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SPP's DL & RP's KJ speak

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PRESS RELEASE BY DESMOND LIM BAK CHUAN

There have been several media reports on the SPP's Ordinary Party Conference (OPC) that took place on 25 Jul 2010. I would like to address some of the key issues that have arisen so that we can have some form of clarity and hopefully closure. The party can then collectively move on to meet the important challenges ahead of us.

DIFFERENCES AND REGRET

I agree with media reports the unpleasantness that arose from the SPP OPC was attributed to the RP-SDA merger proposal. It was primarily due to differences in perspective on the future direction for SDA. It was unfortunate that these differences allowed themselves to manifest at the SPP OPC in the form of groups trying to garner as much local support as possible to buttress their respective viewpoints and position.

All organisations have disagreement among its members. SPP is not excluded. Disagreements are in fact healthy because it represents a diversity of views.

The issue is how we manage these differences and personally, I concede that proceedings of the recent OPC could have been better tempered with discretion and goodwill. I apologise that I had a part in contributing to the acrimonious atmosphere.

I joined the SPP about a month before the 1997 General Elections. Since then, I have been working diligently with Mr Chiam as a party colleague and personal friend in the SPP. Even though we have differences in views, let me affirm that my respect for Mr Chiam has not wavered.

I will henceforth endeavor to play my part in future to enhance cohesion and teamwork within the party. As such, I would also want to clearly affirm that I have no intentions of leaving the SPP. I have dedicated 14 years to the party and through thick and thin, have grown a great affection for it.

MY PERSONAL ASPIRATION VIS-A-VIS POTONG PASIR

Let me also give some clarity on my personal political aspirations.
I have been consistently clear that I intend to contest in the Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC. This will not change for the coming GE. As for Potong Pasir, I will leave it to CEC to collectively make a decision on who will take Mr Chiam's place in the coming GE, should he decides to contest elsewhere.

Since the Potong Pasir constituency is central to the party, I will personally provide my support to whichever member the CEC decides upon to contest it.

The Potong Pasir residents', the party's and Oppostion's interests are above all else. If the party so decides that Mrs Chiam will represent SPP in Potong Pasir, I will also give my wholehearted support to her too.

MERGER WITH RP

However, let me now go back to one other important and unresolved issue. I continue to hold firmly to the view that the conditions attached to the “merger” with the Reform Party (RP) would have been detrimental to the political future of SDA. The lop-sided conditions do not form an equitable, healthy and fair basis for a relationship between the two political entities. However, I am in principle not against the idea of an alliance with RP.

I agree with Mr and Mrs Chiam that there would be benefits for SDA to co-operate closely with RP not just for the coming election, but even on a longer term basis. It can come in the form of RP formally joining the Alliance, or both can work towards a “looser” form of collaboration. It would then allow us to tap on the strengths of both sides and work towards a common goal of offering an effective and credible alternative voice in Parliament.

Towards that, I suggest that both sides immediately form a joint working committee comprising members from both RP and SDA to discuss and propose some viable options. The recommendations will be then presented to the respective SEC/CECs for their approval. Otherwise we can have some further iterations until we come to a mutual consensus.

Both sides must be willing to compromise. The target is to achieve a win-win arrangement for all parties.
From the SDA, I will make sure that all the component parties are well represented in these deliberations so that their interests are also safeguarded. By doing so, we are adhering to the underpinning principles of the Alliance, and should RP join us eventually, it should respect this as well.

If we are able bring forth the entry of RP into the SDA through a proper process of discussions, consultations and the exercise of some level of flexibility and accommodation, then this model can be used to further expand the SDA and form an adequate basis for a United Opposition.

Thank you.

Desmond Lim Bak Chuan

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I see the statement as more of a reflection of Mr Lim's position within his own party rather than as a comment on any proposed alliance. But it is welcome, as any movement is positive.

However , for the record let me state that there is no..., was never and will never, be any talk of a merger from the Reform Party. In my opinion the term merger was a fiction put about in the in the interests of scaremongering. Quote marks are used around 'merger' in this release no doubt because neither side has ever discussed the concept. I have made clear in writing, on several occasions, our policies on the subject of unity and coalition and alliances and how they differ in every fundamental to mergers. Our position is crystal clear.

Furthermore for the record, RP has never expressed any interest whatsoever, in using SDA resources. Indeed we do not quite see how we would be able to have access to them? Again this was scaremongering put about in the interest of discrediting RP and its motivation for wanting greater unity .

