Singapore is worse than a prostitute...

[zack123]

no. english as first language didn't benefit majority of the citizen.

the truth is the english as first language had crippled the language capability of this nation. especially the younger generation. they cant speak proper english, they cant speak proper mandarin, we spore are screwed in our language. please wake up.

Bah..i think you are just looking down at sporeans ability. I think most have a good grasp of 1 or 2 languages. We speak well and that is the feedback I get from foreigners. And don't ask for data....

 

[Hakka Tiow]

Thank God it's now 2008 and not 1996.

 

[tarzan100]

Frankly, being a tiny dot means that sometimes you have to behave like a prostitute to obtain material things (economic growth). Having English as the language for business and retaining the mother tongue has kept many young Singaporeans on the world scene. How that has disrupted the culture that is indigenous to the people is moot. Nowadays, the internet has many things that could change one's culture. Adopting a diffrent religion could also change one's cultural pratices and perceptions.

 

[Hakka Tiow]

"We are all whores in our own ways."

 

[char_jig_kar]

Bah..i think you are just looking down at sporeans ability. I think most have a good grasp of 1 or 2 languages. We speak well and that is the feedback I get from foreigners. And don't ask for data....

u misread them. they are just being polite.

 

[char_jig_kar]

Frankly, being a tiny dot means that sometimes you have to behave like a prostitute to obtain material things (economic growth). Having English as the language for business and retaining the mother tongue has kept many young Singaporeans on the world scene. How that has disrupted the culture that is indigenous to the people is moot. Nowadays, the internet has many things that could change one's culture. Adopting a diffrent religion could also change one's cultural pratices and perceptions.

a PERCEIVED economic advantage. the PAP harping about how english as first language had benefited this country. BUT IS IT?

i don't buy this crap about english language as first language policy help give us a very good edge, competitiveness. we take taiwan, we take korea, we take japan for instance. all those countries could stand on their own without english as first language.

there are no real data to back up PAP claim that english as first language had give spore a fucking ace advantage over other countries.

english as 2nd language, or translator will help solve the communication problem. thats what all people do. to state one of spore success is due to english language policy, thats a exaggeration.

 

[char_jig_kar]

- the PAP government had started 'Speak Good English' campaign. What does that tell us? Our english spoken language is below par.

- even though chinese constitute 75 percent of the population here, our Chinese language standard is very low.

now what does that tell us? we have a language problem. we cant speak english properly and we cant speak chinese properly.

PAP govt with its english as first language policy had bring us to this stage, whereby we cant speak chinese nor english properly.

We have a problem my friend.

 

[Hakka Tiow]

A decidedly human trait. We see only what we are looking for.

 

[char_jig_kar]

We are like a whore. Selling out our language.

And for what?? Is it really good fucking edge over other countries our english? is it? then why 'speak good english' campaign?

we are losing it my friend. we are losing our mind. the sum, the advantage of english as first language doesn't add up. in fact, its a setback, it set us back in terms of language capabilities, skill.

but we spore are so happy, so eager in selling away our asian languages for some false, self-delusive, perceived economic edge.

 

[char_jig_kar]

A decidedly human trait. We see only what we are looking for.

if english as first language is a good policy, then why do we need 'speak good english' campaign? because it fail my friend. it fail miserably even decades of english education.

why GCT and LHL have sucky spoken english? sucky spoken english bring this nation good reputation and money??? that give us an edge???

 

[Hakka Tiow]

If not for LKY's English policy, all our SPGs would just have to use their mouths only and not their vocal chords.

 

[zack123]

We are like a whore. Selling out our language.

And for what?? Is it really good fucking edge over other countries our english? is it? then why 'speak good english' campaign?

we are losing it my friend. we are losing our mind. the sum, the advantage of english as first language doesn't add up. in fact, its a setback, it set us back in terms of language capabilities, skill.

but we spore are so happ, so eager in selling away our asian languages for some false, delusive, perceived economic edge.

In this case would you prefer to be confined to your ethnic language?

In the absence of English as first language, what would you prescribe? Can you relate your language preference in accordance to Spore history and the outcome of this policy up to modern Singapore.

This will ensure that Sporeans know that the policy was faulty and that a substitute was available but not utilised but would prove to be more successful than the current policy.

 

[char_jig_kar]

In this case would you prefer to be confined to your ethnic language?

In the absence of English as first language, what would you prescribe? Can you relate your language preference in accordance to Spore history and the outcome of this policy up to modern Singapore.

This will ensure that Sporeans know that the policy was faulty and that a substitute was available but not utilised but would prove to be more successful than the current policy.

doesn't have to confined to the ethic language. we could use asian languages as first language, (chinese for chinese, malay for malay, etc) and use english as 2nd language. to communicate with each and other races.

but right now, our language policy are snuffing the life out of asian languages, and on top of that OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE SUCKS!

so what good is it this english as first language policy? it give us sucky spoken english, and snuff the life out of other asian language. ho tang meh? (profitable? is that so???) its LOSS! ITS NOT A GOOD DEAL MY FRIEND!

 

[Ramseth]

if english as first language is a good policy, then why do we need 'speak good english' campaign? because it fail my friend. it fail miserably even decades of english education.

why GCT and LHL have sucky spoken english? sucky spoken english bring this nation good reputation and money??? that give us an edge???

You're contradicting yourself. Chinese Singaporeans who speak good English, you accuse as selling-out. Chinese Singaporeans who speak bad English, you accuse as failure.

Anyway, there're many Chinese Singaporeans who speak both good English and good Chinese. And please, stop branding or hiding behind "Asian language" for your argument. Just say it out loud and proud, you're arguing for the Chinese language.

 

[Hakka Tiow]

Suharto would have sweared eternal love for a Chinese speaking Singapore.

 

[nanana1]

doesn't have to confined to the ethic language. we could use asian languages as first language, (chinese for chinese, malay for malay, etc) and use english as 2nd language. to communicate with each and other races.

but right now, our language policy are snuffing the life out of asian languages, and on top of that OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE SUCKS!

so what good is it this english as first language policy? it give us sucky spoken english, and snuff the life out of other asian language. ho tang meh? (profitable? is that so???) its LOSS! ITS NOT A GOOD DEAL MY FRIEND!

Wah....why your English beri good leh Can speak Hokkien some more, pro sia

Errr.....loss what, huh ?

 

[char_jig_kar]

wanna sell out one's language and culture? MAKE SURE ITS GOOD FUCKING PROFIT.

BUT SELL OUT ONE'S LANGUAGE AND CULTURE FOR IKAN BILIS PROFIT AND LOTS OF SIDEEFFECT AND HEADACHE??? WTF IS WRONG WITH SPOREANS? THE ENGLISH AS FIRST LANGUAGE IS NOT A GOOD DEAL!

 

[char_jig_kar]

You're contradicting yourself. Chinese Singaporeans who speak good English, you accuse as selling-out. Chinese Singaporeans who speak bad English, you accuse as failure.

Anyway, there're many Chinese Singaporeans who speak both good English and good Chinese. And please, stop branding or hiding behind "Asian language" for your argument. Just say it out loud and proud, you're arguing for the Chinese language.

yes there are exception. but overall singapore english sucks. thats why the speak good english campaign.

 

[char_jig_kar]

Wah....why your English beri good leh Can speak Hokkien some more, pro sia

Errr.....loss what, huh ?

look at PM LHL speaks like having plum in his mouth. isn't that a loss of clarity in terms of communication??

 

[nanana1]

look at PM LHL speaks like having plum in his mouth. isn't that a loss of clarity in terms of communication??

Better than the trash dished out so clearly in this thread leh:p