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Chitchat Sinkie Prettyboy Reservist Aloysius Pang Seriously Injured In NZ While Fucking Around With Howitzer! Guess Whether He Uplorry! Boss Sam Please Help!

Aloysius Pang first soldier to be injured operating Singapore Self-Propelled Howitzer: MINDEF
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Actor Aloysius Pang died on Jan 23, 2019, four days after sustaining serious injuries during military training in New Zealand. (File photo: Facebook/Aloysius Pang)
30 Jan 2019 08:55PM (Updated: 30 Jan 2019 09:00PM)
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SINGAPORE: Late actor Aloysius Pang was the first soldier to be injured due to gun lowering while operating the Singapore Self-Propelled Howitzer (SSPH), the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) said on Wednesday (Jan 30) in a media release clarifying the safety record of the artillery vehicle.

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Pang died on Jan 23 in Waikato Hospital in Hamilton, New Zealand, after he was injured while carrying out repair work to a SSPH as part of his reservist duties.

The 28-year-old actor was in New Zealand for Exercise Thunder Warrior, a live firing exercise involving the howitzer.
He suffered crush injuries when the gun barrel was lowered and he underwent a number of operations to treat his injuries, but he died days after the accident.
READ: Final farewell as actor Aloysius Pang is given military send-off

The SAF said the SSPH has been in operation for the last 15 years and had been used by more than 1,000 servicemen, NSmen and regulars.

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“In the last 15 years of SSPH operations, there has not been any reported injury of servicemen due to the gun lowering for maintenance or operating in or firing of the SSPH,” MINDEF said in its statement.

MINDEF confirmed a Committee of Inquiry (COI) was convened on Jan 25 to investigate Pang's death, with a judge from the State Court as its chairman.
Other members of the COI panel include a consultant medical specialist, a member of the External Review Panel on SAF Safety, a member of the Workplace Safety and Health Council and a senior-ranked national serviceman.
None of the COI members work within MINDEF or are SAF regulars, the ministry said.
The incident in New Zealand was the fourth time in 18 months that a Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) soldier had died while in training.
Minister for Defence Ng Eng Hen is set to deliver a ministerial statement at the next parliamentary sitting in February to address the deaths.
SAFETY PROCEDURES

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Exercise Thunder Warrior in Waiouru Training Area in New Zealand, between Jan 5, 2019 and Feb 2, 2019. Included in the exercise were 500 soldiers from 268th Battalion, Artillery and 24 SA. This was the exercise Aloysius Pang was taking part in when he died.

The SSPH was developed by ST Engineering Land Systems and commissioned in 2003.
Operated by a crew of four, including the gun commander, charge loader, ammo loader and driver, each serviceman is given a safe zone within the turret, MINDEF said.
To lower the gun barrel, the gun commander has to make visual checks that the area surrounding the gun barrel is free from obstacles, and that the crew remain in safe operating positions.
He will then sound off “clear away” to warn the gun crew of the impending barrel movement and shout “standby” when the barrel is lowered, the statement explained.
In an emergency situation that requires the gun barrel or other moving parts to stop immediately, any of the servicemen, except the driver, can activate an emergency stop button.
READ: 'This shouldn’t have happened': Shock and grief as people pay their respects at wake of Aloysius Pang


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An example of servicemen's positions in the Singapore Self Propelled Howitzer (SSPH). (Photo: MINDEF)

“In the event that the gun requires maintenance work during training and operations, a team of Army technicians will be activated onsite and takes charge of the SSPH,” the statement added.
“Given the diagnosis and maintenance works required, the Army technicians may require the assistance of the Gun Commander. Army technicians are also trained and required to abide by the same drills and safety protocols as the SSPH crew.”
Technicians undergoing in-camp training will also have to attend a training course to refresh their skills before being deployed.
“The trainees will be drilled on the theoretical and practical components included in the Maintenance Vocational Training (MVT) until they have been assessed to be competent to ensure that the technicians are proficient in performing the required maintenance tasks,” MINDEF said.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALOYSIUS
Pang, an armament technician with the 268th Battalion Singapore Artillery, was tasked with repairing a suspected fault in the gun barrel of a SSPH on Jan 19.
As Pang, another technician and a gun commander were inside the cabin, the barrel was lowered to its standby position.
“It appears from the initial findings that Aloysius was unable to get out of the way as the gun barrel was lowered,” said Chief of Army Major General (MG) Goh Si Hou last Thursday.
“He was caught between the end of the gun barrel and the interior of the SSPH and he suffered crush injuries as a result.”

