Singaporean George Yeo cries "冤枉!" and says he's shocked and upset that Taiwan unexpectedly accused him of being China's dog

[congo9]

George Yeo should just exchange the Singkie IC with china's.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Didn't cantonese meekly surrender too? In macao and Hong Kong?

Fuckeins always say HK n Macau had no choice as they were never independent...or Macau had a choice but the Portuguese gave it up. HK bcos of the 99 year lease of the new territories basically fuck everything up. Dumb ass poms signed a 99 year contract when they could have everything. How dumb could the poms be

 

[orh mee suah]

That US stooge Joseph Wu has also slammed Musk for calling Taiwan an integral part of China.

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

A real dog will have the decency to admit it is a dog. Dogs are also known for their loyalty.

So to call him a dog.... is it fair.... to the dog?

 

[laksaboy]

That US stooge Joseph Wu has also slammed Musk for calling Taiwan an integral part of China.

Elon Musk is special case, his sweatshops are in Tiongland, he is being held hostage due to his Tesla business. Once in a while he would be paraded out to produce some soundbites that make the CCP regime happy, and also used as propaganda to brainwash the low IQ Tiongs living behind the Great Firewall.

Propaganda like this:

https://www.douyin.com/video/7278524673250397479

 

[superpower]

Little known fact #1: Mainland China and Taiwan are technically still at war, a civil war.
LIttle known fact #2: Both the CCP and the KMT lay claims to being the legitimate ruling party representing the whole of China.


When Chiang Kai Shek fled with the KMT to Taiwan in 1949 and set up the ROC on Taiwan, the KMT vowed to reclaim all the land lost to the CCP. Early ROC maps showed the entire Chinese mainland with post-Republican revolution borders.

Today, both the PRC and ROC have not relinquished their respective claims to the entire Chinese motherland. This fact has been purposely obscured and obfuscated in the recent decade by the Western media and the US-supported pro-independence factions in Taiwan.

If you ask me, I'd rather see a prosperous China under democratic ROC rule, if only for the fact that the Chinese people deserve more freedom after millennia of authoritarian rule. But that's an unrealistic proposition at the moment. Given the turbulent nature of Chinese history, it's more likely that the CCP will reform and transform from within - but that would take at least a couple of generations.

 

[superpower]

There's a lot of merit to GY's suggestion, but what he lacks is diplomatic EQ. In this time of heightened US-China rivalry and rising tensions in the Taiwan Strait, certain things are best left unsaid.

Everyone knows that Taiwan can never afford independence, that in one way or another it will be subsumed under the gigantic Chinese economy eventually. The Chinese are prepared to wait. After all, they've waited a century and a half since the crumbling of the effete latter Qing dynasty to arrive at today's world stage. No one has more patience than the Chinese - plans, strategies are all formulated in terms of decades and centuries into the future. The CCP will never admit it, but knowing their own history they are aware that it will not last longer than any of China's most prosperous dynasties without drastic reforms.

Every Taiwanese I've spoken to doesn't want war; they want the status quo, they long for the relative peace of the status quo Taiwan enjoyed up till the early 2000s. While the older KMT generation (dwindling in numbers) and some of their descendants long for reunion with the motherland, the younger native Taiwanese have no emotional connection with the CCP.

If the CCP wants to win over this group it will have to re-invent itself, make itself indispensable to continued economic well-being of the Taiwanese people, and give them enough leeway to continue living their lives in democratic freedom, maybe as a federated province with vast autonomous powers.

 

[Hightech88]

George Yeo thought that he would be awarded the Nobel peace prize for his brilliant China Commonwealth idea that he thought would make both Taiwan and China happy and avoid a nuclear WW III, but instead, he felt hurt that he was, instead of being gratefully thanked for his brilliant idea, kena accused by Taiwan of being China's dog. Poor George Yeo! He never imagined anyone could ever accuse him of being China's dog, something totally unexpected and unthinkable in George Yeo's mind.

https://theindependent.sg/ex-minist...DVB6HtTu1s5Q0Y-11BH-NOwtTCneYuIoaJSuewVPz5-mU

The farking 汉奸 卖国贼 fellow still got the cheek to talk cock, knowing very well Ma Ying-Jeou and Vincent Siew are both from KMT with opposition to current DPP Gov stand, esp. on independence. He under-estimated the strategic complexity of the China-Taiwan problem and should have kept this mouth shut.

