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Support Mr. Tan Jee Say to become Singapore's President / Politician / Reformer! No.1

tanwahtiu

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Re: Support Mr. Tan Jee Say to become Singapore's President / Politician / Reformer!

Char-Azn,



Did anyone actually bother reading the whole damn thing and think about the implications of what it brings

I'll not talk too deep into it. Just talk about the one where he wants to move manufacturing away

To summarize. He wants manufacturing out and let it slowly disappear entirely coz it is costing the government money and it depends a lot on FT workforce. Instead he wants to move them out the country and use SG to provide higher level of services e.g. auditing to these factories who have moved overseas

My problem with this stupid plan
1)Have he ever consider the fact that for every freaking factory job in SG, there are a lot of other products and services running that supports these company. Supply chain, Finance services, cleaners, IT, etc. When U shut down 1 factory in SG, you don't just take away the jobs of the pple working in that factory, you also take away the business of other companies that are supporting that factory. Sure you may have a disproportion of Foreigners working in that factory but that same factory is keeping a lot of other Business whom have locals working for them, running. Taking manufacturing totally out of the picture = losing all these businesses and jobs


These jobs or works are considered domestic services and it is essential and aunties will not run our of jobs cleaning your offices. When saying 'moving away from maunfacturing' it could means 'low end value maunfacturing' like still making slippers, old tech or no tech production. And if the country still want such manufacturings then of course it has to source for no brain workers and pay them peanuts.


2)Yes the government is throwing money into manufacturing to keep some of them afloat, this same money is also spent keeping thousands of pple in their job(see pt 1). Once you lose the jobs, they are not going to come back. Just look at the US, they lose tons of manufacturing to China, in their attempt to get some of these jobs back, they try to force China to push up the RMB? U think these will bring manufacturing back to US? Of coz not. It will only push up inflation and plant owners would move the business to cheaper locations like Vietnam or Indon. Once you lose them, it's too late to get them back

So much hype from PAP Supreme leaders saying about making Singapore a first world country then certain low end manufacturings shd go if you want to keep your children in Singapore. Are you children not highly academic qualified to provide services job than to stick to manufacturing slippers?



3)TJS's plan depends a lot on these businesses who have moved out making use of services back in SG essentially making us a service hub. I have 1 very simple question. Why in the world of F would a company who have moved out of SG come all the way back to make use of it's services when it can probably find the same service in their respective country and more likely then not at a cheaper rate????

4)He wants us to become a service hub = jobs which requires higher level skillsets. What happens to the poor and uneducated. Staff working at Production lines are mostly lesser educated. U take that away from them, where do U expect them to work at? Not everyone can be trained to do desk jobs. If someone can be a white collar worker working in an aircon office with fairly decent pay, you think they would want to work at a factory job for half the pay meh? In an ideal world, we can provide training and education for the lower level of society and try to push them up. In reality, it's not possible to help everyone. His stupid plan in essence is going to ditch the poor and support the elites.


The domestic jobs will still be around like cleaning and clearing rubbish and if you think these workers do not deserve min wages then how you want them to sustain the costs of living which goes up every year. If there is min wages there would not be any poor people. Time to stop discriminate jobs like cleaning and clearing rubish are for poor and uneducated people. These jobs are as important as PM job. Who is going to clean for you after the NDP celebration is over? Will the PM do it?

He used the example of Australia and Japan where manufacturing have been reduced over the years, well here is some news for him, Australia and Japan still have a very strong manufacturing industry up till today and not to mention industry like Mining and agriculture where the population can fall back to if they are unable to find a job in the city. In SG, if you don't have the skills to get a high level job and no low level jobs left for U coz some joker moved them all out, you can really go jiak sai.


The manufacturing in Australia is still seriving for biz that cannot be done overseas. For some manufacturing that does not make sustain the eonomy, like making slippers, of course give it to 3rd world countries like Singapore (still thinking of making slippers) and their leaders still dreaming that their country is a first world country and can write a book about it somemore no shame .... hahaha.

Wait now that I think about it, making him president may be a good thing. That way we at least ensure he is never elected MP and never getting the chance to implement his stupid plan. I think I know who I am going to vote for

Everyone please vote TJS!!!!!

They come to promise upgrading for Hillview Ave estate if they win the election, instead bull doze and disperse the voters so how to trust them more FTs is better for you?
 

Char_Azn

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Re: Support Mr. Tan Jee Say to become Singapore's President / Politician / Reformer!

I'll do this point for point for you

These jobs or works are considered domestic services and it is essential and aunties will not run our of jobs cleaning your offices. When saying 'moving away from maunfacturing' it could means 'low end value maunfacturing' like still making slippers, old tech or no tech production. And if the country still want such manufacturings then of course it has to source for no brain workers and pay them peanuts.

I was naming a few example. Job loss will will NOT be limited to domestic services but let's look at domestic services first. When a big client moves out for example a cleaning company and there is less work to do, the company will take the following measures, make their workers take a pay cut or reduce head count to ensure business sustainability. More Jobs loss. The market is not infinite. When 1 factor is reduced so does the rest. If there are X number of companies with Y number of workers providing Z number of companies. If Z - 1 then the effect goes downward for the other numbers too. Coz the X number of companies can no longer support the Y number of workers. Either they reduce the number of workers or a number of companies close down. Both leads to the same result, job loss.

Let's talk about specific businesses supporting the factory that have moved out. I can give you a very good example. My company have serveral plant in Taiwan 1 of which has 1 customer. The only purpose to keep that plant running is to support this one customer. Wanna make a guess what will happen if this customer moves out? Similarly there are companies that manufacture goods or supply services to a particular industry. If the customer they are supported moves out, what do U think they will do? Move to a business model they are totally not familiar with or follow the other factory to another country? Whatever the case guess what? More job losses

Tan Jee Say's plan never thought through every thing.

So much hype from PAP Supreme leaders saying about making Singapore a first world country then certain low end manufacturings shd go if you want to keep your children in Singapore. Are you children not highly academic qualified to provide services job than to stick to manufacturing slippers?

U think everyone can study and get a diploma or degree in life? Look around you!!! There are a lot of pple who are not academically inclined. What are U going to do about these pple?


BTW you miss point 3 which is the MOST IMPORTANT POINT in TJS stupid Plan. To move out manufacturing and provide services for this companies who have moved out

The domestic jobs will still be around like cleaning and clearing rubbish and if you think these workers do not deserve min wages then how you want them to sustain the costs of living which goes up every year. If there is min wages there would not be any poor people. Time to stop discriminate jobs like cleaning and clearing rubish are for poor and uneducated people. These jobs are as important as PM job. Who is going to clean for you after the NDP celebration is over? Will the PM do it?

See part 1 of point 1. It has to do with sustainability

The manufacturing in Australia is still seriving for biz that cannot be done overseas. For some manufacturing that does not make sustain the eonomy, like making slippers, of course give it to 3rd world countries like Singapore (still thinking of making slippers) and their leaders still dreaming that their country is a first world country and can write a book about it somemore no shame .... hahaha.

I seriously don't think you have any idea what you are talking about. SG manaufacturing have always been higher level manufacturing. Not Clothes and Slipper production.
 
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dankos

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Re: Support Mr. Tan Jee Say to become Singapore's President / Politician / Reformer!

fat ass,

of cos to u only pap endorsed dogs like yourself is good. fuck u!!!
 

hairylee

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Re: Support Mr. Tan Jee Say to become Singapore's President / Politician / Reformer!

Tan Jee Say is too technical to be a President.
We want a President who could sing song with us.
 
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