[Sg] - Malay Christian pastor in Sg shares his story

[syed putra]

Islam is a cult. Muslims are terrorists.

It was suppose to be a belief in one God. No rituals. Just do good works. But it became complicated.

 

[glockman]

No. I want to know why he jump from frying pan into the fire.

Precisely what I wanted to say. Macham dumb and dumber? But at least now he gets to savour the wonderful taste of babi.

 

[zeddy]

Brave chap. Kudos to him. I have many Malay friends who are very liberal in their lifestyles, mix easily with the Chinese, they're drinkers, into whores and also hardcore 4D punters. But they won't leave Islam.. A Mat friend whose lifestyle involves weekly drinking at our favourite pub, a 3 times a week 4D punter married a local Chinese girl. Wife converted to Islam but he still allow his wife to go the church every week. Wife is still a church volunteer. The reason he asked his wife to convert was just to please his parents and relatives. Even his parents know of their daughter in law's weekly church activities. I don't mind this kind of Mat. It's the crazy Islamist fanatics that worries me.

 

[myfoot123]

No. I want to know why he jump from frying pan into the fire.

Because he think INCEST is wrong.

 

[syed putra]

Brave chap. Kudos to him. I have many Malay friends who are very liberal in their lifestyles, mix easily with the Chinese, they're drinkers, into whores and also hardcore 4D punters. But they won't leave Islam.. A Mat friend whose lifestyle involves weekly drinking at our favourite pub, a 3 times a week 4D punter married a local Chinese girl. Wife converted to Islam but he still allow his wife to go the church every week. Wife is still a church volunteer. The reason he asked his wife to convert was just to please his parents and relatives. Even his parents know of their daughter in law's weekly church activities. I don't mind this kind of Mat. It's the crazy Islamist fanatics that worries me.

Its the law which dictates muslim affairs are to be conducted by islamic religious department. Same as in Malaysia snd brunei. That makes the department having a say on how muslims behave. All three colonies of Britain in south east asia ended up with this law,

 

[Devil Within]

It was suppose to be a belief in one God. No rituals. Just do good works. But it became complicated.

It did not become complicated. Your founder was a murderous tyrant and a sex-crazed pedophile. Muslims just followed their founder.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

If they never set the consequences that leaving will moslem will face discrimination or even death, most will leave esp those educated ones. The cons are they will want to mix with chinese if they left without consequences as they are likely influenced by chinese intelligence.

 

[lianbeng]

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As a Malay Christian, he regularly receives death threats on social media.

https://mustsharenews.com/malay-pastor-singapore/

https://forums.fuckwarezone.com.sg/...ved-a-machete-running-away-from-home.6728431/





According to the latest 2020 Census, almost 99% of Singapore's Malay population are predominantly declared themselves as Muslims, including the small populations of 0.4% non-religious and 0.8% other religions, as stated in the following statistics.

Religion	Number (2020)	Percentage
Islam	442,368	98.8%
Christianity	2,743	0.6%
Roman Catholicism	1,097	0.2%
Protestantism and other Christians	1,646	0.4%
No religion	1,640	0.4%
Buddhism	447	0.1%
Hinduism	223	0.1%
Other religions	326	0.1%

An overwhelming majority of Malays in Singapore are predominantly the followers of Sunni Islam, belonging to the Shāfi'ī (شافعي) school of thought.

A very small Christian community also exists among the local Malays, with approximately 0.6% of Malays are Christians. Despite the facts, the government however has strongly discouraged the publication of the Christian Bible in Malay, and strongly discourages missionaries from attempts to convert the local Muslim/Malay populace. This was done so as not to cause racial and religious tensions in the predominantly Muslim community and because of the reason to protect the Malay Islamic identity, which Islamic image is very ingrained in local Malay culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_Singaporeans#Religion

lianbeng didn't know got Malay Christians one leh. thought ALL Muslims one leh.