Finally, I am unaware of any set of 'conditions' or 'demands'. I am aware of a document purportedly written by our CEC and allegedly leaked to the press- but so far no member of the journalistic profession, neither main stream SPH employee nor new- media has taken the step of showing me that document and verifying its contents and authorship. Until that step is taken it cannot be viewed as a genuine document.

During a negotiation, proposals are made and in the normal course of events counter proposals are presented. Proposals and counter proposals are than usually evaluated in terms of agreeable, completely unacceptable and needing further discussion. I am happy to say that prior to Mr Lim's Desmond's most recent release I was already in possession of a recent letter from Mr Chiam outlining suggested counter proposals to our most recent proposals. None of these suggested counter proposals seem, at first reading, to be unreasonable or unworkable. in fact several are very encouraging.

At our last Members meeting I gained my membership's permission to continue negotiating with the SDA and that is what I have been doing and will continue to do on behalf of the party.

Let's not run around in different directions like ants. Let's all work together towards forming an alternative government in waiting. Together we can make it right for Singapore!

Kenneth Jeyaretnam
 
Where did you get KJ's comment from? I cannot see it on Desmond's FB post...

Goh Meng Seng
 
That's a mighty piece of coherent and persuasive writing.

All along, DL has maintained to the Chinese press that he would be defending Punggol-Pasir. It is the detractors that are accusing him of eyeing Potong Pasir. The 2 may sound like but they are miles apart.
 
That's a mighty piece of coherent and persuasive writing.

All along, DL has maintained to the Chinese press that he would be defending Punggol-Pasir. It is the detractors that are accusing him of eyeing Potong Pasir. The 2 may sound like but they are miles apart.

Don't think the accusations was so much about him aiming to take over PP, but to take over SDA. He would accept if Chiam had selected him (who wouldn't) but knowing what's going on inside I have strong reasons to believe he would have known he would not be selected.
 
Don't think the accusations was so much about him aiming to take over PP, but to take over SDA. He would accept if Chiam had selected him (who wouldn't) but knowing what's going on inside I have strong reasons to believe he would have known he would not be selected.

It can't be true you know the psyche of DL better than the man himself, can it?

It was SPP's OPC, not SDA's.

As if trying to prove my point that the detractors are portraying DL as someone with a selfish agenda, you up the ante by portraying him as someone with a bigger agenda.

Although DL is the SG of SDA, you mustn't forget there are 3 component parties. Have you seen/heard PKMS/SJP at the meetings/joint walkabouts?

Although DL is speaking in first person capacity, the extremely well-thought-out press release suggests it might be the effort of at least a partial CEC in savaging the reputation of SPP.
 
RP & NSP joining SDA? Any possibility of that happening, ah goh? :confused:
 
Let the matters rest. Both letters are positive. Election is coming, forming an alternative government is more crucial than petty loggerhead, unless alternative parties have no ambition and prefer to remain status quo.
 
RP & NSP joining SDA? Any possibility of that happening, ah goh? :confused:

NSP has left SDA for certain reasons. But NSP has tried to convince SPP that a merger into SDA would be the right path. Apparently, that didn't materialize.

NSP has since moved on from there. It would take a greater reason for NSP to consider to re-join SDA again. I am not saying it is totally impossible but it would be very challenging indeed.

But let's see what happens to RP-SDA alliance.

Goh Meng Seng
 
NSP has left SDA for certain reasons. But NSP has tried to convince SPP that a merger into SDA would be the right path.

No wonder you're NSP Sec-Gen and SAF Cpt. This country we don't want to invade but encourage you to invade, good for you. This alliance we don't want to join but encourage you to join, good for you. Well done! :D

NSP has since moved on from there. It would take a greater reason for NSP to consider to re-join SDA again. I am not saying it is totally impossible but it would be very challenging indeed.

In politicese language, "very challenging" means space shuttle Challenger. :eek:
 
Alternative Parties (AP) interested in making real changes to the country will do well by banding together.

APs and their supporters should also refrain from posting about party issues outside of their own Websites. All this posts about so and so wanting this and that only helps the PAPies. If you are a true supporter, talk about your party's exploits and issues not about individuals and what not. You guys sound like a group of nannies gossiping with each other except that you're doing it in public.

Learn to have some control and have respect for those that you talk about in public. It is graciousness and it is required.

