"Stop Abuse of NSFs" - Possible HLP Protest Topic?

[TracyTan866]

The PAP, Minister of Defence, SAF and Mindef must be brought to task for the abuse of NSFs.

SG guys do NS to protect SG and Singaporeans. But NSFs and NSmen have been abused by PAP and the SAF. Some abuses are:

1. NS for Singaporeans, jobs for foreigners

2. NSmen are discriminated against by employers because they have to do their ICTs

3. NSFs and NSmen are used as free labour to help PAP-connected guys profit from their businesses. Ong Beng Seng was able to get the Minister of Defence and the SAF to send in NSFs to do car park duties, logistics duty, security duties during F1 races. F1 is a commercial business and the pap and SAF shd never allow NSFs to be abused as free labour to help OBS make money. OBS shd employ commercial security guards, commercial logistics people etc during F1 and not get free labour from the SAF. SG sons do NS to protect SG and Singaporeans, not free labour to pap connected businessmen. How could the Minister of Defence and the SAF accede to OBS' request? It's an abuse of NSFs. It demeans NS.

4. The pap has allowed NS to degenerate to the extent that SG guys are discriminated against in SG and NSFs and NSmen are abused by the pap and SAF.

All Singaporeans have a son, husband, father or relative who is an NSF or NSmen. Everyone of us must speak up against the pap and the SAF for this abuse of NS and NSFs.

I hope that Gilbert considers the next protest topic to be "Stop Abuse of NSFs/NSmen". If Gilbert wants, I am willing to speak at the rally.

 

[looneytan]

I hope that TracyTan considers the next protest topic to be "Stop Abuse of NSFs/NSmen". If Tracy wants, I am willing to speak at the rally

 

[TracyTan866]

I hope that TracyTan considers the next protest topic to be "Stop Abuse of NSFs/NSmen". If Tracy wants, I am willing to speak at the rally

hahaha...pity I am not Gilbert Goh. Otherwise I will seriously consider and maybe select "Abuse of NS" as the next topic at HLP.

I was an audience on 16 feb and am willing to move on to the stage at the next rally

 

[Leongsam]

You have not done NS so you are in no position to pass judgement. NS is about duty, honor and country.

I did 2.5 years plus a full 13 year cycle. I have never been abused. Every single time I put on my uniform, I was proud to serve my country and the issue of money has never even crossed my mind. Every day, every hour and every minute of my time was an investment in the security of my beloved nation.

You should go to some other forum where the subject matter is more suited to your intellect.

 

[TracyTan866]

You have not done NS so you are in no position to pass judgement. NS is about duty, honor and country.

I did 2.5 years plus a full 13 year cycle. I have never been abused. Every single time I put on my uniform, I was proud to serve my country and the issue of money has never even crossed my mind. Every day, every hour and every minute of my time was an investment in the security of my beloved nation.

You should go to some other forum where the subject matter is more suited to your intellect.

As a Singaporean I am qualified and entitled to speak up against PAP, TCH, NEH and the SAF who and which abused NSFs and NSmen and which favours foreigners to Singaporeans in SG.

As a Singaporean, I intend to hold the PAP and the Minister of Defence responsible for allowing NSFs to be used as free labour to favour their cronies' businesses which have nothing to do with SG's defence.

Unlike you, I bet NEH is struggling with such unwise decisions made by his predeccesor and is doing damage control. I bet NEH will not make the same mistake again. I also bet the SAF will not dare send in NSFs as free lbour to favour some busineeses from now on

 

[TracyTan866]

You have not done NS so you are in no position to pass judgement. NS is about duty, honor and country.

I did 2.5 years plus a full 13 year cycle. I have never been abused. Every single time I put on my uniform, I was proud to serve my country and the issue of money has never even crossed my mind. Every day, every hour and every minute of my time was an investment in the security of my beloved nation.

You should go to some other forum where the subject matter is more suited to your intellect.

You are unable to counter my points..You are like the pap who challenged Singaporeans to leave Singapore and migrate if they are not happy. How narrow minded these PAPs are. This is Singapore and I am a Singaporean. If I am against PAP policies, why shd I migrate. I choose to stay and speak against the pap.

