[Singapore] - 16 cyclists arrested by Traffic Police & LTA for beating red light and riding against traffic flow on Apr 17 & 18

[LordElrond]

they hate to get a scratch on their $16.9k bikes. die never mind, but cannot get too near and scratch my bike, ok?

No problem you can crush my bike, it is fully insured.

 

[Leongsam]

They are smart enough not to breach the rules. You might have seen what looks like 50 cyclists together but they are not from the same group.

What about groups of more than 200 cars?

 

[eatshitndie]

No problem you can crush my bike, it is fully insured.

mine has 2 scratches and minor damage, thanks to bangla workers pulling long hoses across paths on weekends.

 

[bobby]

No problem you can crush my bike, it is fully insured.

Fantastic...your insurance has no excess.

 

[Byebye Penis]

only 16? and all asians?

i bet they fine more deliveroo and grabfood cyclists in a day.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

I don't understand why cyclists should be on the roads and treated as cars in the 1st place? Roads are designed for cars...paid for by petrol taxes, vehicle licences, COEs for the cars.

 

[Leongsam]

I don't understand why cyclists should be on the roads and treated as cars in the 1st place? Roads are designed for cars...paid for by petrol taxes, vehicle licences, COEs for the cars.

Bikes are not cheap anymore and the top of the range bikes costing $20,000 or more. Many of the cyclists on the road already own cars and have already paid for their right to use the road via the COEs and taxes that they paid. If they opt not to use their cars and ride their bikes they still have already paid for the privilege.

Besides the idea that the right to use the road is based on the amount paid would mean that Toyotas need to give way to Porsches which in turn have to give way to Ferraris and Lambos and pretty much everyone has to give way to the Bugatti Veyron.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Bikes are not cheap anymore and the top of the range bikes costing $20,000 or more. Many of the cyclists on the road already own cars and have already paid for their right to use the road via the COEs and taxes that they paid. If they opt not to use their cars and ride their bikes they still have already paid for the privilege.

Besides the idea that the right to use the road is based on the amount paid would mean that Toyotas need to give way to Porsches which in turn have to give way to Ferraris and Lambos and pretty much everyone has to give way to the Bugatti Veyron.

The car has the 'right' to be on the road because of Coe n licences etc. It does not apply to the rider or the bike. So with yr logic, if u have a rolls Royce all Coe licences paid etc. U can drive an unlicensed corolla because yr rolls Royce is at home as u already paid for the rolls Royce?

 

[Leongsam]

The car has the 'right' to be on the road because of Coe n licences etc. It does not apply to the rider or the bike. So with yr logic, if u have a rolls Royce all Coe licences paid etc. U can drive an unlicensed corolla because yr rolls Royce is at home as u already paid for the rolls Royce?

If you're going down that road of lumping all categories of road users into one then what are we going to do with pedestrians who use the transport infrastructure too. The cost of the paint for pedestrian crossings and the green man / red man lights etc. There is no end to this battle for road space.

The URA has already specifically stated that taxes for road infrastructure come from the consolidated fund and not from road taxes and COES

How did Singapore, as a society where different modes of transport co existed for more than a century, end up in the state we are in today.

 

[bobby]

In those days when our mata wore khaki shorts...there no such thing as Tour de France cyclists hogging our roads.

Those non motorised vehicles were on the roads out of necessity to earn a living...motorists were more tolerant.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

If you're going down that road of lumping all categories of road users into one then what are we going to do with pedestrians who use the transport infrastructure too. The cost of the paint for pedestrian crossings and the green man / red man lights etc. There is no end to this battle for road space.

The URA has already specifically stated that taxes for road infrastructure come from the consolidated fund and not from road taxes and COES

How did Singapore, as a society where different modes of transport co existed for more than a century, end up in the state we are in today.

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Yes and its good that through progress, such bicycles etc has been gotten rid off. If that the case than bring back road side hawkers. These cyclists are inconsiderate n expect cars to give way to them. Their recklessness causes accidents. N the car drivers get into trouble. They want to kill themselves go ahead. Dont get others into trouble. I hope just retribution befalls on these cyclists

 

[LordElrond]

What about groups of more than 200 cars?

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200 cars stuck together in a chain collision would be sexier

 

[LordElrond]

In those days when our mata wore khaki shorts...there no such thing as Tour de France cyclists hogging our roads.

Those non motorised vehicles were on the roads out of necessity to earn a living...motorists were more tolerant.

Training for competitive cycling is also out of necessity. It is not easy to win a contract as a professional competitive cyclist. So the argument on what is necessity does not make sense at all.

 

[LordElrond]

Bikes are not cheap anymore and the top of the range bikes costing $20,000 or more. Many of the cyclists on the road already own cars and have already paid for their right to use the road via the COEs and taxes that they paid. If they opt not to use their cars and ride their bikes they still have already paid for the privilege.

Besides the idea that the right to use the road is based on the amount paid would mean that Toyotas need to give way to Porsches which in turn have to give way to Ferraris and Lambos and pretty much everyone has to give way to the Bugatti Veyron.

Don’t even get me started on this dollar and cents argument. The amount of environmental damage caused by the motorists toxic fumes, the strain on the medical infrastructure is way beyond the taxes motorists paid. Motorists have an incurable sense of entitlement, just like smokers, believing everyone else should just accept the toxic stuff they released into the air.

 

[LordElrond]

Yes and its good that through progress, such bicycles etc has been gotten rid off. If that the case than bring back road side hawkers. These cyclists are inconsiderate n expect cars to give way to them. Their recklessness causes accidents. N the car drivers get into trouble. They want to kill themselves go ahead. Dont get others into trouble. I hope just retribution befalls on these cyclists

Banning petrol cars from the road will be a good start. This will soon become a reality in the next 10 years. Electric cars should be made so expensive that only the elite few can afford it. So either u drive a million dollar electric car or you ride an environmental friend ly bike.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Banning petrol cars from the road will be a good start. This will soon become a reality in the next 10 years. Electric cars should be made so expensive that only the elite few can afford it. So either u drive a million dollar electric car or you ride an environmental friend ly bike.

Cars should be made cheaper so more can drive. N licences for bikes and cyclists n insurance etc for all. That way all sides are responsible n liable...not just cars n their drivers. Why should cyclists be exempt?

 

[LordElrond]

Cars should be made cheaper so more can drive. N licences for bikes and cyclists n insurance etc for all. That way all sides are responsible n liable...not just cars n their drivers. Why should cyclists be exempt?

Not in Singapore. 70% of the cars have only 1 person inside, this is the most inefficient way of transport in land scarce Singapore. For the same footprint, you can put a peloton of 8 cyclists on the road. Since when were cyclists exempted from traffic rules?

 

[LordElrond]

Fantastic...your insurance has no excess.

Nope, it is a bike specific insurance.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Not in Singapore. 70% of the cars have only 1 person inside, this is the most inefficient way of transport in land scarce Singapore. For the same footprint, you can put a peloton of 8 cyclists on the road. Since when were cyclists exempted from traffic rules?

So for accountability, all bicycles n cyclists should be licensed and treated like motorcycles n scooters.

 

[LordElrond]

So for accountability, all bicycles n cyclists should be licensed and treated like motorcycles n scooters.

I have no issue with this, though I can’t say it is of any use.