Thank you PAP, CAT A $77,201

[ionzu]

excellent news! this will help to keep the road clear of the rif raff in small cars. keep the roads clear for all the lexus and bimmers. fits and jazz, please switch to bus and mrt. dun try to climb above your station in life, PAP wants you to stay down. there's not enough room at the top for all you peasants.

looking forward to 100k COEs, then there will be no more jams.

 

[Froggy]

Don't forget the iPhones too. Singapore has the most number of iPhones per capita in the world. Singaporeans are all so rich, unlike Europeans who are so poor that they spend their holidays hunting for fish at their second homes in the countryside and have all their life savings locked up in pension funds instead of being used to invest in leasehold properties. PAP is the best!

Actually if include Galaxy an all other smart phones the numbers lagi big ya.

 

[saratogas]

All the hope & dream of owning a car is gone... Suck thumb... Take public transport!

 

[mollusk]

All the hope & dream of owning a car is gone... Suck thumb... Take public transport!

public transport is the best.cheap and reliable.Buses and MRT always come on time...

 

[saratogas]

public transport is the best.cheap and reliable.Buses and MRT always come on time...

Can help feeling that you are overly carrying the balls of gahment... Why not add in efficient, comfortable and best customer service!

 

[Fook Seng]

For the first 3 days, many cars stayed away from the time zone which has the highest ERP rate but come the the 4th and 5th day and henceforth, the cars seem to return.

The idea of ERP and COE, in fact, any monetary disincentive that they put up in the future is not to discourage usage altogether but to re-distribute and to get rid of marginal cases who cannot compete for the limited resources. That is why the call for general major improvement in all other alternatives even for car owners and the curb on population growth.

It's time for the gov to raise the ERP much higher to achieve the desired result.

You should read my other post where I mentioned we have to sacrifice usage in order to lower the cost of ownership.

Of course the way to achieve this is through monetary disincentive, again pushing the marginal users to the public system (I must add marginal users do not mean they are non-car owners). In fact if the whole transportation issue is tackled on all fronts simultaneously, the number of people who will need to compromise their desires may not be many and even for them, the alternatives may not be so unattractive. And overall for all commuters generally a less expensive way to travel.

 

[KNNBCCB]

There goes my dream of buying new car man... hahahah...

get a kap kia AK ...

 

[Fook Seng]

hi there

1.
2. ak, hmmm!
3. what did you last voted for?

What AK voted didn't matter. Who AK voted didn't win.

 

[@rmadill0]

Even if using bank loan to service COE, it still shows that Singaporeans are will to fork out that kind of money to own a car.

 

[soIsee]

The idea of ERP and COE, in fact, any monetary disincentive that they put up in the future is not to discourage usage altogether but to re-distribute and to get rid of marginal cases who cannot compete for the limited resources. That is why the call for general major improvement in all other alternatives even for car owners and the curb on population growth.

You should read my other post where I mentioned we have to sacrifice usage in order to lower the cost of ownership.

Of course the way to achieve this is through monetary disincentive, again pushing the marginal users to the public system (I must add marginal users do not mean they are non-car owners). In fact if the whole transportation issue is tackled on all fronts simultaneously, the number of people who will need to compromise their desires may not be many and even for them, the alternatives may not be so unattractive. And overall for all commuters generally a less expensive way to travel.

The gov is not interested or have an interest to find commuter an alternative/cheaper mode of travel.

The gov wants to control certain behaviour that leads to traffic congestion.

Those who use their cars during the peak morning and evening hours are not 'marginal' in numbers.

These are the ones causing the problem which resulted in COE and ERPs.

Imagine if almost 50% would to buy their cars but these remain parked during the peak hours, would you have traffic congestion?

Sure, given the much higher prices to come, some , I say some, will move to public transport or restructure their travel pattern but the disincentive to use their cars now IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH to 'encourage' many to do so.

As I have said, if ERP were to be set at a rate of more than $10 a pop, you will see many will 1) find an alternative route ( which results in congestion in the out llying areas) or 2) restructure their time to pass thru the ERP ( which is what is desired) or 3) use public transport.

For the first not to happen , I say ERP all routes and charge a high rate.

We'll then see, who are the Sinkie who wants to own a car and still can pay for it!

 

[giggity_shit]

Hit this high before... Don't worry, will come crashing down in 2 it's time

The gov is not interested or have an interest to find commuter an alternative/cheaper mode of travel.

The gov wants to control certain behaviour that leads to traffic congestion.

Those who use their cars during the peak morning and evening hours are not 'marginal' in numbers.

These are the ones causing the problem which resulted in COE and ERPs.

Imagine if almost 50% would to buy their cars but these remain parked during the peak hours, would you have traffic congestion?

Sure, given the much higher prices to come, some , I say some, will move to public transport or restructure their travel pattern but the disincentive to use their cars now IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH to 'encourage' many to do so.

As I have said, if ERP were to be set at a rate of more than $10 a pop, you will see many will 1) find an alternative route ( which results in congestion in the out llying areas) or 2) restructure their time to pass thru the ERP ( which is what is desired) or 3) use public transport.

For the first not to happen , I say ERP all routes and charge a high rate.

We'll then see, who are the Sinkie who wants to own a car and still can pay for it!

 

[Spock]

Since there are no protests or riots in SG, it must mean that SGreans are very much in agreement that owning a car should cost an arm and a leg. Can't wait for the population to hit 6M, I want to see how high the threshold for pain SGreans can bear.

 

[giggity_shit]

Sinkies behave irrationally, selling good cars just because warranty is over ... How not to have rising coe?

 

[Alamaking]

What AK voted didn't matter. Who AK voted didn't win.

Think your full cash COE is a better idea, plus the cost of the car, no more loans!!! but then again, there will be no sales on the car = no taxes for the gov. Everything is Gov, to suck your dry dry, hahaha....

 

[zhihau]

Its not difficult to bring COE prices down...just disallow COEs to be financed by banks.

think me had mentioned it in post #31

 

[watchman8]

The smell of a new car is very, very expensive. Heart also pain when car tiok dented or scratched.

That smell is poisonous too. Apparently the chemical treatment to retard fire is highly toxic. Older cars usually have less of this vapor as most of it dissipated within first year.

 

[watchman8]

Sinkies behave irrationally, selling good cars just because warranty is over ... How not to have rising coe?

How does this selling create rising Coe?

 

[watchman8]

Even if using bank loan to service COE, it still shows that Singaporeans are will to fork out that kind of money to own a car.

Another pap innovation, to allow banks to finance tax on a massive scale.

 

[Fook Seng]

Think your full cash COE is a better idea, plus the cost of the car, no more loans!!! but then again, there will be no sales on the car = no taxes for the gov. Everything is Gov, to suck your dry dry, hahaha....

Not my idea. Zhihau's idea.

 

[Fook Seng]

That smell is poisonous too. Apparently the chemical treatment to retard fire is highly toxic. Older cars usually have less of this vapor as most of it dissipated within first year.

If left in the hot sun, the vapors are doubly poisonous as the concentration can reach several times above safe limits.