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Chitchat Sinkie Prettyboy Reservist Aloysius Pang Seriously Injured In NZ While Fucking Around With Howitzer! Guess Whether He Uplorry! Boss Sam Please Help!

hofmann

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What has happen had happened. Yes, accountability is indeed required. But you don't expect the investigation to yield results in an instant. Put yourself in their shoes. I'm sure after the BOI, there will be accountability as with past incidents, eg: the SCDF drowning case. Just like some Sinkie traitors here who keep harping that Singapore has no balls to confront the illegal maritime intrusions by Malaysia in Tuas, but then, didn't Mahathir had said that Singapore had over reacted by sending warships to chase his Chief Minister away? These Sinkie traitors are desperately out to stir and pull down Singapore whenever and with whatever opportunities they can grab. Collaborators are even worse than these despicable Sinkie traitors.

Only despicable politicians are out to take advantage of the situation for their own political gain and I find that Lim Thean is one of them. The WP's approach is more sensible and non confrontational. What is more important now is for MINDEF to find out the exact cause, improve on the safety aspects in all areas to prevent a similar recurrence, and finally, to also meet out the punishments to those who are found to be negligent. Nobody here is saying there's no need for accountability. There could also be that the appropriate safety protocols are already in place, but the commander (especially if he's also a reservist) did not fully abide to it. There could also be lapses in insufficient safety provisions provided inside the Howitzer's cabin as I have mentioned in my previous post.

In the meantime, we can only wait for the outcome from the BOI. People can judge for themselves, if MINDEF will not meet out with the appropriate punishments, they are only putting themselves to further distrusts with the people. No need for other political agenda and oppositions to do as such. Aloysius is dead and whatever claims of unproven negligence now will still not bring him back to life again. The crux now is to ensure further improved safety protocols so that there won't be the next person to suffer a similar tragedy again.

The accident happened 6 days ago. There are (only) 2 witnesses on board.

How long they need to carry out the investigation??? 6 days not enough to interrogate the 2 witnesses?

All they can say is aloysious (rest his soul) didn't move out of the way.

Why don't they say why the gun barrel was moving?
 

JohnTan

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Is this a good time to remind oppies and cheapskates to buy insurance?

Look for Sean!

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Papsmearer

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Where is @Papsmearer? Howitzer is made in singapore? And last time rounds exploded? Were we using something else before?

Someone called me?

Yes, SPH primus is made in Singapore by ST Kinetics. Last time rounds in arty tube exploded that I know of was in NZ, killed an NS boy when his FH2000 towed artillery gun had a cook off round in the breech and blew up, back in 1997. Also, other unreported incidents involving artillery pieces. I recall a M113 Mortar Carrier with the 120mm SOltam Mortar, the explosive charge from the propellant used for the mortar bombs ignited in the vehicle, burning it to melted aluminum. Killed the crew if I recall.
 

JohnTan

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The two witness and others will be told that they can't utter a word to anyone outside because they would breach the Official Secret Act. I hope there will gutsy people in that unit who will tell the nation what happened. Enough of cover-ups!

There's no room for whistleblowers to go public. They should complain to the organization's directors, CEO or manager. Anyone who goes to the public is in breach of the country's Official Secret Act, or in breach of company policy of keeping trade secrets. They will be sued.
 

Ralders

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The accident happened 6 days ago. There are (only) 2 witnesses on board.

How long they need to carry out the investigation??? 6 days not enough to interrogate the 2 witnesses?

All they can say is aloysious (rest his soul) didn't move out of the way.

Why don't they say why the gun barrel was moving?

As to what really happened can be divided into 2 major scenario. Scenario 1 = All 3 horsing around then all 3 mistakes. Scenario 2 (A)= No horsing around meaning only commander fault or whose error? No checking of clear for men then press button to lowered barrel while Aloysius might still be standing. Body and or uniform got click up by rising breech. Scenario 2 (B)= As u know being in reservist might not be in full mode. Aloysius might be in an unclear position and button pressed. Scenario 2 (C) = Might want to test breech can lift own weight jump up on breech with intention to come down after breech rise but unfortunately unable to do so due to lack of time and or uniform stuck on breech.