 

[batman1]

The Taiwanese have already tasted freedom and independence and democracy.They will fight to death to reject to become slaves under a CCP totalitarian regime.

 

[orh mee suah]

Elon Musk is special case, his sweatshops are in Tiongland, he is being held hostage due to his Tesla business. Once in a while he would be paraded out to produce some soundbites that make the CCP regime happy, and also used as propaganda to brainwash the low IQ Tiongs living behind the Great Firewall.

Propaganda like this:

https://www.douyin.com/video/7278524673250397479

It was the US that switched diplomatic recognition from ROC to PRC in 1979 to counter the threat of the USSR. .
Now that the USSR is dissolved, the US considers China as a threat to its place as the greatest power in the world.
The US has no permanent friends or permanent enemies, only its national interests.
The Taiwanese must realize this. The DPP is serving US interests.

 

[congo9]

There's a lot of merit to GY's suggestion, but what he lacks is diplomatic EQ. In this time of heightened US-China rivalry and rising tensions in the Taiwan Strait, certain things are best left unsaid.

Everyone knows that Taiwan can never afford independence, that in one way or another it will be subsumed under the gigantic Chinese economy eventually. The Chinese are prepared to wait. After all, they've waited a century and a half since the crumbling of the effete latter Qing dynasty to arrive at today's world stage. No one has more patience than the Chinese - plans, strategies are all formulated in terms of decades and centuries into the future. The CCP will never admit it, but knowing their own history they are aware that it will not last longer than any of China's most prosperous dynasties without drastic reforms.

Every Taiwanese I've spoken to doesn't want war; they want the status quo, they long for the relative peace of the status quo Taiwan enjoyed up till the early 2000s. While the older KMT generation (dwindling in numbers) and some of their descendants long for reunion with the motherland, the younger native Taiwanese have no emotional connection with the CCP.

If the CCP wants to win over this group it will have to re-invent itself, make itself indispensable to continued economic well-being of the Taiwanese people, and give them enough leeway to continue living their lives in democratic freedom, maybe as a federated province with vast autonomous powers.

Problem with the Tiong under Xinjinping is a total retard. They expanded the influence outside China and they start to tightened the control of internal greatly with their own set of ISA .

They drive away the foreigners and MNC. They wanted to do it all. But they can't. They wanted to lock themselves up and think they can be self sufficient in All ways. It just totally rubbish. It just very short sighted and idiotic. They want to dominate the world by changing the rule, they want to end USD domination by using their own RMB. But their RMB can't be traded freely around the world. How do you dominate the world and build trust when other can't see your leadership ??

These CCP though powerful and rich but they are sorely lacking in all ways. China should reinvent themselves and tell the world that by following China , there will be superior in many ways then the present system. If you can convince the world , unification of Taiwan is just not an issue. Taiwan will want to join PRC voluntarily. A lot of Taiwanese business abandon Taiwan to join China, but now is leaving China to regroup into other regions.

As for George Yeo, he should just waddle back to PAP and ask for forgiveness from Loong. Rejoin PAP. He is nothing outside of Singapore. He is neither brillant nor a mountain mover. Just like TCJ when he left PAP, PAP strip him off everything.

 

[superpower]

It was the US that switched diplomatic recognition from ROC to PRC in 1979 to counter the threat of the USSR. .
Now that the USSR is dissolved, the US considers China as a threat to its place as the greatest power in the world.
The US has no permanent friends or permanent enemies, only its national interests.
The Taiwanese must realize this. The DPP is serving US interests.

Right on.

1. The US will never defend Taiwan in a civil war with the mainland. It will supply weapons, yes, but that's because the MIC and defence contractors benefit from weapons sales. There are no permanent friends with the US, only permanent interests.

