Soon, all food will be halal!

[syed putra]

The vegetarian 'meat' aimed at replacing the real thing
By Laura WellesleyChatham House

• 10 May 2019

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Meat-free foods that "bleed" like the real thing are becoming increasingly common. Could these vegetarian alternatives replace "traditional" burgers and sausages?
Concerns about the environmental and health impact of our diets has seen interest in vegetarian and vegan foods grow.
This has boosted everything from flexitarianism to vegan sausage rolls and campaigns like "Veganuary".
While Quorn and Linda McCartney once ruled the meat substitute aisles of our supermarkets, new companies are appearing with a radically different vision of "meat-free".
Vegetarian "meat" designed to mimic the look, smell and taste of the real thing are already available, while scientists are developing lab-grown meats
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But with the arrival of these new dishes comes an increasingly animated debate about what can be called "meat", as well as how - and even if - it should be sold.

The first type of these new meat alternatives are plant-based products.
These are already available in restaurants, pubs and supermarkets, contributing to a growing market worth an estimated £4.6bn. Last week, the value of US firm Beyond Meat rose to nearly $3.8bn (£2.9bn) after its Wall Street debut.
The aim of plant-based "meat" is for it to be so similar to cook and eat as the real thing, that it is virtually indistinguishable.
It is made from plant proteins - usually wheat, pea or potato. Natural colourings like beetroot juice usually provide the "blood".
Another US firm, Impossible Foods, has developed a plant version of heme - which gives beef its colour and taste.
The second type of meat alternative is known as cultured or clean meat, which is produced using animal stem cells.
These cells are grown in a lab or bioreactor, usually with the help of a growth-enhancing substance taken from a calf foetus.

The process is arguably closer to a scientist growing replacement tissues and organs than the work of a cattle farmer.
Although not yet available in shops and restaurants, the techniques are being explored in a number of countries and could be on our plates in a matter of years.
A firm called Just hopes to have its lab-grown chicken on US shelves by the end of 2019.

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These meat analogues are not aimed at vegetarians and vegans.
There are high hopes that both the plant-based and lab-grown meats will appeal to hardened meat-eaters.

Image copyrightIMPOSSIBLE FOODSImage captionUS firm Impossible Foods has developed a plant version of heme - which gives beef its colour and taste
But getting these products on to our plates is not as straightforward as simply putting them into shops and restaurants.
Arguably, the biggest hurdle is getting permission to sell them.
Cultured meat firms must undergo a rigorous safety assessment.
In the EU, this process can take up to two years. If the European Food Safety Authority decides the product is safe to eat, a decision must be made about whether it can go to market - and how it should be labelled.
In the US, the timeframe is less certain and relies on approval from two separate departments: the Food and Drug Administration, which regulates the collection and culturing of animal cells, and the US Department of Agriculture, which decides how cultured meat can be marketed.

Media captionThese chicken nuggets were grown in a lab from cells taken from a living animal
Even with approval from regulators, there is still the need to win over the public.
For many consumers, the so-called "yuck" factor of lab-grown meat could be too strong for it to be considered an alternative to real meat - or something they even want to eat.
For others, the most important thing may be clear and transparent information on what they are eating and from where it has come.
In the US, there are demands for a more precise definition of "meat" before this new technology hits the shelves.
The term should only be used to describe "the tissue or flesh of animals that have been harvested in the traditional manner", the US Cattlemen's Association argues.
For producers of meat alternatives, the outcome of these debates could make or break their businesses.
It is thought that consumers are more likely to buy meat described as "clean" or "slaughter-free" than "lab-grown".

 

[nayr69sg]

Still not halal unless meets the way it is prepared

 

[attaphouse]

haha "Soon, all food will be halal!"

 

[winnipegjets]

Halal pork coming soon?

Actually, pork is halal because modern day pigs feed on grains like canola. Pigs were dirty in the past because they ate crap.

Muslims should eat pork now.