With a united AP force and one that is overtly confident, we can be assured of a huge swing in the votes. Nobody wants to vote for a loser or someone that thinks they can't win or for someone that only wants to do his or her part to make a small difference.

The people are losing their jobs, homes and their self-worth. They are looking for a leader and a group of people to make the changes.

If you cannot fathom winning an election or making a real difference by being a leader then please step aside so as not to ruin the chances of your colleagues, your party and the AP as a whole.

The next GE is a battle for Singapore for true Singaporeans by true Singaporeans. There is no good option other than to fight to win.

Merdeka from PAP! Merdeka for Singapore! :)
 
It can't be true you know the psyche of DL better than the man himself, can it?

It was SPP's OPC, not SDA's.

As if trying to prove my point that the detractors are portraying DL as someone with a selfish agenda, you up the ante by portraying him as someone with a bigger agenda.

Although DL is the SG of SDA, you mustn't forget there are 3 component parties. Have you seen/heard PKMS/SJP at the meetings/joint walkabouts?

Although DL is speaking in first person capacity, the extremely well-thought-out press release suggests it might be the effort of at least a partial CEC in savaging the reputation of SPP.

If you take it that I am saying it in negative light. The fact is, there is nothing wrong with aiming for power, and Mrs Chiam also has a part to play in DL's averse reaction. The only precise correction I would make is, DL already has control over SDA and is aiming for SPP next. Info has it that PKMS and SJP sticks more closely to DL as Chiam is quite well known for not managing or planning strategies at SDA or even SPP level. PKMS has been seen with DL and do note that most of DL's supporters at the SPP OPC were Malays. Also do note that SDA's Facebook is entirely DL's.
 
I think there are too many small parties under Chiam's arena. Time to be united and one. Frankly, PKM seems rather strange to me and I hardly hear much about this party. I see WP and SDP more stabilsed and cautiously moving ahead. The latter two seems more professional in dealing with challenge and not like Ah Beng style. RP looks like a confident party to me. Singaporeans are generally well educated lot, they would not want some Ah Beng (be him talented or not) to lead them and they judge them by image, especially a new govt will not only have to face local media but international big shot too. If desmond were to be interviewed by Charlie Brown, what kind of style will he display? Hope not hokkien or singlish.

Nevertheless, I will not vote for PAP in the coming election. I should talk less about alternative parties so that they will not be too exposed to the benefit of PAP I hate
 
Sadly this is where Chiam has failed. He has been in politics for so long and he did not build or lay a proper founndation. He should not have misled Desmond in this way. Those who worked with Chiam know that he is bascially omo and to him the party and him are one and the same thing.

Desmond being colourless is known from day one. He was there for a purpose. The press release is certainly not his work.

Looks like RP and NSP are gaining ground while WP prefers to rely on the brand and their performance or the lack of performance in Parliament.
 
Sadly this is where Chiam has failed. He has been in politics for so long and he did not build or lay a proper founndation. He should not have misled Desmond in this way. Those who worked with Chiam know that he is bascially omo and to him the party and him are one and the same thing.

On the contrary, this is where CST has succeeded. He's not about opposition or possibility of alternative government; he's about being an MP free from PAP whip. He did rise from the ashes of SDP to SPP and keep it going there so far, that much I think we'd have to give it to him.

Desmond being colourless is known from day one. He was there for a purpose. The press release is certainly not his work.

Do you really mean colourless or is it a typo for clueless, or both?

Looks like RP and NSP are gaining ground while WP prefers to rely on the brand and their performance or the lack of performance in Parliament.

WP policy has been simple. Non-alliance except merger on terms agreeable to all parties concerned. Nothing new to LTK. It's been there since D. Marshall and JBJ. Barisan Socialis agreed to the terms and merged. It's got nothing to do with arrogance. It's got everything to do with recogniton that there's no such thing possible as unity with many tribal chiefs.
 
NSP has since moved on from there. It would take a greater reason for NSP to consider to re-join SDA again. I am not saying it is totally impossible but it would be very challenging indeed.

Goh Meng Seng

Why the fuck NSP should consider joining SDA? NSP became stronger after it left SDA. You want to take your party back to the stone age?
 
Do you really mean colourless or is it a typo for clueless, or both?

Colourless is the CORRECT word, you dolt!

Desmond is pale with his own towering pride and he has wrought vast damage onto himself and his party.

He is truly a COLOURLESS idiot, like you!
 
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