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Chief of Army MG Goh Si Hou speaking at the press conference on the death of Aloysius Pang on Jan 24, 2019. (Photo: Jeremy Long)

The actor, who held the rank of Corporal First Class (NS), was treated on site before being taken to Waikato Hospital.
After the first two operations, Tan Tock Seng Hospital’s chief of trauma and acute care surgery Dr Teo Li Tserng said that Pang’s condition had stabilised.
But Pang suffered complications, and on Jan 23 had to have another operation in the morning. He died later that night.
READ: Jogging, IPPT among forms of strenuous activity suspended after Aloysius Pang's death
“The well-being of servicemen is MINDEF’s and the SAF’s topmost priority. The SAF has reduced the training tempo for commanders and soldiers to assess safety protocols and plans in their units,” MINDEF said on Wednesday.
“The reduced training tempo will remain in place until the SAF is satisfied that training and other activities can be conducted safely. The SAF is committed to strengthening the safety culture on the ground.”
Source: CNA/mi(hm)
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...erviceman-injured-operating-howitzer-11185626

I hope @Papsmearer die like this.
 

MINDEF said Pang is the first soldier to be injured operating the SSPH is a lie. At best it is a half truth.

As always these people always give half truth - just like CPF Retirement Fund withdrawal remaining at age 65.

Is it automatically sure can withdraw without the need to do anything? For that the withdrawal age will be 70. Then why don't they say that at age 70 confirm can withdraw the CPF Retirement Fund.

Submitting an application to withdraw Retirement Fund does not necessary guarantee withdraw. They can always make things difficult - holding you back and delay as much as possible - and said it is your fault causing the delay for whatever reasons.
 
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Aloysius Pang first soldier to be injured operating Singapore Self-Propelled Howitzer: MINDEF

And thus begins MINDEF's attempt to cover its own backside.

Not sure why there's a need to do that... it's not like Sinkies can file a civil suit against MINDEF or the SAF.

If it's a PR spin to boost the reputation of the military, I'm not impressed.
 
I guess they are afraid of losing the votes of all those whose sons, brothers, boyfriend ,male relatives have to serve NS.
I think they worry too much-as the 70% have already given them free rein to import as many foreigners as necessary and give away as many citizenship as they want.
For every mother son who died, they can create any number of new citizens to vote for them.
Parliament is there to clear their name should the need arise.
if you can change a person's race, what else cannot be done?
 
They are doing aloysious and family a favor by not going public with the full story of how he was fooling around and got caught between the barrel and cabin.

I hate the PAP and SAF as much as you guys but in this case it was the foolishness of Aloysious that led to his own demise.
 
They are doing aloysious and family a favor by not going public with the full story of how he was fooling around and got caught between the barrel and cabin.

I hate the PAP and SAF as much as you guys but in this case it was the foolishness of Aloysious that led to his own demise.


In that case, it's most certainly due to political expediency rather than out of consideration for Aloy and his family.

If there's one thing you must not do around the time of another election year, it is to antagonise the Mediacorp showbiz fraternity, and the groupies and fans.
 
They are doing aloysious and family a favor by not going public with the full story of how he was fooling around and got caught between the barrel and cabin.

I hate the PAP and SAF as much as you guys but in this case it was the foolishness of Aloysious that led to his own demise.

I'd rather believe an indian snake oil peddler than a failed sinkie doctor.
 
They are doing aloysious and family a favor by not going public with the full story of how he was fooling around and got caught between the barrel and cabin.

I hate the PAP and SAF as much as you guys but in this case it was the foolishness of Aloysious that led to his own demise.

Let's give you the benefit of doubt that Pang was fooling around. Following the protocol, the gun would not have been lowered until Pang is out of the way. Harping on the same line 'Pang was fooling around' without anything more than the claim from your 'source' does not mean that it is true.

To lower the gun barrel, the gun commander has to make visual checks that the area surrounding the gun barrel is free from obstacles, and that the crew remain in safe operating positions.
He will then sound off “clear away” to warn the gun crew of the impending barrel movement and shout “standby” when the barrel is lowered, the statement explained.
In an emergency situation that requires the gun barrel or other moving parts to stop immediately, any of the servicemen, except the driver, can activate an emergency stop button.
 
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And thus begins MINDEF's attempt to cover its own backside.

Not sure why there's a need to do that... it's not like Sinkies can file a civil suit against MINDEF or the SAF.

If it's a PR spin to boost the reputation of the military, I'm not impressed.

MINDEF's CMA strategy launched with the press conference with intimation that Pang caused his own demise. It is likely that MINDEF activated its moles here to expand on that allegations like ' Pang was fooling around ', Pang was taking training seriously. The 'critical thinkers' here bit in all, hooks and sinkers.

