the witness.

Extremism is a form of excess, do you consider it as RIBA?
 
If Muslims don't want enemies, they'll be drinking, enjoying pork, cheating, usurious, pagan, idol worshipping, polytheistic and gay.

That is an extremist interpretation on Quran 8:59-60.

When muslims "feared" that peace treaty was broken, they are entitled and permitted by Allah to an extremely violent response?

I disbelief in your allah, you( a peaceful muslim) are entitled to burn my house?
 
That is an extremist interpretation on Quran 8:59-60.

When muslims "feared" that peace treaty was broken, they are entitled and permitted by Allah to an extremely violent response?

I disbelief in your allah, you( a peaceful muslim) are entitled to burn my house?
Here is a better translation.
Quran 8:59-60

"And if you ˹O Prophet˺ see signs of betrayal by a people, respond by openly terminating your treaty with them. Surely Allah does not like those who betray.
Do not let those disbelievers think they are not within reach. They will have no escape."

Signs = evidence, indications, proof, etc.

Also note Allah orders it to be terminated openly. Means you go and inform them of your findings, and clearly declare the agreement is void due to the findings.

In a way we are ordered not to be deceitful in our dealings.
 
Here is a better translation.
Quran 8:59-60

"And if you ˹O Prophet˺ see signs of betrayal by a people, respond by openly terminating your treaty with them. Surely Allah does not like those who betray.
Do not let those disbelievers think they are not within reach. They will have no escape."

Signs = evidence, indications, proof, etc.

Also note Allah orders it to be terminated openly. Means you go and inform them of your findings, and clearly declare the agreement is void due to the findings.

In a way we are ordered not to be deceitful in our dealings.

"See signs of betrayal"
In another word, the kaafir party doesn't have to actually break the treaty for Muslims to break their side of it. Koran have abundant of 'just' excuses for muslims to turn extremely violent against non-believers.
 
Not surprising at all...


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"See signs of betrayal"
In another word, the kaafir party doesn't have to actually break the treaty for Muslims to break their side of it. Koran have abundant of 'just' excuses for muslims to turn extremely violent against non-believers.
I have explained how it is meant to be understood in arabic but if you so choose to believe in your own interpretation, it's your choice.
 
I have explained how it is meant to be understood in arabic but if you so choose to believe in your own interpretation, it's your choice.
"See signs of betrayal" is from the english translation you quoted. Nevermind, I will do some research on this verse and come back. akan datang.
 
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