[Singapore] - Iris Koh started online petition "Do not let vaccination status divide us!"

[dredd]

Why stop at Covid? Shouldn't we have mandatory vaccines for HPV before sexual intercourse is allowed? and while we're about it let's add mandatory shingles vaccines for all those above 50. The list can go on and a sound argument crafted for every single one.

No need manadatory vaccines for the cases you mentioned because having sexual intercourse with whoever is a personal decision and shingles is not a pandemic disease.

 

[dredd]

When you say "we" you mean "Singapore" which is hardly a shining example of a free, democratic nation.

In countries like NZ compulsory vaccination is not legal but since Covid there are have been steps taken to make it compulsory for particular groups of people eg customs officers who have to deal with foreign travelers arriving. There has been resistance but it has not come to a head yet in a court of law and the situation has been defused somewhat by redeploying those who don't want to be vaccinated.

A few years ago the health ministry tried to make the flu vaccine compulsory for nurses but failed in this bid.

From a science point of view I agree with you 100%. Compulsory vaccinations will definitely save more lives than it will cost. However the fear has always been that accepting that the state can mandate what medical procedures could be imposed upon you could be a slippery slope towards a dystopian nightmare. Compulsory sedation for the mentally ill? Compulsory sterilisation of those with genetic defects? Mandatory GPS tracking of those with dementia? These measures would definitely help from a scientific viewpoint but would you accept it if the measures were being imposed upon you or a loved one?

Of course LKY has proven that a functioning, orderly society can be crafted by dictating what language you speak, where you live, what you study in school etc never mind what the people think. If you support his philosophy I guess mandating vaccines is nothing but a storm in a tea cup.

Sam, you fool, childhood vaccinations are mandatory in many countries.

OK, now go to your favourite source of infomation on the Internet and start your usual work of cut and paste to spin and suit your argument. Get ready everyone for a whole flurry of nonsensical datas and postings!

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

No need manadatory vaccines for the cases you mentioned because having sexual intercourse with whoever is a personal decision and shingles is not a pandemic disease.

You are using logic and reason. I don't think people do that kinda shit here.

 

[dredd]

You are using logic and reason. I don't think people do that kinda shit here.

Yes, I know right...

 

[Leongsam]

Sam, you fool, childhood vaccinations are mandatory in many countries.

OK, now go to your favourite source of infomation on the Internet and start your usual work of cut and paste to spin and suit your argument. Get ready everyone for a whole flurry of nonsensical datas and postings!

An excellent decision from a scientific point of view. It has saved many lives. In NZ Measles is still flaring up on a regular basis because the anti-vaxxer parents refuse to allow their children to be vaccinated yet still demand that they be accepted in pre school and primary school despite the risk posed.

My dog has to have all his shots and an annual kennel cough booster before I can board him at the local kennels.

Vaccines have transformed lives. It could well have saved me from polio, tetanus, TB and other dreadful diseases.

Last year I had an extra shot of the shingles vaccine because the one I had 5 years ago was old tech and not so effective.

However I'm afraid you're missing the point. The issue is wider than just vaccines.

 

[Leongsam]

No need manadatory vaccines for the cases you mentioned because having sexual intercourse with whoever is a personal decision and shingles is not a pandemic disease.

The same argument can be put forth for Covid. Those who fear the disease should mask up, stay away from crowds and get vaccinated. That's how influenza is handled.

 

[nayr69sg]

Just get rid of the entire healthcare system.

No more such things as virus and bacteria and diseases and cancer and vaccines and what not.

Save lots of money too!

Everything natural best. No chemicals.

No healthcare system no pandemic. No covid!

HEALTHCARE IS KILLING EVERYONE

 

[nayr69sg]

The same argument can be put forth for Covid. Those who fear the disease should mask up, stay away from crowds and get vaccinated. That's how influenza is handled.

The problem in SG is that the culture is kiasu kiasee. So end up everyone mask up, stay away from crowds and get vaccinated. That's what is happening.