'Critical thinkers' should ask questions instead. After decades of training to just follow and not ask questions, can't blame the critical thinkers.
 
Did the detachment commander do a visual check, and verbally informed the team?
Did any of them press the emergency button?
 
MINDEF's CMA strategy launched with the press conference with intimation that Pang caused his own demise. It is likely that MINDEF activated its moles here to expand on that allegations like ' Pang was fooling around ', Pang was taking training seriously. The 'critical thinkers' here bit in all, hooks and sinkers.

'Critical thinkers' should ask questions instead. After decades of training to just follow and not ask questions, can't blame the critical thinkers.

If Pang was taking training seriously he's a gem. They are few and far between.
 
And thus begins MINDEF's attempt to cover its own backside.

Not sure why there's a need to do that... it's not like Sinkies can file a civil suit against MINDEF or the SAF.

If it's a PR spin to boost the reputation of the military, I'm not impressed.
I wonder what good words can come from you instead if MINDEF did not do that? If your mind is already made up to condemn whatever actions they will be taking, nothing they do will pleases you for sure. Your insidious towards MINDEF is like: "Damn if they do, damned if they don't". You sure have an axe to grind.
 
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If Pang was taking training seriously he's a gem. They are few and far between.
KNN when mindef generals or any ministers say about trainings or preparation for defence only gcb will think is for real business KNN everyone knows is a clown show forced by the dictators KNN
 
The PAP will be there forever. Live with it. The only way the PAP can be gotten rid of is through other means. Elections is a waste of time when the PM runs the election.
I might as well tell you how. Either the PAP (or within) has committed a corrupted scandal as bad as Najib or there is another capable Oppie to prove its mantle. WP has already failed to many of their supporters of late.
 
I wonder what good words can come from you instead if MINDEF did not do that? If your mind is already made up to condemn whatever actions they will be taking, nothing they do will pleases you for sure. Your insidious towards MINDEF is like: "Damn if they do, damned if they don't". You sure have an axe to grind.

And you take the other stance is that MINDEF can do no wrong. Well, they did wrong when they intimated that the victim caused his own demise. That was totally outrageous. Barely a few days after the incident, they could draw such a conclusion.
MINDEF lost any respect with its handling of previous 'accidents' - like the smoke grenade incident.
If you want to defend MINDEF, then justify your defence.
 
I might as well tell you how. Either the PAP (or within) has committed a corrupted scandal as bad as Najib or there is another capable Oppie to prove its mantle. WP has already failed to many of their supporters of late.
The PAP would allow an election that lead to their demise? I salute your 'critical thinking'.
 
And you take the other stance is that MINDEF can do no wrong. Well, they did wrong when they intimated that the victim caused his own demise. That was totally outrageous. Barely a few days after the incident, they could draw such a conclusion.
MINDEF lost any respect with its handling of previous 'accidents' - like the smoke grenade incident.
If you want to defend MINDEF, then justify your defence.
If you want to interpret as "intimate that the victim caused his own demise", it's all up to you. Can you quote where exactly are those words that imply explicitly to this extent? Please go ahead to quote but I'm very sure that you can't.

They had only stated the fact that: "In the last 15 years of SSPH operations, there has not been any reported injury of servicemen due to the gun lowering for maintenance or operating in or firing of the howitzer." What is wrong with this statement, which is after all, also a truth? Until now and even before the verdict from the COI, did they at any one time explicitly said that Aloysius' death was caused by his own actions? Furthermore, if this is still not enough for you, it has been stated that: "None of the COI members work within Mindef or are Singapore Armed Forces regulars." What more do you want?

If you are adamant in not going to look into this matter in an impartial manner but with a very narrow view, no amount of reasoning and explanation can convince and suffice you. When the verdict will be finally out and if Aloysius family will still reject and/or appeal, then I would say that there could be some unjust in their investigation. Until then, you people here are trying to distort the investigation (before it could even begin) and immediately jump into your own conclusion, which in my opinion, is totally disgusting and nonsensical.
 
The PAP would allow an election that lead to their demise? I salute your 'critical thinking'.
That is all the more the Oppies must get their act together to have a formidable challenge to the PAP, like how PKR had overthrown BN in Malaysia. But look at our bunch of Oppies, they can't even come to an agreement among themselves. How pathetic?

My view is that 70% of Sinkies are not stupid. After seeing the dismay performance from WP, the current chaos and the infighting within the coalition political party in Malaysia, I can safely say that even with TCB coming on board, the PAP will, in the forthcoming GE, still garner at least the same percentage as their last GE. By the way, this thread is about Aloysius' incident, so we should try to keep it as this.
 
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