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Temasek Holdings Reap S$2,100,000,000 Profit From Sale of Merrill Lynch

Hamlin

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You spastic :mad: numbers don't lie

I cant wait to say something to this chap.. please dont scream at people if they dont agree to your views..

Numbers dont lie??? lehman paid out billions in bonus for the year 2007... turn of the new year... they are kaput!!! numbers are only good on the date they reach the press.. MTM...

While I dont go around saying that owning BOA shares is a bad thing.. I'll also invite you to look at all the writings on the walls.. WaMu, HBOS,AIG maybe MS, Goldman.. Anymore bad news from the states can very quickly change the status of that investment in ML. Currently the situation is bleak. And even if Temasek decided to sell the stake today, they would still have to find a real buyer for it. BoA can say 'Err.. you can keep your stake' At the end of the day valuation is still a perception.
 
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Hamlin

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You spastic maggot :mad: I bet all your life savings are kept in your piggy bank. How much 10cents coins have you collected?

Where are your manners.. you cursed everyone who responded to your posts. Calm down.

You did a lot of 'C&P' here shows that you are pretty updated on the financial issues out there but your analysis does show you believe whatever you read and dont spend enough time understanding and analysing the periodicals.
 

Whats4

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You spastic maggot :mad: I bet all your life savings are kept in your piggy bank. How much 10cents coins have you collected?

Dear retard / fucktard

as a fellow pap running dog, it is my duty to remind u to be gracious towards other forummers. please practiced what our chopper vision pap masters hv preached. be gracious!!!
 

clinton666

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Where are your manners.. you cursed everyone who responded to your posts. Calm down.

You did a lot of 'C&P' here shows that you are pretty updated on the financial issues out there but your analysis does show you believe whatever you read and dont spend enough time understanding and analysing the periodicals.

You ball-less chicken shit retard. This forum is strictly for real man, not for faggots like you. You should be joining some pussy forum for small girls.:mad:

 

quixot

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May not be real profit. Read this:

<quote>
These are some questions which arises in my mind regarding the BAC MER
deal. To get some answers to these I tried to look for a merger
agreement however

couldn't find any. As I understand no such agreement has been
published yet. If anyone on this forum has it please post the
location. I checked the Websites

of these two companies couldn't find anything on the BofA site. The
one on Merril Lynch site looks like a press statement which I guess
everyone has seen.

This is kind of wishy washy which brags about these two companies and
their combined strength however doesn't say exactly when this deal
will materialise.
I quote the exact statement

"The transaction is expected to close in the first quarter of 2009. It
has been approved by directors of both companies and is subject to
shareholder votes

at both companies and standard regulatory approvals."

Please note the expected statement and no concrete dates are provided
by which the deal will be over.

The first question that arises in my mind is why did Bank of America
(BAC) rush to buy Merrill (MER) at 1.8 times its book value? We
certainly understand why

Merrill took $29, and we understand that they're a good match (better
than Lehman-BOFA), but what was BOFA thinking?

If BOFA had waited a day, it probably could have bought it for $10.
Given what Lehman would have done to the market in the absence of a
Merrill deal, the

timing and price doesn't make sense.

I am not questioning the company it bought but the price at which it
agreed to buy.

There can be two answers, either BofA was made to believe by MER that
there were other bidders offering higher price or Fed Forced BAC to
buy MER to stop MER

from going bankrupt as without the buyoff news MER would have opened
below $10 on Monday and by this time may have gone bankrupt. Fed
however made sure the

deal was open ended and left enough wiggle room for BAC to exit
anytime they wanted. Fact that a deal like this which takes months to
finalize was done in

less than 48 hours also raised some eyebrows.

The second question is regarding the wide arbitrage spread between
these two stocks which I had earlier pointed out in the SELL SELL SELL
post.
On Monday it was like this

BAC 29 so MER should be at 29 X .895 = 24.9 but actually it was 23
almost $2

Lets see today's closing price
BAC = 27.20 so MER should be 27.20 = 23.36 actually it is 19.36 so the
gap has doubled to $4.

The answer Merger arbitrage funds are seemingly balking at the Bank of
America agreement to buy Merrill Lynch. As a result, the difference
between the MER

share price and the BAC offer is stuck up around 18%, which is very
high. This clearly indicates uncertainty with the deal. If it was
known for sure that the

deal would take place they would have purchased MER to match the price
with BAC.

I think the next six months will be very important which will tell
what happens to the deal.

I can think of these possibilities

1. MER turnsaround. In such a case MER shareholders won't agree to the
deal and deal doesn't go through. However MER having losses for last
four quarters is

expected to show earning of -$10 per share. So chances of MER going
green in next six months in remote.