As for those who dont mask up and want to go KTV and dowan get vaccinated? Of course the first group angry lah.

 

[Leongsam]

The problem in SG is that the culture is kiasu kiasee. So end up everyone mask up, stay away from crowds and get vaccinated. That's what is happening.

As for those who dont mask up and want to go KTV and dowan get vaccinated? Of course the first group angry lah.

Those who are kiasee can add as many layers of protection as they want. Nobody is stopping them. However there are those in society who need to earn a living despite the fact that a bad flu is going around.

 

[nayr69sg]

Those who are kiasee can add as many layers of protection as they want. Nobody is stopping them. However there are those in society who need to earn a living despite the fact that a bad flu is going around.

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Need to earn a living and covid.......

So what you mean? If need to earn a living should vaccinate or not vaccinate? Follow government guidelines and requirements so you can open for business or dont follow and just open anyway and risk going to jail?

Aiyah just abolish healthcare system problem solved.

Nobody will die of any medically related causes.

All deaths will be natural or supernatural or spiritual or whatever you want to call it.

Save on medical costs which is a huge part of budget in any country.

Destroy the pharmas waste of time industries can work on saving the earth.

HEALTHCARE IS KILLING EVERYONE

 

[Leongsam]

Need to earn a living and covid.......

So what you mean? If need to earn a living should vaccinate or not vaccinate? Follow government guidelines and requirements so you can open for business or dont follow and just open anyway and risk going to jail?

Aiyah just abolish healthcare system problem solved.

Nobody will die of any medically related causes.

All deaths will be natural or supernatural or spiritual or whatever you want to call it.

Save on medical costs which is a huge part of budget in any country.

Destroy the pharmas waste of time industries can work on saving the earth.

HEALTHCARE IS KILLING EVERYONE

That is actually my philosophy now. I have stopped going for annual medicals. The only prescription medication I am on is Zyban because it does wonders for my sex life.

 

[nayr69sg]

That is actually my philosophy now. I have stopped going for annual medicals. The only prescription medication I am on is Zyban because it does wonders for my sex life.

Yeah dont check sometimes better. Got to go, got to go.

Maybe should make a sequel to Inconvenient Truth.

Talk about the harm that HEALTHCARE system is doing to the world.

Get rid of healthcare system. No more. Everyone just do what they want naturally.

I think it takes pressure off people also. Less stress.

If baby sick just try your best give porridge water milk keep warm. If dont make it too bad.

If get lump in breast rub some coconut oil, all kinds of oil pray hope it doesnt grow bigger. Maybe will disappear.

Break a leg just ask friend to make a makeshift special bicycle with batteries for you.

Chest pain? Pray.


HEALTHCARE IS KILLING EVERYONE

 

[Leongsam]

Yeah dont check sometimes better. Got to go, got to go.

Maybe should make a sequel to Inconvenient Truth.

Talk about the harm that HEALTHCARE system is doing to the world.

Get rid of healthcare system. No more. Everyone just do what they want naturally.

I think it takes pressure off people also. Less stress.

If baby sick just try your best give porridge water milk keep warm. If dont make it too bad.

If get lump in breast rub some coconut oil, all kinds of oil pray hope it doesnt grow bigger. Maybe will disappear.

Break a leg just ask friend to make a makeshift special bicycle with batteries for you.

Chest pain? Pray.


HEALTHCARE IS KILLING EVERYONE

That's an extreme view. I think the attitude towards the healthcare system should be based upon what stage of life you're at.

When you're young you want to try to preempt any issues and treat aggressively if found. My friend's son had childhood cancer but he came through with aggressive treatment and is now 30 and fit and healthy.

However when you're 75 what on earth is the point of taking 15 prescription medications daily to try to extend your life to the point where there is even more misery.

 

[nayr69sg]

That's an extreme view. I think the attitude towards the healthcare system should be based upon what stage of life you're at.

When you're young you want to try to preempt any issues and treat aggressively if found. My friend's son had childhood cancer but he came through with aggressive treatment and is now 30 and fit and healthy.