 

[syed putra]

Thats rubbish. How can they produce vegetarian meat from pork.

 

[Lizzert]

Thats rubbish. How can they produce vegetarian meat from pork.

Because Pig is the root of all Mankind regardless of race or religion.. oink oink

 

[syed putra]

Because Pig is the root of all Mankind regardless of race or religion.. oink oink

Pig organs and human organ are about similar in size.eating pigs will increase chances of disease that cross species.

 

[winnipegjets]

Pig organs and human organ are about similar in size.eating pigs will increase chances of disease that cross species.

Don't eat the innards then. People want the meat. Make Pork Halal so that muslims can enjoy eat.

 

[syed putra]

Vegan v flexitarian – which will save the planet?

The global food system is damaging our planet. It is one of the leading causes of climate change, land use, freshwater use and pollution through fertilisers and pesticides, and this is only expected to get worse unless we take action.
As population and income levels across the globe are set to rise, scientists believe that the environmental impact of our food system could increase by 50–90 per cent by 2050. This would see us “reaching levels that are beyond the planetary boundaries that define a safe operating space for humanity", according to the article 'Options for keeping the food system within environmental limits', published in the science journal Nature.
So how do we stop our food system from damaging the planet? If everybody became vegan, what would the environmental impact be? Or would everyone taking on a flexitarian diet, where a small amount of animal products are eaten, be enough to make a difference?
The case for veganism

According to The Vegan Society, the number of vegans (who avoid eating all animal products) in Great Britain quadrupled between 2014 and 2018, from 150,000 (0.25 per cent of the British population) to 600,000 (1.16 per cent).
This trend looks set to continue, as recent YouGov analysis shows that 7 per cent of the British population is likely to become vegan or vegetarian within the next year. Of those who plan to give up meat, 35 per cent plan to do so primarily because they are concerned about the environmental impact of their diet choices. But what impact could becoming vegan really have on the planet? According to a University of Oxford study, if everybody cut meat and dairy from their diet there could be…

• A 49 per cent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from food production. (The Food and Agriculture Organisation of the United Nations claims that livestock is responsible for a whopping 14.5 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions.)
• A 76 per cent reduction in land used for food production (67 percent of deforestation for agriculture, which causes carbon to be released into the atmosphere, is driven by the need for land for animal feed and pasture.)
• A 49 per cent reduction in eutrophication, where nutrients from fertilisers run into lakes and rivers, damaging ecosystems and reducing biodiversity.
• A 19 per cent reduction in fresh water withdrawals weighted by local water scarcity. Water production, which includes extraction, transportation and filtration, is energy intensive.

The same study shows that the impact of the very lowest-impact animal products still exceeds that of substitute vegetable proteins, such as tofu.
However, every single person on the planet would have to adopt a vegan diet for these figures to be achieved. Cutting out entire food groups can also lead to environmental pressures on certain ingredients that a vegan diet depends on for plant-based fats and protein. For example, almonds need a lot of water, fertilisers and pesticides to grow, while avocadoes are being exported in such huge quantities that Kenya temporarily banned exports of the fruit in 2018 due to their own supply being at risk.
Could it be argued that a diet that includes a small amount of everything, including locally reared meat, is perhaps more achievable and sustainable than a vegan diet?
The rise of flexitarianism

The word 'flexitarian' was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2014 and is defined as “A person who has a primarily vegetarian diet but occasionally eats meat or fish". The definition in itself is problematic, because “occasionally" could mean once a week, or more, but the premise is to reduce your consumption of animal products.
According to YouGov analysis, 14 per cent of Brits identify as flexitarian. This is twice the number of people who say they follow a vegan, vegetarian or pescetarian diet.
Research analysis by Oxford University scientist Joseph Poore shows that if every family in the UK swapped a red meat meal to a plant-based meal just once a week, the environmental impact would be the same as taking 16 million cars off the road. This is not surprising, considering world meat production was expected to hit a record high of 335 million tonnes in 2018 – more than double the 155 million tonnes produced in 1985.
Other potential environmental benefits of a flexitarian diet include:

• Research published in the science journal Nature reports that, compared to baseline projections for 2050, moving to a more plant-based flexitarian diet could reduce greenhouse gas emissions by as much as 52 per cent.
• If everyone ate less meat it would reduce or eliminate the need for intensive animal farming, which has a high impact on the environment. Some low-impact, more sustainably produced meat can create less greenhouse gas than coffee or cocoa beans produced as a result of deforestation.
• Cattle farming could actually help to reduce soil erosion and carbon emissions. It is thought that cow dung, when spread across fields (abiding by Defra’s rules), adds nutrients and microbes to soil and locks in carbon, therefore reducing the need for additional fertilisers. When you consider that there is three times more carbon in the soil than in the atmosphere, this could make a big difference.
• It is likely to be a sustainable, long-term choice for more people.

So which will save the planet?

A vegan diet is in most cases better for the environment than a flexitarian diet, when you consider greenhouse gas emissions, land use, freshwater use and water pollution. But it's a complex issue, and your personal dietary footprint will be influenced by many factors, including which meats you eat and how you shop. See our vegan recipes for some inspiration.
However, because a vegan diet can seem so restrictive, eating a varied diet that includes a small amount of animal products could be more realistic and achievable for more people – and the only way for diet changes to have an impact is en masse.
How much meat is acceptable in a flexitarian diet is debatable, but research published in the science journal Nature suggests that followers restrict red meat to one portion a week, with ‘modest’ amounts of poultry, fish, milk and eggs.
The Committee on Climate Change’s most recent report confirms that a shift towards a diet that's less reliant on carbon-intensive animal products could enable you as an individual to reduce your dietary emissions by 35 per cent.
Of course, there are other ways to reduce the impact of your diet on the environment, including reducing the amount of food you waste, considering where your food has come from and how far it has travelled to get to your plate, or how many chemicals have been used to produce it. Ultimately you need to decide what matters to you and what changes are realistic for you to make.

See our tofu recipes for inspiration
Does the thought of a vegan diet fill you with fear?!

• Start small – if you’re used to eating meat every day of the week, why not start with a meat-free Monday?
• Change your mindset – rather than thinking of it as limiting your diet, start thinking about how you can incorporate lots of new foods and ingredients into your diet, such as tofu.
• Make meat the side – Switch your meals around so that meat isn’t at the centre. That way you won’t notice if there is less of it.
• Make simple swaps for more meat-free meals – use halloumi instead of bacon, a marinated portabello mushroom instead of a beef burger, or beans instead of mince in a burrito, you’ll soon learn just how versatile vegetables and pulses can be.

Even if you only manage to cut out one red meat meal a week, that’s better than nothing. The latest recommendations from the Committee on Climate Change claim that a 20 per cent reduction in beef lamb and dairy consumption would help the UK to cut its greenhouse gas emissions to almost zero by 2050. So that gives you something to aim for.

 

[winnipegjets]

I will eat more plant products when Muslims start to eat pork. I would love to them to enjoy more pork after decades of deprivation thanks to archaic teachings from misguided Islamic leaders. Halal Pork is finally recognized.

 

[knowwhatyouwantinlife]

Thats rubbish. How can they produce vegetarian meat from pork.

Didnt you start this thread?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Vegan v flexitarian – which will save the planet?

