TH will not serve Ong, even if they could. Joseph Ong is now nothing more than a spent, hollow shell. It is his contacts that are more valuable. They (police, ISD, etc) are after that.
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TEMASEK Holdings writes to Joseph Ong again
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TH will not serve Ong, even if they could. Joseph Ong is now nothing more than a spent, hollow shell. It is his contacts that are more valuable. They (police, ISD, etc) are after that.
the irony if joseph ong get sued and the money won is used to finance pap ib! waiting for the law suit tho, got action to watch. pap looks bad, tr gets m&d in its face, everyone happy - the media, toc, opposition!
By moving so slowly, TH got stuffed by TR again. The resouces at TR's disposal seem to be considerable. The tactics deployed, while apparently childish looking, are actually quite sophisticated from a legal point of view.
Temasek Review agrees to sell its domain name for US$1.00
PRESS RELEASE
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/1...rees-to-sell-its-main-domain-name-for-us1-00/
A preliminary agreement has been reached between the editors of Temasek Review and a non-Singaporean businesswoman on the sale of our domain, temasekreview.com on 23rd October 2010.
About a week ago, when our editorial team first heard about the “rumors” of Temasek Holdings’ interest in our site, we already suspected that Temasek Holdings would never contact us professionally with their “concerns” and would resort to “underhand” means to “rob” us of our domain name, banking on the fact that our editors will not be willing to reveal ourselves fighting the case. We then immediately contacted our host to discreetly source for a buyer for our domain name, which they did.
This “suspicion” has now been reasonably confirmed by Temasek Holdings’ constant refusal to contact us directly and the latest “spins” by many local papers.
Although we have been adequately advised by lawyers in Panama and the US that we have a strong case before the ICANN, we are not willing to waste precious time and resources which should be put to good use. We are also not prepared to reveal our identities to contest the “robbing” of our domain name.
We are of the opinion that the domain itself is worthless and Temasek Review owes it success to NOT the editorial team or the Domain Name but to the authors, contributors and readers. Temasek Review’s future name, be it named Temasek Revealed, Temasek Unrevealed or Temasek Rejected is irrelevant as long as our readers believes in our dedication and ability to live up to our promise of providing a free and independent platform for Singaporeans without a voice.
We are also concerned with the various smear campaign initiated against Dr. Joseph Ong to “compel” us to surrender our legally registered domain name and the goodwill that comes with it. The fact that Dr. Joseph Ong is unfortunately caught in the crossfire between Temasek Holdings and Temasek Review is also one of the main reasons why we decided to sell off our domain name, we felt that it is unfair to the doctor, a fellow Singaporean to have to suffer because of us.
The following are key points agreed upon with our buyer:
1. The purchase price for the domain be agreed at a token sum of US$1.00 and buyer agrees to a further payment for goodwill, the equivalent of 12 months’ dedicated server lease with our present host.
2. The buyer agrees to allow us to continue the use of the domain name for up to 90 days upon the completion of the transfer of the domain name ownership so that we can properly and adequately inform our readers of our new domain name. During the transitioning period of 90 days, the buyer will have no say whatsoever in the running of our site.
3. That both buyer and seller agree to engage the service of our present host to complete the transfer of the domain name ownership, who is also the sponsoring registrar of our domain name. The ownership transfer for the domain is expected to be completed within 7 days.
4. That the identity of both buyer and seller be kept strictly confidential, before and after the sale.
For the record, we have also informed the buyer that there is an EXTREMELY HIGH possibility that Temasek Holdings (or its subsidiaries) may try to “rob” her of her newly acquired domain name and she has assured us that she will defend the “robbing” of the domain name to the best of her ability.
This is also one of the main reasons why we decided to sell her the domain name although we do have other offers, some offering high as US$30,000 for a once-off. (We would like to see Temasek Holdings argue their case with both parties represented).
We are glad that we can put the issue of site / domain name behind us and move on to concerntrate on the larger issues and important issues at hand. Temasek Review (or whatever it will be called after the sale) will continue to champion the rights of the people at all cost for one and ONLY one reason:
BECAUSE WE ARE SINGAPOREANS
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Amanda Tan
for Temasek Review
doesn't matter. th would step on joseph ong's neck as he was the one who sold off to tr as he claimed, so he has to name names or be implicated. joseph ong should just sue back at them. get ravi as his lawyer! lol
Incredulous
PAP backside kanna assream again by a little
COCKROACH.
PAP backside kanna assream again by a little
COCKROACH.
This is another big joke. TR really got so much time to think of such story. Look at how specific TR is.
"non-singaporean" buyer.
As you are a fervent TR supporter, I am not surprised you buy their story. Or are you not?
Maybe he thinks he can just keep blaming a phantom 3rd party and TH can suck thumb.
He is just demented. I am actually very sure he put up the video himself. Maybe he intended it as a private video but somehow it got leaked so he tried to cover up by posting it on gutteruncensored then claiming it isn't him.
Not only demented, but a hound dog that was caught with his pants down!
