Straight From the Horse's Mouth - Orchard Rd Flood

[phouse3]

I am not the moderator.

Despite the precis, you are not convincing. You guys screwed up and need to get your your act your together. It cannot bouncle from a clogged debris at Stamford Canal for the first incidetn to a prolonged silence for the next 2 events. Either you guys are lost, have really no idea what is the causing the incidents or have great difficult accepting that barrage has a part to play in this.

Suggest that you avoid evasive and unrelated comments. Unless there is record high rainfall which is unexcepted etc. do not bring in global warming and other issues which merely deflects the concerns and queries. And you are talking about dishonesty.

Lastly do no worry about my dishonesty or any other attributes. This again avoids addressing the subject at hand and very evasive. You can take it that my character is highly flawed, unreliable and god knows what. Just try to convince other in this forum what you think are the issues causing the Orchard Rd flood.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=66815

The one who is evasive is YOU! The person masturbating about Global Warming is YOU! I am the one who thinks it is crap.

You are disgustingly dishonest.

If you are not the moderator, you should ask Sam Leong to remove the status.

 

[scroobal]

Then issue at hand is what caused the new flood hotspot in Orchard Road. The earlier silence and the difficulty in getting an answer after the clogged debris comment from PUB is interesting and yet revealing.

Water and flood management is always difficult. I am sure that we do not want to see property damage to this extent just to contain water for consumption. Dry countries have had desalination plants for decades. We are surrounded by sea. These is just one alternative.

What will therefore happen if we pump out the water and then we hit a dry spell? Would you want to go from flooding to water rationing for our ever growing population

 

[scroobal]

Still not addressing the issue. Lost for words, no more long winded essays. Ad Hominem comments are diversionary at best. Looks silly to talk about moderator status rather the issue.

ps. write to sam on my behalf. I have done that before.

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?t=66815

The one who is evasive is YOU! The person masturbating about Global Warming is YOU! I am the one who thinks it is crap.

You are disgustingly dishonest.

If you are not the moderator, you should ask Sam Leong to remove the status.

 

[Baroko]

You sure sound dishonest and bitchy for a moderator.

The barrage (including the closed top gates) catches water and very effectively, resulting in high water level. Masturbating and blaming the opened barrage gates not releasing water fast enough is a totally different matter. I am telling you people it was not the problem.

Dude,
Before you begin to try to tell us anything with authority please identify yourself and show us your credentials. Hiding behind a moniker alike phouse3 (polluted house?) doesn't help.

 

[phouse3]

Still not addressing the issue. Lost for words, no more long winded essays. Ad Hominem comments are diversionary at best. Looks silly to talk about moderator status rather the issue.

ps. write to sam on my behalf. I have done that before.

As noted by you, I mostly write "long winded essays" or about the subject. Even when I reciprocate your bitching, I embed it with "long winded essays". Look at my post at 9.14 PM.

Surely you know how to click on my profile to read my "long winded essays", right?

If you think my essays are long-winded, why want me to repeat them here?

The No. 1 BS of cyberspace is you. I often wonder if you get any prizes or any thrills? It's quite enigmatic to me. Maybe I am too mature to know.

 

[scroobal]

More so when the GE is due. The confidence and friendly media show by PUB after the 1st incident and the prolonged silence shows poor form in terms of leadership. Even Lui, a cabinet minister had to get into the fray for an explanation.

That is why I've said before, never trust a politician. All politicians are the same. They will say whatever there is for them to remains in power.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Phouse

We are seeing a step by step strip tease from Yacob or facts and more facts which beget more and more questions. First it was leaves then it was not the leaves, for June.....how about July ?

At the end of the day no one dares or refuses to question the marine barrage :_)). Simply put its not how fast the water flows out from the marine barrage through pumps or gates, rather its how fast the water flowed out without the barrage versus with the barrage.

If the water flow rate, into the barrage is to slow, then no amount of widening will do m further more the flow is from a low lying area into an area above sea level, if that does not slow the flow in and also the flow out I do not know what will.



Locke

 

[phouse3]

Dude,
Before you begin to try to tell us anything with authority please identify yourself and show us your credentials. Hiding behind a moniker alike phouse3 (polluted house?) doesn't help.

I express my personal opinion like anybody else. I use a moniker like anybody else. What makes you think I am writing with authority or pretend to be someone of authority? What do you mean by hiding behind a moniker?

I didn't know I must have credentials or show credentials in order to post here. I thought even an 8-year-old could participate in this forum.

Are you hinting I am spoiling your chances of attacking whoever is responsible for the Marina Barrage. I am sorry, unlike you, I do not have vested interest. It is Scroobal who, as the master of distraction, addresses me as "you guys". If you fell for it, then blame your own stupidity.

Let me re-iterate, I write in my capacity and am not a member of any opposition party or the establishment. Frankly, I have a very low opinion of the opposition parties.

Perhaps you may want Sam Leong to state the conditions for posting. I am quite happy to quit this forum as I can join any forum without these retarded conditions.

 

[wahlaneh]

wahlaneh...
while they are still talking shiok shiok in aircon parliament...
the rain n flood issues still unresolved.

 

[Leongsam]

Perhaps you may want Sam Leong to state the conditions for posting.

There are no conditions for posting. All I have ever asked for is for members to post their messages in the correct sub forum.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

what do you expect from a keling supremacist/ opportunist? ever since he kena fcuked by jah-rastafar-i in a previous thread, he's been disparately trying to salvage his reputation. he twists and turns as much as the PAP, he spent too much time in the system. he's def an ex/current employee of the civil service.

I like that apt description you gave of screwball. The worst thing is he isn't keling or at least he claims that he is chinese.