 

[duluxe]

If they never set the consequences that leaving will moslem will face discrimination or even death, most will leave esp those educated ones. The cons are they will want to mix with chinese if they left without consequences as they are likely influenced by chinese intelligence.

they know it well in malaysia. so far all the threats are peaceful, no muslim got kill.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

they know it well in malaysia. so far all the threats are peaceful, no muslim got kill.

Those m&ds in msia cfm dont dare to leave. Whatever shit is, their belief is shit. Even those smart m&ds will also know some of the rules are ridiculous but suck thumb just respect their parents. Lucky im not in this gang. Only can go in but cant go out....

 

[syed putra]

It did not become complicated. Your founder was a murderous tyrant and a sex-crazed pedophile. Muslims just followed their founder.

Unfortunately based on scripts, mahomet is not the founder. Believers are suppose to emulate abraham.

 

[syed putra]

Those m&ds in msia cfm dont dare to leave. Whatever shit is, their belief is shit. Even those smart m&ds will also know some of the rules are ridiculous but suck thumb just respect their parents. Lucky im not in this gang. Only can go in but cant go out....

Freedom of faith is the foundation the belief..

 

[ilovechinesegal]

Freedom of faith is the foundation the belief..

Ok then but are they doing it? Or need to study confucius?

 

[syed putra]

lianbeng didn't know got Malay Christians one leh. thought ALL Muslims one leh.

Got one malay guy convert and became pastor in jiu hu snd disappeared with his indonesian christian wife. Believed to be abducted and exhumed by the state.

Pastor Hilmy and wife's disappearance follows a pattern'
Hidir Reduan Abdul Rashid
Published: Jan 20, 2022 2:27 PM
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Updated: 4:27 PM


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Pastor Joshua Hilmy and his Indonesian wife Ruth Sitepu as well as Pastor Raymond Koh and social activist Amri Che Mat, disappeared within a brief period between Nov 2016 and Feb 2017 the Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (Suhakam) inquiry heard today.
Sitepu’s counsel Phillip Koh submitted that the disappearances took place immediately after a speech by a then senior special branch officer at KDN Complex, Kuala Lumpur, in Nov 2016.

 

[syed putra]

Ok then but are they doing it? Or need to study confucius?

They are not doing it because now it has become a religion. Religion are used to subjugate, persecute, suppress and oppress people.

 

[duluxe]

They are not doing it because now it has become a religion. Religion are used to subjugate, persecute, suppress and oppress people.

In Malaysia, islam is an instituitionized religion. I believed animism doesn't fit your description of being a tool to subjugate people. How about taoism?

 

[UltimaOnline]

Got one malay guy convert and became pastor in jiu hu snd disappeared with his indonesian christian wife. Believed to be abducted and exhumed by the state.

Pastor Hilmy and wife's disappearance follows a pattern'
Hidir Reduan Abdul Rashid
Published: Jan 20, 2022 2:27 PM
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Updated: 4:27 PM



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Pastor Joshua Hilmy and his Indonesian wife Ruth Sitepu as well as Pastor Raymond Koh and social activist Amri Che Mat, disappeared within a brief period between Nov 2016 and Feb 2017 the Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (Suhakam) inquiry heard today.
Sitepu’s counsel Phillip Koh submitted that the disappearances took place immediately after a speech by a then senior special branch officer at KDN Complex, Kuala Lumpur, in Nov 2016.

Family of missing Amri Che Mat denied govt’s report on disappearance, told it’s ‘secret’, release against ‘national interest’​

KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 24 ― The Malaysian government has refused to provide the family of Amri Che Mat with the findings of its special task force set up to look into his disappearance in 2016.


Surendra Ananth, a lawyer representing Amri’s family, said the authorities have told them the report is classified.

“With reference to an ongoing lawsuit filed on 18 September 2019, Norhayati Mohd Ariffin’s lawyer filed a request in discovery on 25 May 2021 for a copy of the Special Task Force report to be made available to the court.


“In September 2021, in its Reply Affidavit, the Malaysian government refused to make available the Special Task Force report on the grounds of it being classified as “secret” under the Official Secrets Act 1972, claiming that its public release would be against ‘national interest’,” he said in a statement today.