The global food system is damaging our planet. It is one of the leading causes of climate change, land use, freshwater use and pollution through fertilisers and pesticides, and this is only expected to get worse unless we take action.
As population and income levels across the globe are set to rise, scientists believe that the environmental impact of our food system could increase by 50–90 per cent by 2050. This would see us “reaching levels that are beyond the planetary boundaries that define a safe operating space for humanity", according to the article 'Options for keeping the food system within environmental limits', published in the science journal Nature.
So how do we stop our food system from damaging the planet? If everybody became vegan, what would the environmental impact be? Or would everyone taking on a flexitarian diet, where a small amount of animal products are eaten, be enough to make a difference?
The case for veganism

According to The Vegan Society, the number of vegans (who avoid eating all animal products) in Great Britain quadrupled between 2014 and 2018, from 150,000 (0.25 per cent of the British population) to 600,000 (1.16 per cent).
This trend looks set to continue, as recent YouGov analysis shows that 7 per cent of the British population is likely to become vegan or vegetarian within the next year. Of those who plan to give up meat, 35 per cent plan to do so primarily because they are concerned about the environmental impact of their diet choices. But what impact could becoming vegan really have on the planet? According to a University of Oxford study, if everybody cut meat and dairy from their diet there could be…

• A 49 per cent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from food production. (The Food and Agriculture Organisation of the United Nations claims that livestock is responsible for a whopping 14.5 per cent of global greenhouse gas emissions.)
• A 76 per cent reduction in land used for food production (67 percent of deforestation for agriculture, which causes carbon to be released into the atmosphere, is driven by the need for land for animal feed and pasture.)
• A 49 per cent reduction in eutrophication, where nutrients from fertilisers run into lakes and rivers, damaging ecosystems and reducing biodiversity.
• A 19 per cent reduction in fresh water withdrawals weighted by local water scarcity. Water production, which includes extraction, transportation and filtration, is energy intensive.

The same study shows that the impact of the very lowest-impact animal products still exceeds that of substitute vegetable proteins, such as tofu.
However, every single person on the planet would have to adopt a vegan diet for these figures to be achieved. Cutting out entire food groups can also lead to environmental pressures on certain ingredients that a vegan diet depends on for plant-based fats and protein. For example, almonds need a lot of water, fertilisers and pesticides to grow, while avocadoes are being exported in such huge quantities that Kenya temporarily banned exports of the fruit in 2018 due to their own supply being at risk.
Could it be argued that a diet that includes a small amount of everything, including locally reared meat, is perhaps more achievable and sustainable than a vegan diet?
The rise of flexitarianism

The word 'flexitarian' was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2014 and is defined as “A person who has a primarily vegetarian diet but occasionally eats meat or fish". The definition in itself is problematic, because “occasionally" could mean once a week, or more, but the premise is to reduce your consumption of animal products.
According to YouGov analysis, 14 per cent of Brits identify as flexitarian. This is twice the number of people who say they follow a vegan, vegetarian or pescetarian diet.
Research analysis by Oxford University scientist Joseph Poore shows that if every family in the UK swapped a red meat meal to a plant-based meal just once a week, the environmental impact would be the same as taking 16 million cars off the road. This is not surprising, considering world meat production was expected to hit a record high of 335 million tonnes in 2018 – more than double the 155 million tonnes produced in 1985.
Other potential environmental benefits of a flexitarian diet include:

• Research published in the science journal Nature reports that, compared to baseline projections for 2050, moving to a more plant-based flexitarian diet could reduce greenhouse gas emissions by as much as 52 per cent.
• If everyone ate less meat it would reduce or eliminate the need for intensive animal farming, which has a high impact on the environment. Some low-impact, more sustainably produced meat can create less greenhouse gas than coffee or cocoa beans produced as a result of deforestation.
• Cattle farming could actually help to reduce soil erosion and carbon emissions. It is thought that cow dung, when spread across fields (abiding by Defra’s rules), adds nutrients and microbes to soil and locks in carbon, therefore reducing the need for additional fertilisers. When you consider that there is three times more carbon in the soil than in the atmosphere, this could make a big difference.
• It is likely to be a sustainable, long-term choice for more people.

So which will save the planet?

