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The Dave Lee (Corporal F.C.) Thread

it took them almost 30minutes to an hour before they even stretched him away to the medical center before he was even transported to a hospital using the Military ambulance.
I hope sgt Justin, ren zong, nich, ren jie and jonas is punished for this.
RIP. This group of people would have this incident haunt them for life. The parents deserve a proper explanation too.
 
One life is nothing lah ...even ten die, still no concern.
SAF cares less about the troops. That's why loyalty is a big problem in the SAF. In times of war, many of the commanders will fall victim of 'friendly' fire.
 

this one lah.
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How come our elite guards can have specky type?

If go on mission and drop his glasses then how to aim?
 
If the report from Reddit is true , it is a serious matter . No parents will dare to entrust their sons to the army . Their sons are there to fight for the country, but who will fight for them when they are down .
 
In this day and age, we need to keep reminding our Singapore son what we are fighting for when the reckless immigration doors were opened so widely causing us to lost our Singaporeans identity. Furthermore, those paper general who commanded you and forced you to eat shit and take the heat have themselves eventually shortlisted into parliament for cushy jobs to screw you even more as as a civilian. Protect yourselves even if you need to screw the paper general back. Your life, is worth more than PAP..
 
I'm surprised after so many years of NS, they still have soldiers dying from heatstroke.
I have seen so many cases during my NS/Reservist that you would expect them to be experts on prevention/identification/treatment of
heatstroke.
Special precaution should be taken in April/May which is the hottest month of the year.
The medic on duty should be court martialled for dereliction of duty unless the commanders disregard his medical advice in which case they should be held accountable.
Commanders should be able to identify heat exhaustion eg extreme sweating, dizziness,cramps, nausea ,headache ect2 and put the poor guy in the safety vehicle for observation. When heat exhaustion is not addressed, heatstroke follows.

sad to say another local died when pinoys, prcs and indian nationals are having the good life enjoying life in their aircond offices and condos.
 
I'm surprised after so many years of NS, they still have soldiers dying from heatstroke.
I have seen so many cases during my NS/Reservist that you would expect them to be experts on prevention/identification/treatment of
heatstroke.
Special precaution should be taken in April/May which is the hottest month of the year.
The medic on duty should be court martialled for dereliction of duty unless the commanders disregard his medical advice in which case they should be held accountable.
Commanders should be able to identify heat exhaustion eg extreme sweating, dizziness,cramps, nausea ,headache ect2 and put the poor guy in the safety vehicle for observation. When heat exhaustion is not addressed, heatstroke follows.

sad to say another local died when pinoys, prcs and indian nationals are having the good life enjoying life in their aircond offices and condos.
Yes, the oft repeated slogan : Jobs for fts NS for sinkies. With their cushy jobs, they enjoy the good life here. And when they're done, they return home rich and happy. And as always sinkies are made fools, many thanks to the 70%.
 
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Family of 19-year-old NSF who died after fast march 'demand full explanation from SAF'
Yahoo News Singapore • 1 hour 5 minutes ago
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Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) National Servicemen, soldiers (Yahoo News Singapore file photo)
The family of a 19-year-old full-time National Serviceman who died on Monday (30 April) are demanding a “full explanation” from the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) after an anonymous note alleging negligence by commanders began circulating online.

Private (PTE) Lee Han Xuan Dave, a Guardsman from the 1st Battalion Singapore Guards, displayed signs of heat injury in the morning of 18 April after completing an 8km fast march in Bedok Camp, the Ministry of Defence (Mindef) said in a statement on Monday.

In a Facebook post on Tuesday (1 May), Cecilia Yeo, the deceased’s aunt, shared the contents of a Facebook post from a “fellow soldier” claiming that “Dave struggled to complete his fast march” and showed signs of extreme physical exhaustion but was forced by senior commanders to finish it.

The anonymous Facebook user accused commanders of not following the proper protocol for a soldier in heat exhaustion. Sergeants were just surrounding the young NSF “talking cock and launching and cracking jokes around him, obviously thinking the soldier is trying to keng”, the user added.

Referencing the note, Yeo said that “while the truth can’t bring my nephew back, he deserves the truth to be told.”

“I am sharing this in pain but we demand full explanation from SAF to the public, who trustingly sent their children to serve the nation. I hope you share our pain and support that SAF must release full investigation and identity of all culprits to the public,” she wrote.





According to Mindef’s statement, an SAF medic attended to Lee immediately on 18 April to bring down his core temperature, and the private was then evacuated to the camp’s Medical Centre where the SAF medical team continued body cooling measures and treatment on him.

Lee was brought to Changi General Hospital, where he remained warded in the intensive care unit.