He can play this game with Temasek Holdings as long as he likes. But the more resistance and shadow play the more he will suffer in the end!
He can play this game with Temasek Holdings as long as he likes. But the more resistance and shadow play the more he will suffer in the end!
He wasn't caught. He pulled his pants down and cried out for attention. Even the complaint to gutteruncensored I now suspect is to keep the thread alive.
Which individual would wnat to buy over TR? have the person dont enough research on the possible outcome?
TR trying to bullshit their way out again?
IF TH really were to take legal action in any form, no one, whether Singaporean or not, would want to handle this shit.
TR trying to bullshit their way out again?
IF TH really were to take legal action in any form, no one, whether Singaporean or not, would want to handle this shit.
TNP "expert" legal analysis of the TH vs TR battle
Temasek versus Temasek: What’s in a (domain) name?
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/10/25/temasek-versus-temasek-whats-in-a-domain-name/
What’s in a name?
Well, if you’re a sovereign wealth fund worth billions, a lot.
And if your financial report has been called Temasek Review since 2004, the last thing you’d want to be associated with is a socio-political website that is stridently anti-government.
That’s the view of branding experts The New Paper on Sunday spoke to.
While Temasek Review (TR, for the anti-government website) is being bashed online, an intriguing battle is emerging offline.
And the fight is over the domain name www.temasekreview.com.
Type “review.temasek.com.sg” and up pops Temasek Review, Temasek Holdings’ financial report.
Search for “Temasek Holdings’ financial report”, and again the page that pops up at the top is Temasek Review, the financial report. But search for “Temasek Review”, and at the top of the list is the anti-government website.
This battle is so serious that The New Paper on Sunday understands that the domain names temasekreview.com.sg, temasekreview.com.hk and temasekreview.com.cn among others have since been acquired. Sources said Temasek Holdings has acquired the domain names.
Branding experts said it goes beyond tussling over a name.
“The name Temasek is synonymous with Singapore. So it’s expected that the company would want to protect the name,” said Ms Fatoma Alladin, director of PR Communications.
“At the end of the day, it’s not just about protecting the name but also protecting its reputation,” she added.
More so if the trademark is widely used and is well known, said Mr Luke Lim, chief executive of branding consultancy AS Louken.
“Obviously, Temasek Holdings is spending time and effort to protect the Temasek Review trademark.
“It believes the name is a cause worth fighting for,” he said.
So what can Temasek Holdings do? Buy the TR domain name? But then who does it write out the cheque to?
Everyone associated with the website has so far hidden behind a cloak of anonymity.
Lawyer Tan Hee Joek of Tan See Swan & Company said identifying the people behind TR “would be very difficult”.
Only the domain buyers and the domain registration company would be privy to their identities.
Confidentiality clauses would also ensure the information is not leaked to external parties.
So it’ll be tough for those who feel they have been defamed by TR to serve it with lawyer’s letters, Mr Tan said.
They can get a court order to enforce the domain registration company to reveal the identity of the site’s owners.
If the domain registration company is located outside Singapore, they would have to go through that country’s courts to do so.
Temasekreview.com was registered as a domain name in July last year. Last November, Temasek Holdings trademarked the Temasek Review name.
While domain names are separate from trademarks – which can be any distinctive name, logo or sign that is associated with a company – companies do try to protect their brand name by registering all possible permutations of it as domain names on the Internet.
Temasek Holdings may be able to get the domain name back – if it can prove that the Temasek Review name had been used in bad faith, said Mr Bryan Ghows, the director of intellectual property and technology at TSMP Law Corporation.
It would have to file a complaint with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann), which has worldwide power over all domain names.
Panellists would decide on the dispute.
If TR had indeed used the name in bad faith, Icann can direct the registrar to change or remove the domain name.
It is then up to Temasek Holdings to decide if it wants to use that domain name.
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Report: Koh Hui Theng and Ng Wan Ching
The New Paper ([email protected])
Temasek versus Temasek: What’s in a (domain) name?
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/10/25/temasek-versus-temasek-whats-in-a-domain-name/
What’s in a name?
Well, if you’re a sovereign wealth fund worth billions, a lot.
And if your financial report has been called Temasek Review since 2004, the last thing you’d want to be associated with is a socio-political website that is stridently anti-government.
That’s the view of branding experts The New Paper on Sunday spoke to.
While Temasek Review (TR, for the anti-government website) is being bashed online, an intriguing battle is emerging offline.
And the fight is over the domain name www.temasekreview.com.
Type “review.temasek.com.sg” and up pops Temasek Review, Temasek Holdings’ financial report.
Search for “Temasek Holdings’ financial report”, and again the page that pops up at the top is Temasek Review, the financial report. But search for “Temasek Review”, and at the top of the list is the anti-government website.
This battle is so serious that The New Paper on Sunday understands that the domain names temasekreview.com.sg, temasekreview.com.hk and temasekreview.com.cn among others have since been acquired. Sources said Temasek Holdings has acquired the domain names.
Branding experts said it goes beyond tussling over a name.