A vegan diet is in most cases better for the environment than a flexitarian diet, when you consider greenhouse gas emissions, land use, freshwater use and water pollution. But it's a complex issue, and your personal dietary footprint will be influenced by many factors, including which meats you eat and how you shop. See our vegan recipes for some inspiration.
However, because a vegan diet can seem so restrictive, eating a varied diet that includes a small amount of animal products could be more realistic and achievable for more people – and the only way for diet changes to have an impact is en masse.
How much meat is acceptable in a flexitarian diet is debatable, but research published in the science journal Nature suggests that followers restrict red meat to one portion a week, with ‘modest’ amounts of poultry, fish, milk and eggs.
The Committee on Climate Change’s most recent report confirms that a shift towards a diet that's less reliant on carbon-intensive animal products could enable you as an individual to reduce your dietary emissions by 35 per cent.
Of course, there are other ways to reduce the impact of your diet on the environment, including reducing the amount of food you waste, considering where your food has come from and how far it has travelled to get to your plate, or how many chemicals have been used to produce it. Ultimately you need to decide what matters to you and what changes are realistic for you to make.

See our tofu recipes for inspiration
Does the thought of a vegan diet fill you with fear?!

• Start small – if you’re used to eating meat every day of the week, why not start with a meat-free Monday?
• Change your mindset – rather than thinking of it as limiting your diet, start thinking about how you can incorporate lots of new foods and ingredients into your diet, such as tofu.
• Make meat the side – Switch your meals around so that meat isn’t at the centre. That way you won’t notice if there is less of it.
• Make simple swaps for more meat-free meals – use halloumi instead of bacon, a marinated portabello mushroom instead of a beef burger, or beans instead of mince in a burrito, you’ll soon learn just how versatile vegetables and pulses can be.

Even if you only manage to cut out one red meat meal a week, that’s better than nothing. The latest recommendations from the Committee on Climate Change claim that a 20 per cent reduction in beef lamb and dairy consumption would help the UK to cut its greenhouse gas emissions to almost zero by 2050. So that gives you something to aim for.

Vegetarians are another bunch of bullshitting assholes like mudslimes. I noticed that vegetarians like to espouse the virtues of eating only veg etc as healthy etc etc ..red meat bad etc etc...and guess wat? My vegetarian acquaintance say he got high cholesterol..wat a joke...

 

[Hypocrite-The]

news.com.au

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Trolls savage mass vegan protests across Australia
APRIL 8, 2019 4:19PM
Vegan activist groups have shut down a major Melbourne intersection, and raided abattoirs in Victoria and Queensland.

Ben Grahamnews.com.au
As a mass wave of vegan protests hit around the country today, meat-loving Australians have reacted savagely to their demands social media.
Trolls on Twitter are posting pictures of bacon and steaks and threatening to eat a Big Mac for every minute they are delayed by the ongoing protests around Australia.

One commenter said he was planning to have a salad for lunch, but because of the protests this morning he decided to have a juicy beef burger, with extra bacon, instead.


Satirical news website, The Betoota Advocate, trolled animal activists, penning a piece titled: “Melbourne’s Vegan Protests Lose Momentum As Activists Begin Napping Due To Iron Deficiencies”.

“What started as a passionate and peaceful protest against the structurally discrimination faced by livestock at the hands of society that believes in the concept of an animal kingdom, has gradually started to fizzle out – as the animals rights protesters sporadically begin to have naps in the middle of the street,” the comedy website wrote.

‘GREEN-COLLARED’ CRIMINALS

Prime Minister Scott Morrison didn’t see the funny side of this morning’s protests, saying “green-collared criminals” should face the “full force of the law”

Speaking to reporters this morning, he hit out at protesters for targeting drought or flood-affected farmers who were “going through some of the hardest conditions we have seen in this country for more than a century”.

“I also say this, if there are pastoralists, farmers, graziers that are in a position to bring a civil action against these groups, looking to undermine their livelihood, the Commonwealth is totally open to supporting them in a test case to show these green criminals,” Mr Morrison said.