My worry will it be last scenario.
 

hofmann

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As to what really happened can be divided into 2 major scenario. Scenario 1 = All 3 horsing around then all 3 mistakes. Scenario 2 (A)= No horsing around meaning only commander fault or whose error? No checking of clear for men then press button to lowered barrel while Aloysius might still be standing. Body and or uniform got click up by rising breech. Scenario 2 (B)= As u know being in reservist might not be in full mode. Aloysius might be in an unclear position and button pressed. Scenario 2 (C) = Might want to test breech can lift own weight jump up on breech with intention to come down after breech rise but unfortunately unable to do so due to lack of time and or uniform stuck on breech.

My worry will it be last scenario.

how about equipment fault? maybe the button to lower the gun already pressed, but no response and they were all checking on it. then suddenly the barrel moved.

if equipment fault, is it design flaw? or poor maintenance? problems with the solenoid valve or hydraulics?
 

Ralders

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how about equipment fault? maybe the button to lower the gun already pressed, but no response and they were all checking on it. then suddenly the barrel moved.

if equipment fault, is it design flaw? or poor maintenance? problems with the solenoid valve or hydraulics?
Possible but unlikely.
 

Ralders

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If he is facing the front when incident happened.point to 2B ,2C
Or he is facing the back when incident happen.point to 1,2A
 

laksaboy

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Investigation = time required to cover up inconvenient information and present the story (findings) to the public with minimal negative backlash. May or may not require a scapegoat.
 

Ralders

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Ultimately vehicle commander 3Sg sure can't escape any liability in any of the scenario.

Complacency and negligence are key factors.
 

steffychun

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Next time, if you are a famous or not famous actor, apply for deferment rather than die and then the elites say, its not their fault!
 

JohnTan

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Aloysius Pang is back in Singapore!

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The military aircraft carrying Aloysius Pang's body arrived in Paya Lebar Air Base at 5.45pm. He will be accorded military funeral honours and cremated at Mandai Crematorium on Sunday.
 
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JohnTan

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SINGAPORE — As it sought to reassure the public that it cannot be “business as usual” after actor Aloysius Pang’s death, the Army on Thursday (Jan 24) announced a halt on all high-risk training activities.

This is so that a review can be carried out, and measures drawn up to reduce the pace of training across the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), top military officers said.

Tamping down the “training tempo” will give full-time and operationally ready national servicemen, as well as their units, more capacity to review their training and safety processes, Chief of Defence Force Melvyn Ong said at a press conference on the young actor’s death.

The units will submit their plans in the next few days.

A reduced training tempo means the duration, intensity and frequency of training will be lowered, bringing it to a more sustainable pace with a “focus on safety”, said Lieutenant-General Ong.

It will begin in the next few weeks, and stay for as long as it takes for the SAF to “get this right”, he added.

The Army-wide safety timeout — which will run for an unspecified period — means all field training and live-firing activities here and overseas will be halted, Chief of Army Goh Si Hou said.

It comes after Corporal First Class (National Service) Pang, an armament technician, died on Wednesday (Jan 23), four days after he was crushed by a lowered gun barrel in the howitzer he was repairing. He suffered major trauma injury affecting multiple organs.

The howitzer is an artillery gun mounted on an armoured chassis. The accident occurred during Exercise Thunder Warrior, an artillery live-firing exercise in the Waiouru Training Area in New Zealand.

Pang, who was in his seventh in-camp training as an operationally ready national serviceman, had been given professional training in maintenance, and had also undergone “just-in-time” refresher training before the exercise kicked off.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...it-cannot-be-business-usual-after-pangs-death
 

sweetiepie

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SINGAPORE — As it sought to reassure the public that it cannot be “business as usual” after actor Aloysius Pang’s death, the Army on Thursday (Jan 24) announced a halt on all high-risk training activities
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