2. The US has already embarked on a 'divide & conquer' strategy vis-a-vis China, encircling it from without by forming alliances with its closest neighbours (Korea, Japan, India and recently, Vietnam), and instigating instability from within - sponsoring the violent HK protests in 2019, instigating Taiwan independence via the DPP, fomenting and funding terrorism in Xinjiang.

And the point of it all? The US will never give up its pre-eminent status in the world to another nation, and definitely not to a non-Western civilization, without a fight. Remember how Capitol Hill was waging battle after battle on Japanese imports when Japan was on the verge of dethroning the US as #1 in the '80s? Then 20 years of deflation followed and Japan is now a meek ally. China will not be allowed to surpass the US at all costs.

Even the half-blind can see that racism and cultural centricism are deeply embedded in the DNA of the foreign policy and geopolitical manoeuvres of the US.

 

[superpower]

Problem with the Tiong under Xinjinping is a total retard. They expanded the influence outside China and they start to tightened the control of internal greatly with their own set of ISA .

They drive away the foreigners and MNC. They wanted to do it all. But they can't. They wanted to lock themselves up and think they can be self sufficient in All ways. It just totally rubbish. It just very short sighted and idiotic. They want to dominate the world by changing the rule, they want to end USD domination by using their own RMB. But their RMB can't be traded freely around the world. How do you dominate the world and build trust when other can't see your leadership ??

These CCP though powerful and rich but they are sorely lacking in all ways. China should reinvent themselves and tell the world that by following China , there will be superior in many ways then the present system. If you can convince the world , unification of Taiwan is just not an issue. Taiwan will want to join PRC voluntarily. A lot of Taiwanese business abandon Taiwan to join China, but now is leaving China to regroup into other regions.

As for George Yeo, he should just waddle back to PAP and ask for forgiveness from Loong. Rejoin PAP. He is nothing outside of Singapore. He is neither brillant nor a mountain mover. Just like TCJ when he left PAP, PAP strip him off everything.

1. Can you blame the Chinese for wanting to go it alone when they see first how Russia is being slowly strangled and encroached by NATO, and then the encirclement of China with Quad, pivoting Korea and Japan and India against it, and the debilitating sanctions against wide swaths of its tech industry?

2. When they saw how the US$ was weaponised against Iran and Russia, can you blame them for joining the de-dollarization trend, which includes not just China but the entire BRICS, ASEAN (Indonesia and M'sia strong proponents), Kenya, UAE, Saudi Arabia?

3. China is not interested in changing the world, or turning it to communism. They want to feed 1.4 bil mouths, maintain stability, lift living standards, invest in education, healthcare and infrastructure, minimise unrest so that the CCP's legitimacy is secured. But to do this they need money, they need resources, and to this end many of their polices like the Belt & Road initiative and wooing of African countries are formulated. And they will never budge an inch on its territory - Taiwan. The humiliations of the 19th century are still too painful to bear for long Chinese memories.

4. Agree, China will have to find a way to woo young Taiwanese who have no emotional affinity with the mainland. How is the big question.

 

[Testing]

Boy Boy Georgie thinks too much and too highly of himself.

"The speech was in fact well received by the audience", to him is fact, to others, its an opinion.

Well received or not, its not up to you to say, its up to the public as well.

 

[hofmann]

If the CCP wants to win over this group it will have to re-invent itself, make itself indispensable to continued economic well-being of the Taiwanese people, and give them enough leeway to continue living their lives in democratic freedom, maybe as a federated province with vast autonomous powers.

See what they have done to Hong Kong and Macau, it's unlikely young Taiwanese will be swayed over by the CCP.

Taiwan has barely 24-25 million people, a rounding error in any China population census.

Taiwan GDP is not even 5% of China's. Chinese Officials fudging their figures will generate more than that in a flick of a pen.

But Taiwan is part of the bulwark holding China back from the Western Pacific. China wants access to challenge America in the Pacific. But for what? National security or Ego?

It's been more than 600 years since the Chinese had a great fleet. Why start again now?