Scott Morrison was heckled by a climate change protester today. Picture: AAP Image/Dave Hunt
Scott Morrison was heckled by a climate change protester today. Picture: AAP Image/Dave Hunt

Earlier, he called the activists “un-Australian”.

“It is shameful, it is un-Australian,” Mr Morrison told 2GB radio.

“This is just another form of activism that I think runs against the national interest, and the national interest is being able to farm their own land.”

WHAT DO THE PROTESTORS WANT?

Despite a sarcastic response from many Australians, organiser and director of animal rights documentary, Dominion, Chris Delforce, said there's a very serious message behind today’s protests.

“The industry is telling people these animals are being killed ethically, that they are being killed humanely — the reality is ... it’s the furthest thing from humane,” Mr Delforce told AAP.

He laughed off Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s suggestion the protests occurring across the country were “un-Australian”.

“I think most Australians are opposed to animal cruelty,” he said.

However, it’s clear from social media not everyone is in support of today’s protests.

As part of the activism, Melbourne’s busiest intersection has been blocked off by vegans conducting a “peaceful” peak-hour protest.

Hundreds of vegans from all over Victoria gathered at 5.30am outside Flinders Street Station, holding signs and blocking cars and trams from passing through.

Police have arrested nine people at an abattoir in the NSW Southern Tablelands.

Wearing T-shirts emblazoned with animal rights slogans, the group chained themselves to a conveyor at the premises at about 2.30am before refusing to leave, according to police.

Police have also broken up a protest at a Queensland abattoir.

About 20 animal rights campaigners descended on the Warwick abattoir and chained themselves to equipment before police were called to remove them.

It’s all part of a national day of organised vegan activism that is being touted as the “biggest animal rights protest the world has ever seen”.

And, despite the loud criticism and predictable posting of bacon and steak pictures on social media, some Twitter users said those inconvenienced by the protest need to get over themselves.

Protesters’ list of demands for state and federal agriculture ministers to:

• Publicly acknowledge inherent cruelty in the process of killing animals for food, clothing and entertainment

• Insert a link to view documentary Dominion in a prominent position on their department’s website

• Publicly commit to banning use of intentionally deceptive marketing labels and imagery on animal products

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• Commit to screening Dominion in school curriculum for students aged 15 and over

• Add warning labels onto animals products advising of ethical, health and environmental issues associated with them

• End government subsidies for industries that use, exploit and abuse animals

Animal rights protesters are being arrested and dragged into police vans after blocking a major Melbourne CBD intersection. Picture: AAP Image/Ellen Smith

— with AAP



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[Hypocrite-The]

If these lab grown stuff replace traditional meat! Will mudslimes still be able to to sacrifice sheep etc for Hari Raya celebrations?

 

[ChristJohnny]

m&d = Pig

 

[syed putra]

If these lab grown stuff replace traditional meat! Will mudslimes still be able to to sacrifice sheep etc for Hari Raya celebrations?

The sacrificial ritual is a waste of meat as it got wasted in mostly rich countries and not being delivered to the poor where its needed most.
They should just send slaughtered meat directly to where its needed in sub saharan africa, pskistsn, afghanistan etc.

 

[syed putra]

I will eat more plant products when Muslims start to eat pork. I would love to them to enjoy more pork after decades of deprivation thanks to archaic teachings from misguided Islamic leaders. Halal Pork is finally recognized.

Pork reminds malays too much of their chinese brothers.they have no appetite to betray them.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

The sacrificial ritual is a waste of meat as it got wasted in mostly rich countries and not being delivered to the poor where its needed most.
They should just send slaughtered meat directly to where its needed in sub saharan africa, pskistsn, afghanistan etc.

It's practice in singkieland...so all m&ds go collect

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

Thats rubbish. How can they produce vegetarian meat from pork.

Pure....POOtra

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

Pork reminds malays too much of their chinese brothers.they have no appetite to betray them.

Datz how bodoh melayu Jib feels abt smartie Chinese Jho...