However when you're 75 what on earth is the point of taking 15 prescription medications daily to try to extend your life to the point where there is even more misery.

But your friend's son who is now 30 will eventually be 75 also.

So what's the point?

You may not be aware but there is an increasing movement these days for the patients to want everything natural. Natural birth. Natural medicines.

No chemicals please. And please absolutely no pharmaceutical agents.

Look at covid. So many out there swear with certainty the vaccine causes death! Even Nobel Prize Laureate.

Just get rid of the healthcare system. People will be much less stressed and much happier.

We talk a lot about how well the indigenous people lived all over the world. They had no tech no medicine no healthcare. They were happy and in one with mother earth and nature.

I think for a start should abolish healthcare. Outlaw it.

HEALTHCARE IS KILLING EVERYONE

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

The Nuremberg Code is used in the context of illegal medical experiments in the context of war crimes.

Extremely disingenuous and disgusting for Iris Koh to use this term.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

But your friend's son who is now 30 will eventually be 75 also.

So what's the point?

You may not be aware but there is an increasing movement these days for the patients to want everything natural. Natural birth. Natural medicines.

No chemicals please. And please absolutely no pharmaceutical agents.

Look at covid. So many out there swear with certainty the vaccine causes death! Even Nobel Prize Laureate.

Just get rid of the healthcare system. People will be much less stressed and much happier.

We talk a lot about how well the indigenous people lived all over the world. They had no tech no medicine no healthcare. They were happy and in one with mother earth and nature.

I think for a start should abolish healthcare. Outlaw it.

HEALTHCARE IS KILLING EVERYONE

Abolish condoms first.

 

[nirvarq]

Only when the 'Self' is not there.

When the self is there, there's this constant conflicts.. to do or not to do. What is right thing to say do etc. etc..

The basis is 'Morale' Morality is the differentiation of intentions, decisions and actions between those that are distinguished as proper and those that are improper.

Yet it's very simple. Correct amount and types of food, basic workout or exercises since we're all not farmers anymore. Compassionate and kind. That's all. Simply put be righteous !

Without doubt, fear or conflict and a balanced energy or natural chakras system, the innate Kundalini energy or Source energy will rise. You'll be a different being with a magical personality beyond words. Yes ! What medical systems, what Covid ? lol..... :P <3

 

[nayr69sg]

Only when the 'Self' is not there.

When the self is there, there's this constant conflicts.. to do or not to do. What is right thing to say do etc. etc..

The basis is 'Morale' Morality is the differentiation of intentions, decisions and actions between those that are distinguished as proper and those that are improper.

Yet it's very simple. Correct amount and types of food, basic workout or exercises since we're all not farmers anymore. Compassionate and kind. That's all. Simply put be righteous !

Without doubt, fear or conflict and a balanced energy or natural chakras system, the innate Kundalini energy or Source energy will rise. You'll be a different being with a magical personality beyond words. Yes ! What medical systems, what Covid ? lol..... :P <3

Yeah! All started with the stupid Rene Descartes.

Mind got no influence over matter and the body.

 

[nirvarq]

Yeah! All started with the stupid Rene Descartes.

Mind got no influence over matter and the body.

The 'mind' is that which is conditioned individually via dna, culture, religions, educations etc.. That is not the Common Consciousness that is present in Man.

When a man dies all the traits, a distinguishing quality or characteristic, typically one belonging to a person is gone as the 'mind' is gone. But the Common Consciousness goes where ? Is present all the time since beginning of time, comes from where ? lol........... :P <3

 

[nayr69sg]

The 'mind' is that which is conditioned individually via dna, culture, religions, educations etc.. That is not the Common Consciousness that is present in Man.

When a man dies all the traits, a distinguishing quality or characteristic, typically one belonging to a person is gone. But the Common Consciousness goes where ? Is present all the time since beginning of time, comes from where ? lol........... :P <3

wow. My mind very simple one. I find it hard to comprehend these complicated concepts.

Will it help me win the lottery if I could master this?