 

[bigozt]

GEORGE YEO YOUR MOTHER CB BORN YOU SINGAPORE COME BACK TO ALJUNIED GRC AND FIGHT!

 

[laksaboy]

Reminder.

https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/si...for-taiwan-china-conflict.348301/post-3872564

'From a Singaporean's perspective'... the temerity. Don't presume to speak on our behalf you Chicom dog.

 

[congo9]

Reminder.

https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/si...for-taiwan-china-conflict.348301/post-3872564

'From a Singaporean's perspective'... the temerity. Don't presume to speak on our behalf you Chicom dog.

It's not mine perspective.
When China wants to flex its muscle and trying to be a leader, a war inevitable.
What is a common wealth ? The Taiwanese is also as ambitious as the Commie dog too.

The communists are a make up of poor peasants and Taiwanese are embedded with superior Chinese gene.

 

[congo9]

1. Can you blame the Chinese for wanting to go it alone when they see first how Russia is being slowly strangled and encroached by NATO, and then the encirclement of China with Quad, pivoting Korea and Japan and India against it, and the debilitating sanctions against wide swaths of its tech industry?

2. When they saw how the US$ was weaponised against Iran and Russia, can you blame them for joining the de-dollarization trend, which includes not just China but the entire BRICS, ASEAN (Indonesia and M'sia strong proponents), Kenya, UAE, Saudi Arabia?

3. China is not interested in changing the world, or turning it to communism. They want to feed 1.4 bil mouths, maintain stability, lift living standards, invest in education, healthcare and infrastructure, minimise unrest so that the CCP's legitimacy is secured. But to do this they need money, they need resources, and to this end many of their polices like the Belt & Road initiative and wooing of African countries are formulated. And they will never budge an inch on its territory - Taiwan. The humiliations of the 19th century are still too painful to bear for long Chinese memories.

4. Agree, China will have to find a way to woo young Taiwanese who have no emotional affinity with the mainland. How is the big question.

If they have to, they will allow trade to flourish between themselves and USA and to the rest of the World.
If Japan and Korea has been benefiting from the trade relation with China, they wouldn't have to pivot to the USA for protection. Fact is that China has been viewing Japan and Korea as a Part of bigger China. That's why Japan and Korea Pivoted to US for protection against China. The PRC just want to do everything on their own and want to push everyone out from low to very high-end manufacturing. Expanding their military presence and threatening neighbour like japan, phillipines, india and in particular Taiwan make everyone nervous. If China is to annex Taiwan, what will happen to Korea and Japan next ? They will be sitting duck to China's military ambition. Japan and Korea aren't stupid.

The Chinese should allow RMB to be traded freely internationally and make it competitive against USD. Others will feel Chinese RMB is strong and there's a leadership in it. In contrast, Chinese Govt restrict the use of RMB internationally.
Frankly speaking holding on to your past hurts is just fucking retard, once a generation or 2 wealthy Chinese experience wealth and freedom. They will want it to be this way. They have money , they want to enjoy their newly founded wealth and freedom. Furthermore, they will resist going to the old ways of mao Ze dong days. But Xi wanted to move back to the time of Mao. I don't know what is he talking about. He is a fucking retard. Chinese economy is going well until COVID-19 swept. They cripple the businesses, and they suck more money out of already out of job and cash poor people. They should have put more money into the hands of people directly. Once it opens up , they will spend like anything and help the Chinese economy get back on the feet. The COVID-19 also makes MNC break into cold sweat and now a lot of people and MNC move out of china, causing joblessness amongst it people. They tried to get people to buy their ex stock of houses. But the developer itself is on the brink, and CCP refuse to let this Company go off life support. Who will buy a flat and marry,have kids when one have no job ????


China should just go back to their ways of their predecessor. Open up much more , import more competitions and this will create more jobs too. Let in more foreign and protect their IP as well. Reform the housing sector, and I am sure china will go back to where it was, and it will become better.

 

[congo9]

Everyone has mouth to feed, nobody like war and by doing trading. Everyone has it own needs and wants satisfied.