“The name Temasek is synonymous with Singapore. So it’s expected that the company would want to protect the name,” said Ms Fatoma Alladin, director of PR Communications.
“At the end of the day, it’s not just about protecting the name but also protecting its reputation,” she added.
More so if the trademark is widely used and is well known, said Mr Luke Lim, chief executive of branding consultancy AS Louken.
“Obviously, Temasek Holdings is spending time and effort to protect the Temasek Review trademark.
“It believes the name is a cause worth fighting for,” he said.
So what can Temasek Holdings do? Buy the TR domain name? But then who does it write out the cheque to?
Everyone associated with the website has so far hidden behind a cloak of anonymity.
Lawyer Tan Hee Joek of Tan See Swan & Company said identifying the people behind TR “would be very difficult”.
Only the domain buyers and the domain registration company would be privy to their identities.
Confidentiality clauses would also ensure the information is not leaked to external parties.
So it’ll be tough for those who feel they have been defamed by TR to serve it with lawyer’s letters, Mr Tan said.
They can get a court order to enforce the domain registration company to reveal the identity of the site’s owners.
If the domain registration company is located outside Singapore, they would have to go through that country’s courts to do so.
Temasekreview.com was registered as a domain name in July last year. Last November, Temasek Holdings trademarked the Temasek Review name.
While domain names are separate from trademarks – which can be any distinctive name, logo or sign that is associated with a company – companies do try to protect their brand name by registering all possible permutations of it as domain names on the Internet.
Temasek Holdings may be able to get the domain name back – if it can prove that the Temasek Review name had been used in bad faith, said Mr Bryan Ghows, the director of intellectual property and technology at TSMP Law Corporation.
It would have to file a complaint with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann), which has worldwide power over all domain names.
Panellists would decide on the dispute.
If TR had indeed used the name in bad faith, Icann can direct the registrar to change or remove the domain name.
It is then up to Temasek Holdings to decide if it wants to use that domain name.
.
Report: Koh Hui Theng and Ng Wan Ching
The New Paper ([email protected])
You are truly off.
Do you think TH cares two hoots about the TR domain name? I bet you some staff at TH don't even realize Temasek Review was another name given to their annual report.
This is one man trying to flee the scrutiny of both the media as well as TH and to avoid having to account for anything, or worse, perjure himself by making a false declaration. Explains all his actions, which are getting more haphazard by the day.
I'm surprised you think TR has, or has ever had, the upper hand.
Do you think TH cares two hoots about the TR domain name? I bet you some staff at TH don't even realize Temasek Review was another name given to their annual report.
This is one man trying to flee the scrutiny of both the media as well as TH and to avoid having to account for anything, or worse, perjure himself by making a false declaration. Explains all his actions, which are getting more haphazard by the day.
I'm surprised you think TR has, or has ever had, the upper hand.
ICANN and Temasek Holdings.
See the relation? 1 is a non-profit organisation. The other is an investment company.
From day 1 Temasek Holdings is not interested in that domain name at all. They just want to dig out all the so-called "editors". Now they got 1, and they are biting at him not letting him go.
Stop thinking within your little well. Simi iCann? simi foreign courts?
Just sue Joe Ong in Singapore , keep him in the courts for the next 9 months. He'll be crying out for mercy.
If they win, Joe goes to jail for contempt if he doesn't obey. If he does obey, he'll have so much egg in his face, people will think it was a whale's egg. If they lose, Joe will be so out of pocket he'll probably rue the day he messed with Temasek.
Best thing is, most of the opposition will join in the cheering. MS Goh will publicly say don't disturb him but behind closed doors will cackle with glee.
Precisely. TH is yanking the chain not because they want to beat the dog. The dog's already been beaten flat. They're going after the guys who placed that dog there to begin with or who are still feeding the dog.
Sue him under what grounds? For owning a business overseas? A website that is not subject to Singapore laws.
Now if they can prove that he wrote the articles he can kena sued for libel etc etc etc. You see, Joe did nothing wrong by owning a website. That is why Singapore wants all these foreign newspapers distributed in Singapore to have a local presence - so that they can be sued. nUnfortunately, distribution has gone electronic.
There is no way that he is responsible for the contributors to TR. Just like ST is not responsible on content in its forum. Or SamLeong is not responsible for the content here.
OK they might be trying to squeeze him for who are the contributors. But it depends on his mettle. If he does not budge, there is really nothing that they can do.
I think if TH is not careful they might start looking silly.
Now if they can prove that he wrote the articles he can kena sued for libel etc etc etc. You see, Joe did nothing wrong by owning a website. That is why Singapore wants all these foreign newspapers distributed in Singapore to have a local presence - so that they can be sued. nUnfortunately, distribution has gone electronic.
There is no way that he is responsible for the contributors to TR. Just like ST is not responsible on content in its forum. Or SamLeong is not responsible for the content here.
OK they might be trying to squeeze him for who are the contributors. But it depends on his mettle. If he does not budge, there is really nothing that they can do.
I think if TH is not careful they might start looking silly.
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