 

[TracyTan866]

You have not done NS so you are in no position to pass judgement. NS is about duty, honor and country.

I did 2.5 years plus a full 13 year cycle. I have never been abused. Every single time I put on my uniform, I was proud to serve my country and the issue of money has never even crossed my mind. Every day, every hour and every minute of my time was an investment in the security of my beloved nation.

You should go to some other forum where the subject matter is more suited to your intellect.

I am not interested in you. I am interested in what the PAP did to NSFs who were asked to be free labour for OBS' F1 races. Why shdnt OBS use cpmmercial security guards and commercial storemen at F1 races?

Who was the one approved using NSFs as free labour at F1 races? Shdnt he be brought to task?

I want to see whether SAF NSFs are used as free labour at the next F1

 

[Leongsam]

You are unable to counter my points..You are like the pap who challenged Singaporeans to leave Singapore and migrate if they are not happy. How narrow minded these PAPs are. This is Singapore and I am a Singaporean. If I am against PAP policies, why shd I migrate. I choose to stay and speak against the pap.

There is nothing to counter. Until you have walked in the boots of an NS man and experienced first hand what goes through the mind of a loyal soldier who is proud of his country, you have no credibility when it comes to this subject.

Men cannot comment on the sacrifices and joys of childbirth. The same applies with women and NS.

 

[lianbeng]

lianbeng is all for women to do NS by 18 years old same as all guys.

 

[TracyTan866]

There is nothing to counter. Until you have walked in the boots of an NS man and experienced first hand what goes through the mind of a loyal soldier who is proud of his country, you have no credibility when it comes to this subject.

Men cannot comment on the sacrifices and joys of childbirth. The same applies with women and NS.

I guess the topic is beyond you.

So I will give you an easy point to comment - Can you comment on SAF sending in NSFs as free labour for OBS' F1 races?

 

[TracyTan866]

lianbeng is all for women to do NS by 18 years old same as all guys.

I agree..SG gals can perform NS in SAF, MOH , etc

 

[TracyTan866]

lianbeng is all for women to do NS by 18 years old same as all guys.

I recommend that all Singaporeans...SG guys, SG gals and new citizens do NS.

Does the pap have the political courage to implement this?

 

[eatshitndie]

Can you comment on SAF sending in NSFs as free labour for OBS' F1 races?

it's not just "obs' f1 races." it is jointly signed by the sg authorities, f1 and sg gp pte. ltd. since the sg authorities are in it, they can suka suka leverage manpower to assist with the event.

 

[eatshitndie]

I agree..SG gals can perform NS in SAF, MOH , etc

please make it retroactive for those over 36.

 

[Leongsam]

it's not just "obs' f1 races." it is jointly signed by the sg authorities, f1 and sg gp pte. ltd. since the sg authorities are in it, they can suka suka leverage manpower to assist with the event.

... and being the loyal soldier that I am, I'd be only too happy to help out in any event that involves Singapore Inc.

When Singapore Inc wins, so do I. It's a symbiotic relationship.

 

[Leongsam]

please make it retroactive for those over 36.

It's not too late. She can still volunteer.

 

[eatshitndie]

It's not too late. She can still volunteer.

crickets will still be chirping.

 

[TracyTan866]

it's not just "obs' f1 races." it is jointly signed by the sg authorities, f1 and sg gp pte. ltd. since the sg authorities are in it, they can suka suka leverage manpower to assist with the event.

no, I disagree with you...NS is for the protection of SG and Singaporeans. It's not free labour to be abused by the pap

 

[eatshitndie]

... and being the loyal soldier that I am, I'd be only too happy to help out in any event that involves Singapore Inc.

When Singapore Inc wins, so do I. It's a symbiotic relationship.

and i would rather volunteer at the f1 races than hanging around camp waiting for orders.

 

[TracyTan866]

please make it retroactive for those over 36.

i am for what you said. but the pap doesnt have the moral courage to do so