SPP's DL & RP's KJ speak

[kingrant]

Mind if I know what is the point of this post with the link?

http://yoursda.weebly.com/index.html

 

[Perspective]

No, you didn't join NSP because there was any vacuum there to fill. You joined to fill the vacuum in you after you left WP. You became Sec-Gen because otherwise, you'd have resigned. Your vacuum couldn't be satisfactorily filled without that kind of position and authority to have your say counted with weightage, the exact reason why you left WP. NSP decided might as well let you be Sec-Gen since nobody else wanted it or have any personal political vacuum to fill anyway.

Politically, that's good for NSP, opposition and the nation in general. Only people who want and can should do it. Don't overdo the stuff about you don't want it but others need and persuade you to do it for the greater good or bigger picture. You'll sound more and more like Cao Cao claiming he didn't want to be King of Wei or Sima Zhao claiming that he didn't want usurp Wei. Even uneducated peasants need no schooling to see through it such that village proverbs were borne out of it.

Once politics is deep in your blood it's rather hard to dislodge it. I agree. It's in the blood of GMS, and for a good and not bad thing. I'm nearly certain that he'll be back in 2015 if he does not win in 2010/2011. But that would help us save some more experienced blood while new ones join in. In the same light, I hope CTL, Jaslyn Go, NEJ and Alex Tan and all those who are/were here in Sammyboy.com enter the election as opposition candidates. Let all seats be contested.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

You're being too kind to the people u mentioned.

As for GMS I can agree with you. Politics is for him. He is now behaving like Steve Chia ... going around proclaiming that if he does not get elected he will retire from politics forever and migrate to Hong Kong. I don't think he should, or will ever desire that. Once you're in the game, BINGO, you're hooked. You can never give it up.

As for the others u mentioned, you are way too kind. Let me give u two simple examples.

Take that NEJ character u mentioned. I assume you are referring to the NG EJay of Sgpolitics and who now call himself political desk editor of TOC. That is one guy who SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED to stand for election. If what i'm reading in this forum is true, that guy is a bloody maniac who has tons of dirt and skeletons which the PAP can easily use to discredit him. He is one person who will bring down the party he stands. He will be no different from Harbans Singh. OPPOSITION DOES NOT NEED THIS KIND OF TROUBLE RIGHT NOW. It is far better for NEJ to just stay behind the computer and rant away. MUCH BETTER for us all, if what I;m reading in this forum is EVEN half true.

Second example: Alex Tan. That guy is another loser. Full of theatrical stuff and fancy showmanship. Again, OPPOSITION don't need this character.

Why I go thru all the trouble mentioning this is because I don't feel we need ANY opposition per se. We need opposition of a certain minimum standard. I disagree with the notion that ANY opposition is GOOD. It is not.

Once politics is deep in your blood it's rather hard to dislodge it. I agree. It's in the blood of GMS, and for a good and not bad thing. I'm nearly certain that he'll be back in 2015 if he does not win in 2010/2011. But that would help us save some more experienced blood while new ones join in. In the same light, I hope CTL, Jaslyn Go, NEJ and Alex Tan and all those who are/were here in Sammyboy.com enter the election as opposition candidates. Let all seats be contested.

 

[Perspective]

You're being too kind to the people u mentioned.

As for GMS I can agree with you. Politics is for him. He is now behaving like Steve Chia ... going around proclaiming that if he does not get elected he will retire from politics forever and migrate to Hong Kong. I don't think he should, or will ever desire that. Once you're in the game, BINGO, you're hooked. You can never give it up.

As for the others u mentioned, you are way too kind. Let me give u two simple examples.

Take that NEJ character u mentioned. I assume you are referring to the NG EJay of Sgpolitics and who now call himself political desk editor of TOC. That is one guy who SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED to stand for election. If what i'm reading in this forum is true, that guy is a bloody maniac who has tons of dirt and skeletons which the PAP can easily use to discredit him. He is one person who will bring down the party he stands. He will be no different from Harbans Singh. OPPOSITION DOES NOT NEED THIS KIND OF TROUBLE RIGHT NOW. It is far better for NEJ to just stay behind the computer and rant away. MUCH BETTER for us all, if what I;m reading in this forum is EVEN half true.

Second example: Alex Tan. That guy is another loser. Full of theatrical stuff and fancy showmanship. Again, OPPOSITION don't need this character.

Why I go thru all the trouble mentioning this is because I don't feel we need ANY opposition per se. We need opposition of a certain minimum standard. I disagree with the notion that ANY opposition is GOOD. It is not.

Better to be kind than not You don't "lose" anything by being kind, but a lot for being unkind

I'm someone who believes that you can't get good opposition without electing some, even the "lousy" ones. When the people in a cause doesn't get elected the cause cannot serve the people, so people in the cause can only serve themselves, so if it seems to you that some people in the cause is self-serving, you have your answer. Hence I'm the kind who would vote even a cockroach if WP or SDA fields the 6 legged insect, even as I give some PAP MPs like Tharman, Balaji and Lily Neo utmost respect. For now, anyone under PAP won't get my vote until we see the end of a one-party dominant Parliament. Few realise that if only PAP captures the seat, there might as well not be election in the first place. So any opposition will do because they are the only ones.

I don't think you can compare Ng E-Jay with Harbans. You can read both of what they say and write. I still find Harbans unbelievable.

 

[scroobal]

I think many including those in PP and Hougang have followed voting the "bicycle theif" approach in the past. The candidates from PAP were much more formidable in paper and maybe in action as well. The desire to have a proper democracy motivated them and also to rebuff PAP style of politics. Your approach is nothing new nor novel. Only Yaw from WP didn't get it.