“Unfortunately, PTE Lee’s condition did not improve in the ICU and worsened during the hospitalisation,” said Mindef. He was pronounced dead at 5.32pm on Monday at the hospital.

“The Ministry of Defence and the SAF extend their deepest condolences to the family of the late serviceman and are assisting the family in this time of grief,” the statement added.

Yahoo News Singapore has sent queries to Mindef for their reaction.

Meanwhile, it is standard practice that an independent Committee of Inquiry (COI) is convened by the Armed Forces Council to investigate any death of a National Serviceman.

Separately, in a Facebook post on Monday, Jasmine Yeo, the mother of Lee, revealed that her son had signed up to donate his cornea before his passing.

According to news reports, Lee was the only child of Yeo, a spa manager, and property agent Dennis Lee. He attended Rulang Primary School, Yuhua Secondary School and Jurong Junior College. He enlisted into national service in early January this year.

On Tuesday, the bereaved mother also shared her sister’s Facebook post urging friends to find the truth about Lee’s death.
 
MINDEF stop lying. hahahhah.
We all know what kind of shit goes on in there, the secrecy act is to coverup all the dirt and misdeeds.
 
SAF failed in its 'Saving Private Dave' mission. What sort of elite guardsman soldier can't even complete a simple 8 km march?

Hey, chao chee bye. Go read those comments from the deceased colleagues before you gave such sweeping comment! KNN!
 
RIP Private Lee. Always sad to hear one of our boys died because of NS. For every one that is reported, I wonder how many is gone unreported.

Why still need NS? We can still have regulars, those tan chia peng. Who the fuck are we fighting with? If really go war fuck lah neighbours just need to urine. Shit red dot will sink!

i really pity those parents who only have 1 child and only son.

RIP Pte Lee
 
KNN what is there for explanation. it's obviously a torturing to death KNN
 
Charles Chong cae or not? After all, he's worried over one Dr. Thum.
 
Charles Chong cae or not? After all, he's worried over one Dr. Thum.
You fucking motherfucker .. fuck off rah.. you and your disgraceful behavior and your fucked up workers party..Go fuck your own anus with your workers party hammer. Gong Jeebye
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/...rold_nsf_dies_after_displaying_signs_of_heat/

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I am a soldier from 1 guards. One of our fellow soldier is currently in critical condition heat stroke (possibly brain dead) due to the reckless behavior of my fellow commanders. I want to bring this to light so that the commanders involved are duly punished and nothing gets hidden as part of the investigation.

Dave is still in critical condition in the hospital, and it has almost been one week since the incident. But there has been rumours that his condition has worsening .

Illegal turnout

The night before a 8km fast march (an activity considered high key) our entire recce platoon was turned out after lights out by our sergants, forcing us to bear crawl to the SOC grounds at bedok camp, doing thier usual tekan of making us roll in the sand and have water poured on us, to satisfy their own sadistic pleasure. Asa result we did not have the adequate 7 hours of rest mandated by the traning safety regulation required for our fast march the next day.

Commanders forcing trainees

During the fast march, Dave struggled to complete his fast march and was dragged by senior commanders, forcing him to finish the fast march even though he was showing signs of extreme physical exhaution.

Dave collapsed after collecting his timing chip at our company line. We saw Dave breathing frantically, going through delirium, with his tounge out and only the white in his eyes visible. he was not articulate.

inability of commanders to spot heat exhaustion

It was obvious that even to an untrained soldier, especially commanders who went to OCS / SCS, that dave was going through Heat Exhaution or even heat stroke. yet they still acted as though there as nothing severe or that he could even be acting "keng"

non-administering of ice packs / BCU / water mist

the commanders did not follow the proper protocol for a soldier in heat exhaution. His cloths were not removed, no ice pack were place at the vital heat dissapation points in his body and the medic was even blur not knowing what to do. The safety officer was nowhere to be found during this whole time and the commnders left his body under the hot sun instead of bringing it to a shaded area. it took them almost 30minutes to an hour before they even stretched him away to the medical center before he was even transported to a hospital using the Military ambulance.

Lack of seriousness towards the incident

To add insult to injury, the sergeants were just surrounding him, talking cock and laughing and cracking jokes around him, obviously thinking the soldier is trying to keng. I hope sgt Justin, ren zong, nich, ren jie and jonas is punished for this. I really hope the army safety throughly investigates this incident and punishes the people involved. Its no point doing lip service to "safety" by adding it as a core value when safety is not given heed.

if anything happens to him, i believe its the fault of the commanders who did not know eve how to administer the proper procedure for Heat Stroke, wasting vital time before his temperature reached 42deg. As well as commanders who dont understand the seriousness of the uninteruppted rest that is required as per training safety regulation, especially for high key activities.
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Really a Lord Of The Flies situation in Singapore National Service
 
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