 

[Glaringly]

Let's take a step back, pause for a moment and ask.

The marina Barrage is commissioned in 1 Nov 2008, so it is 20 full months before the 1st Orchard road floods, thereafter we have 3 major floods recorded within a month.

1. Are there any recorded floods during these months?
2. At least 3 monsoon have passed during these months, are there heavy rains like these seen during those months.
3. What are major projects, beside Marina, were completed or underway during the last 20 months that could be in any way contribute to the flooding?
4. What is the water level of the Marina Barrage before the first flooding occur?
5. Are there any major reconfiguration of our canals after the completion of the Marina Barrage?

 

[Semaj2357]

More so when the GE is due. The confidence and friendly media show by PUB after the 1st incident and the prolonged silence shows poor form in terms of leadership. Even Lui, a cabinet minister had to get into the fray for an explanation.

When Lui asked the PUB specifically for an explanation, two issues arose:-

1. Knowing full well that the buck stops with yakult, why was there a need for the pub ceo to issue one? Perhaps to limit the damage when the ceo previously said that the clogged drains was the cause and it now comes back to bite him?

2. Was it because he and his wife were affected, hence the irritant in showing disrespect and given up hope that yakult is not up to the mark? Interesting....

 

[chewed]

More so when the GE is due. The confidence and friendly media show by PUB after the 1st incident and the prolonged silence shows poor form in terms of leadership. Even Lui, a cabinet minister had to get into the fray for an explanation.

so if Admiral Lui wasn't inconvenient by the floods on saturday, he would have kept quiet......??

 

[jw5]

When Lui asked the PUB specifically for an explanation, two issues arose:-

1. Knowing full well that the buck stops with yakult, why was there a need for the pub ceo to issue one? Perhaps to limit the damage when the ceo previously said that the clogged drains was the cause and it now comes back to bite him?

2. Was it because he and his wife were affected, hence the irritant in showing disrespect and given up hope that yakult is not up to the mark? Interesting....

It wouldn't be surprising if he was "nominated" as the person to ask the question.
Do you think he would dare take the initiative to ask such a question even if he was personally inconvenienced?

They have done this circus act many times in the past. Get someone (rank would depend on how seriously they view the problem) to ask the responsible ministar, the responsible ministar would ask the responsible civil servant, the responsible civil servant would provide a long winded and convoluted explanation which only the "super-talented" can comprehend, the responsible ministar would agree with the explanation and promise to do better, the original person asking would thank the responsible ministar for the explanation and promise, the prime ministar would praise everyone for a job well done.

One big full circle. Nothing we have not heard before. A severe case of dejavunitis.

 

[Spock]

No need to talk so much. If they claim that it is not due to Marina Barrage, just ask them for the studies conducted to prove it. Same thing if they claim it is some other cause, ask them for scientific proof, not just anyhow plucking statements from the air.

 

[johnny333]

There are no conditions for posting. All I have ever asked for is for members to post their messages in the correct sub forum.

And to mind your "advice" from "advise"

 

[Semaj2357]

It wouldn't be surprising if he was "nominated" as the person to ask the question.
Do you think he would dare take the initiative to ask such a question even if he was personally inconvenienced?

They have done this circus act many times in the past. Get someone (rank would depend on how seriously they view the problem) to ask the responsible ministar, the responsible ministar would ask the responsible civil servant, the responsible civil servant would provide a long winded and convoluted explanation which only the "super-talented" can comprehend, the responsible ministar would agree with the explanation and promise to do better, the original person asking would thank the responsible ministar for the explanation and promise, the prime ministar would praise everyone for a job well done.

One big full circle. Nothing we have not heard before. A severe case of dejavunitis.

Yes, I think so too, as they definitely know how the cookie crumbles. I was just hoping that Lui got his bollocks wet and let fly at yakult's incompetance. As yet, no word from pub, so lui should watch some porn and wank
Well known for this sort of circus / antics is none other than the jamban queen...

 

[phouse3]

Dear Phouse

We are seeing a step by step strip tease from Yacob or facts and more facts which beget more and more questions. First it was leaves then it was not the leaves, for June.....how about July ?

At the end of the day no one dares or refuses to question the marine barrage :_)). Simply put its not how fast the water flows out from the marine barrage through pumps or gates, rather its how fast the water flowed out without the barrage versus with the barrage.

If the water flow rate, into the barrage is to slow, then no amount of widening will do m further more the flow is from a low lying area into an area above sea level, if that does not slow the flow in and also the flow out I do not know what will.

Locke

You should realise by now that water itself is an obstacle. When a faster stream meets a slower stream , water gets stuck and that's how flood occurs. You don't always have to think of leaves.

I just can't stop repeating that you cannot always assume the water level is up to the brim. We will be drawing water next year. Perhaps then it makes sense to you about widening the drainage downstream.

The current set of parameters are transient and abnormal in nature. We are in the transitional period between the completion of the Barrage and the expiry of the First Water Agreement. You should look further at a more permanent and normal set of parameters.

The Stamford Canals were 10/10 super-suckers up to 2 years ago. Now, they are not. But please ask yourself this honest question: Is there any possibility they will become super-suckers (maybe not 10/10) again from next year onwards?

 

[fukyuman]

Looks like novel solutions are needed. Like divert Singapore River away from barrage. Singapore river is much smaller than Kallang river anyway.

Dig deeper. But dig too deep and Sands Casinos might just topple over. But then Hell might just be flooded so old man won't have to go there when he dies.

Convert the Eye into a giant windmill to pump out water. Another world wonder.

Short term is simply to declare any water discussions as act of sedition.