CSM will not meet the qualification for EP. No opposition politician past or present meets the qualifying criteria. The potential is going to be very small. The Govt will have persuade their candidates of choice early and groom him. Nathan has already given them fair indication that there are others like him who consider it a "duty" to the nation.
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Serious Start Catch Chen Show Mao sacked from being the Workers' Party's (WP) treasurer
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Chen is unlikely to remain in a position where there is little or no hope. He would better off standing as an independent if he has to leave WP. SDP baggage is not worth the trouble. It is also common knowledge that Chee has tight control and people of substance have left the party with exception of PT after each and every election. Note there is no Chinese of sufficient stature in SDP. Quite a feat when Chinese make up 70% over of the population.
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For the long-term good of Singapore and Singaporeans, I think a merger of the WP and the SDP will definitely form a formidable dream opposition team.
In my opinion, CSM and CSJ will complement each other very well. CSM's "Chinese-ness" and CSJ's "English-ness" combined will form a very balanced team.
I begged to differ. With an egoistic fuck like Chee, SDP will bring down WP faster than you can say Methulusah. LTK will barely tolerate Chee's presence.
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Chee's political trustworthiness was long over when he took over SDP frm Chiam. To every man on the street, the SDP political party and logo still belong's to Chiam.
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SDP is a loser party that cannot make it. A growing number of people are tired of the Liberals for all the harm they have caused through their idealism - Europe mass migration issues, high crime rate, untackled islamic terrorism, frequent budget deficits from overly generous spending, lack of basic understanding of human nature
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Nothing beats the 800k dustbin approve by PAP.
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Not cut out to be an oppo politician? That's rather disingenuous, seeing that it came from someone who once insinuated that CSM was a PAP mole, during GE 2011.
No wonder people call you a fake oppo.
But the village gossip got it wrong this time, sorry. All speeches are vetted. That's how tigtt the control is. This is from a WP insider; not my opinion nor the rumour mill.
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Thats rubbish. All speeches are circulated to the group and not vetted by LTK as claimed by you. You are now being dishonest.
Circulation of speeches is common sense so as to ensure that there is no duplication, no deviation from the subject at hand. On major issue, MPs are given specific area to cover and they then draft out there speeches. Suggestion will flow, amendments are made.
Go read Chen maiden speech and he has never deviated from his style both in subsequent speeches in Parliament or elsewhere. I am actually amazed that the Party did not do more to address his issue. None of his speeches comes close to any from his colleagues or any main stream optician in Singapore or elsewhere.
Some one must have though you are gullible enough to believe this diatribe and led you by the nose.
Circulation of speeches is common sense so as to ensure that there is no duplication, no deviation from the subject at hand. On major issue, MPs are given specific area to cover and they then draft out there speeches. Suggestion will flow, amendments are made.
Go read Chen maiden speech and he has never deviated from his style both in subsequent speeches in Parliament or elsewhere. I am actually amazed that the Party did not do more to address his issue. None of his speeches comes close to any from his colleagues or any main stream optician in Singapore or elsewhere.
Some one must have though you are gullible enough to believe this diatribe and led you by the nose.
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Now you are accusing a senior party member of lying. Talk about being dishonest. Your fake oppo slip is showing again.
By the way, stop stalking me. I thought you'd stopped that obsessive habit long ago. Anyway, I'm rather disinclined to argue with someone who can't tell the difference between 'socialist' and 'social activist'.
Face it, political analysis is not your forte. Stick to what you do best: dishing out the dirt on Nathan's underwear. Makes for lively reading on a slow day.
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Being an MP in an opposition party is troublesome business and a very bad deal. Can't imagine why Mao would enjoy this sort of masochism.
Do u noe in the PAP, the Boss uses the whip on his MP if its not done to his shiokness!
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They are not lying, they are making fun of you by spinning something so ridiculous. Chen would never accept such conditions or being made a dud like that. I am sure you would not tolerate such nonsense from LTK. Any person lesser than Chen would have walked from day 1. Your comment cast such poor light on Chen that beyond ridiculous.
I can see that you have been taken for a ride.
I can see that you have been taken for a ride.
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Don't be silly. Even Presidential candidate Trump now has his speech vetted and reads from the teleprompter. Just back off. Mao has resigned as Treasurer for reasons that are best known to him, certainly not for something as trivial as being muzzled as yellowarse would suggest.
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Stop foaming at the mouth. Your tired insults are wearing thin. I'd have you're a woman if I hadn't known who you are.
Well, I know the veracity of my source. If he's lying, then the integrity of the entire party is suspect, which is what you are disingenuously hinting at. BTW, it's a 'he', not 'they'.
You can continue living in your la-la land of hearsay, gossip and half-baked pseudo-analysis, but I'm calling you out on your fake oppo credentials. Do the forumers here a favour: stop your misinformation campaign, and go back to dishing out the juicy bits on fictitious Istana residents.
As for CSM, he can take care of himself, despite your attempts to smear him. Trust me, if you knew him in person you'd find him the diametric opposite of your caricaturistic portrait of him spun from rumour, half-truths and psychobabble. Use what little stuff between your ears to figure this out: why did CSM challenge for the party sec-gen post?
I stand by what I say. Now stop stalking me.
No one will believe that Chen would wilt in front of LTK as you claimed. In fact he challenged him during the last CEC. Its obvious that there is a rift but Chen blindly having his speeches vetted by LTK and asked to deliver it is truly far fetched. I am also sure that other MPs in the WP would have intervened or walked out of the Party if the claims by you are indeed correct. All political leaders have a strong element of control because it is the nature of politics and it can be ruthless but not the way you have described. Especially when it comes to Chen who also does not need the money from what he has accomplished.
My sense is that after 2 rounds and 6 years in the foray, he comes across more a pacifist than the type of politicians that we expect.
Frankly I think you were sold a pup.
My sense is that after 2 rounds and 6 years in the foray, he comes across more a pacifist than the type of politicians that we expect.
Frankly I think you were sold a pup.
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No one said anything about wilting; you did. You either stick with party discipline, no matter how draconian, leave the party or challenge the party leadership. When things are hunky dory, you stay on. When you lose your ward, the knives come out, the blame game starts, you make your move.
I stand by what I said. You too have said your piece. Now stop hounding me. I've neither jw5's patience nor his tenacity in dealing with fake oppo BS.