“We do not believe that there is a legitimate or reasonable reason to classify as an official secret a report of a task force announced so publicly two years ago. This is the latest in a series of roadblocks the legal team has faced even at discovery stage.

“We also filed an earlier discovery application for the SOP of the police on abduction cases, which the government opposed. The court dismissed our application. We have filed an appeal against this decision in the Court of Appeal,” he added.

The Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (Suhakam) today called on the government to make public the report of the task force set up by the government on the disappearances of Amri and Pastor Raymond Koh.

Amri, a social activist, has been missing since 2016 also under questionable circumstances, amid accusations of him being a proponent of the Shia Islamic teachings.

Suhakam deduced that Amri was a victim of enforced disappearance, in the same public inquiry that investigated the missing pastor in 2019.

Koh has been missing since 2017. He was last seen leaving his home in Petaling Jaya, Selangor to buy food and was reported to have been abducted later that day.

His disappearance was preceded by accusations of him attempting to proselytise Muslims into Christianity.

Like Amri, Suhakam concluded that Koh was a victim of an enforced disappearance, with his abduction supposedly carried out by the Royal Malaysian Police’s Special Branch operatives although this remains to be proven.


https://www.malaymail.com/news/mala...govts-report-on-disappearance-told-it/2023279

 

[JohnTan]

It was suppose to be a belief in one God. No rituals. Just do good works. But it became complicated.

islam is a belief in at least 2 gods. The moslem shahada, that all moslems recite to accept islam, insists in newcomers pledging allegiance to two different entities, allah and muhammad.

The islamic beliefs also stated that allah supposedly has 3 daughters, and muhammad once led moslems to venerate the three daughters.

 

[UltimaOnline]

 

[JohnTan]

Family of missing Amri Che Mat denied govt’s report on disappearance, told it’s ‘secret’, release against ‘national interest’​

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KUALA LUMPUR, Nov 24 ― The Malaysian government has refused to provide the family of Amri Che Mat with the findings of its special task force set up to look into his disappearance in 2016.


Surendra Ananth, a lawyer representing Amri’s family, said the authorities have told them the report is classified.

“With reference to an ongoing lawsuit filed on 18 September 2019, Norhayati Mohd Ariffin’s lawyer filed a request in discovery on 25 May 2021 for a copy of the Special Task Force report to be made available to the court.


“In September 2021, in its Reply Affidavit, the Malaysian government refused to make available the Special Task Force report on the grounds of it being classified as “secret” under the Official Secrets Act 1972, claiming that its public release would be against ‘national interest’,” he said in a statement today.


“We do not believe that there is a legitimate or reasonable reason to classify as an official secret a report of a task force announced so publicly two years ago. This is the latest in a series of roadblocks the legal team has faced even at discovery stage.

“We also filed an earlier discovery application for the SOP of the police on abduction cases, which the government opposed. The court dismissed our application. We have filed an appeal against this decision in the Court of Appeal,” he added.

The Human Rights Commission of Malaysia (Suhakam) today called on the government to make public the report of the task force set up by the government on the disappearances of Amri and Pastor Raymond Koh.

Amri, a social activist, has been missing since 2016 also under questionable circumstances, amid accusations of him being a proponent of the Shia Islamic teachings.

Suhakam deduced that Amri was a victim of enforced disappearance, in the same public inquiry that investigated the missing pastor in 2019.

Koh has been missing since 2017. He was last seen leaving his home in Petaling Jaya, Selangor to buy food and was reported to have been abducted later that day.

His disappearance was preceded by accusations of him attempting to proselytise Muslims into Christianity.

Like Amri, Suhakam concluded that Koh was a victim of an enforced disappearance, with his abduction supposedly carried out by the Royal Malaysian Police’s Special Branch operatives although this remains to be proven.


https://www.malaymail.com/news/mala...govts-report-on-disappearance-told-it/2023279

The people were kidnapped for allah's sake. Otherwise, the islamic religion would suffer an irreparable damage.