2. BAC keeps their share price low through market manipulation to buy
MER for cheap if and when the deal is finalized. Ultimately MER share
prices drop from

now on till the deal is finalized at least six months for sure.

3. MER assets are way inflated and the exact value is unknown. Because
MER doesn't have a clue how many of the houses financed by it
indirectly will

foreclose. As per the indications foreclosures are not going to stop
anytime soon. So MER goes deeper and deeper into the red and BAC sees
that it has bitten

more than it can swallow. So two things can happen

a) BAC stands by the deal takes the losses and both BAC and MER losses
share value.
b) BAC comes out of the deal using the shareholder approval clause.
BAC rallies MER goes bankrupt.

So in all of the above scenarios except the first MER stock price is
going to go down in the coming six months.

I also googled a BAC MER Deal and almost all of them echo the
sentiment that ultimately the deal won't go through. Here are some of
the links

http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/09/17/merger_arb_spre.html
http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/ViewPost.aspx?bpid=87011&t=010009919809452...
http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2008/09/bacmer-the-mark.html
http://www.clusterstock.com/2008/9/why-did-bank-of-america-bac-pay-29...
http://www.streetinsider.com/Insiders+Blog/Merrill+Lynch+(MER)+Tradin...
http://www.clusterstock.com/2008/9/merrill-mer-stock-down-again-will-...

If you have counter arguments to these please post as I would be happy
to know about them.
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theblackhole

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You ball-less chicken shit retard. This forum is strictly for real man, not for faggots like you. You should be joining some pussy forum for small girls.:mad:



U r terrible with this type of papa vulgarities and mama expletives.Why ur mouth so foul and so dirty one.Go wash with listerine and caustic soda before you open your mouth next time okay. You pap man or woman or what? All you know are faggots, maggots and chickensit!!! Now you add pussy. Something very wlong with u!!! Go wash yourself.Don't dirty this forum.
 

clinton666

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U r terrible with this type of papa vulgarities and mama expletives.Why ur mouth so foul and so dirty one.Go wash with listerine and caustic soda before you open your mouth next time okay. You pap man or woman or what? All you know are faggots, maggots and chickensit!!! Now you add pussy. Something very wlong with u!!! Go wash yourself.Don't dirty this forum.

You spastic maggot. You should STFU if you have nothing of substance to contribute :mad:
 

sunny302

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You should STFU if you have nothing of substance to contribute

What substance have you contributed so far:confused: assumptions misconceptions, lies...:mad:and the list goes on :eek:

If you are willing to accept alternative view(s) for your postings, do you think we will poke fun at you. Where is your sense of decorum you twit ???:rolleyes:
 
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kiss

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I have got Clinton666 IP address.

Am sending it to my American hacker team to crack this matrix. :eek::p:biggrin:

Clinton666, bye bye !!! Hehehehehe..........
 

theblackhole

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this clinton shithead:...u neber change your maggot and faggot image. very little vocabulary.go back to your kindy class and learn more words, more manners and please be more gracious. you're giving your papa and mama a very bad name. u r one fuckup and messed up kid. go and rinse your mouth with sulphuric acid.cheers!
 

clinton666

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this clinton shithead:...u neber change your maggot and faggot image. very little vocabulary.go back to your kindy class and learn more words, more manners and please be more gracious. you're giving your papa and mama a very bad name. u r one fuckup and messed up kid. go and rinse your mouth with sulphuric acid.cheers!

You retarded sissy :mad: Your mummy forgot to give to you balls when you were born.

This forum is for man, not for sissies like you.
 

theblackhole

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You retarded sissy :mad: Your mummy forgot to give to you balls when you were born.

This forum is for man, not for sissies like you.

You got your balls in your mouth.That's why you speak and write like a fucker spewing vulgarities and expletives. Go back to kindy and learn more you twit,pea-brain,bird-shit and moron.Maggot,faggot,sissy,retard and balls are the only things you know.Go get yourself a dick and talk with more prick.Hahah...
 

clinton666

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You got your balls in your mouth.That's why you speak and write like a fucker spewing vulgarities and expletives. Go back to kindy and learn more you twit,pea-brain,bird-shit and moron.Maggot,faggot,sissy,retard and balls are the only things you know.Go get yourself a dick and talk with more prick.Hahah...

Your mama is so retarded that she got hit by a parked car.
Yo mamma is so retarded that she tripped on a cordless phone
Your mama is so ugly that she scares blind kids.
Your mama is so ugly that when i brought her to the zoo they said "Thanks for bringing her back."
 

clinton666

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All you treacherous dogs who spew crap about our country's finances. EAT YOUR HEART OUT!
The Truth is our investments are all profitable..
 
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