What Black Heart is saying is that there must be minimum standards when suggesting or seeking opposition candidates. No one with common sense or half a brain will endorse such characters as it makes a mockery of opposition in general. The trick is to keep the discourse or any discussion on new and potential candidates at a reasonable standards so that the "riff raff" in the words of their kin don't tarnish the genuine opposition by encouraging them into the fold while making sure no matter who is contesting that the PAP does not get our votes.

That's the trouble when your identity is known, the tendency is to butter people up just to stay on the right side is human nature or to even seek favours when someone close to you might be part of the contest. No many can be like GMS.

Better to be kind than not You don't "lose" anything by being kind, but a lot for being unkind

 

[fivestars]

Propose for the Union


The Party Shall:-

Vision: Form an alliance government in parliament

Mission: Form an alliance party to contest in general elections

The Party Shall Declaration that the aims and purposes of the party:

(1) To accelerate Political Growth, Social Awareness and Political Power sharing in our General Elections and Parliament House.
(2) To promote political peace and stability through abiding respect for justice and the rule of law in the relationship among political parties.
(3) To agreed on a concert of Singaporean outward looking, living in peace, stability and prosperity, bonded together in dynamic development and in one united nation of caring societies.

The Members have to adopt the following fundamental principles in their relations with one another:

1) mutual respect for the Aim, Vision, Mission, Objective, Principle, Election Manifesto, Integrity, Equality and Party Identity of all parties;
2) the right of every party executive council to lead its party existence free from external interference, subversion or coercion;
3) non-interference in the internal affairs of one another;
4) settlement of differences or disputes by peaceful manner;
5) renunciation of the threat or use of force;
6) effective cooperation among themselves.
7) each party member had the right to switch among the component parties (Democracy and Human Right)

The new elected SDA CEC to approval the SMC and GRC contesting Blue Print.

Chairman of SDA: Mr Sebastian Teo

Deputy Chairman: Edmund Ng

Vice Chairman: Christopher Neo Ting Wei

Vice Chairman: Sin Kek Tong

Secretary General: Kenneth Andrew Jeyaretnam

Deputy Secretary General: Goh Meng Seng

Assistant Secretary General: Steve Chia Kiah Hong

Assistant Secretary General: Yip Yew Weng

 

[Ramseth]

The new elected SDA CEC to approval the SMC and GRC contesting Blue Print.

Chairman of SDA: Mr Sebastian Teo

Deputy Chairman: Edmund Ng

Vice Chairman: Christopher Neo Ting Wei

Vice Chairman: Sin Kek Tong

Secretary General: Kenneth Andrew Jeyaretnam

Deputy Secretary General: Goh Meng Seng

Assistant Secretary General: Steve Chia Kiah Hong

Assistant Secretary General: Yip Yew Weng

Is this an overriding coup or what? Where's Chiam See Tong and Desmond Lim? Put Edmund Ng and Goh Meng Seng together is like fusing Uranium-235.

 

[fivestars]

SDA main goal was to work towards re-merger with Malaysia. Not because Mr Chiam See Tong is a MP of Singapore

Edmund Ng and Goh Meng Seng are not represent personal view but party view now. SDA, RP and NSP

The RP not belong to Edmund Ng but party members

The NSP not belong to Goh Meng Seng but party members

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

SDA main goal was to work towards re-merger with Malaysia. Not because Mr Chiam See Tong is a MP of Singapore

Can you fucking shut your cheebye mouth?

 

[fivestars]

Can you fucking shut your cheebye mouth?

PAP model with Malaysia in 1963 was Federal government like USA.

Mr Chiam See Tong SDA Economy Union with Malaysia is like EU model

It is not my idea. It is Mr Chiam idea. You want Mr Chiam to shut the mouth?

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Stop blabbering nonsense, Anthony Ng Chiew Kiat!

PAP model with Malaysia in 1963 was Federal government like USA.

Mr Chiam See Tong SDA Economy Union with Malaysia is like EU model

It is not my idea. It is Mr Chiam idea. You want Mr Chiam to shut the mouth?

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

No, you didn't join NSP because there was any vacuum there to fill. You joined to fill the vacuum in you after you left WP. You became Sec-Gen because otherwise, you'd have resigned. Your vacuum couldn't be satisfactorily filled without that kind of position and authority to have your say counted with weightage, the exact reason why you left WP. NSP decided might as well let you be Sec-Gen since nobody else wanted it or have any personal political vacuum to fill anyway.

Well, believe it or not, that is not my intention. I am always comfortable to be just a team player.

There is no vacuum but pure freedom when you are not in any political party.

Anyway, since I take up this SG post, I will just have to do my job.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[scroobal]

You forgot the appropriate salutation for his qualification.

Stop blabbering nonsense, Anthony Ng Chiew Kiat!

 

[fivestars]

Is this an overriding coup or what? Where's Chiam See Tong and Desmond Lim? Put Edmund Ng and Goh Meng Seng together is like fusing Uranium-235.

Chiam is like LKY. He will be in CEC but he is the mentor of SDA Chairman and SDA MP.


If Desmond represent SPP. He can be Key Person in SDA like Treasurer. Opposition is weak in fund. To be a Finance Chief is not easy too.

 

[Sima Yi]

Happy National Day to all.

 

[fivestars]

Stop blabbering nonsense, Anthony Ng Chiew Kiat!

Will Desmond Lim sold his house like our NSP SG Mr Goh Meng Seng to funding SDA for contest next GE?

We respect our SG Mr Goh Meng Seng funding NSP to contest next GE.