[Sg] - Iris Koh & Raymond Ng have their case against HSA struck out, begin crowdfunding to cover the $12,000 they were ordered to pay in costs

[UltimaOnline]

Iris Koh
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Dear friends and supporters,
I wanted to update you on the outcome of our Judicial Review against the Health Sciences Authority (HSA). Unfortunately, our case has been struck out based on the issue of standing. While the judge agreed that we have a Public Right for this JR, we were unable to adequately address the point about "special damages." As a result, the judge ruled that the case did not have sufficient merit to proceed. The judge however also said that this case is susceptible to JR.
Despite this setback, we've learned a great deal from this experience about the complexities of pursuing a Judicial Review. This knowledge will be invaluable as we consider future actions to uphold public rights.
Lesson 1: Bar for striking out is high.
Lesson 2: Bar for JR is even higher.
The process and lessons learnt will help us prepare for the next JR.
We have been ordered to pay $12,000 in costs to the Attorney-General's Chambers (AGC) as a result of this lawsuit. I humbly ask for your support to help us cover these costs. Any contribution you can make would be greatly appreciated.
If you are willing to assist, please PayNow to 98291678 with the reference "JR Costs."
In the coming weeks we will be organsing events to update on the various lawsuits and anyone who support our JR Costs can come for the event for free and receive materials from our JR lawsuit.
Even though we lost this lawsuit, for the record, www.igotmyshot.sg was taken down shortly after we began litigation. This site heavily uses different celebrities to promote vaccination.
In any case, we did what we could to the best of our abilities given the limited resources and I know that we can only improve along the way.
Thank you for your continued support and belief in our cause.
Iris Koh

PS.
My defamers are criticizing me for the $12k to pay for AGC Costs. It's ok. I'll just sue them so I can pay for it instead.


https://www.facebook.com/iriskoh

 

[Loofydralb]

Go go iris go.

It's about time the kangaroos were made to work.

 

[JurongEast]

I just transfer 1cent to them

 

[sbfuncle]

KNN that's how agc office look so grand.
Many people contributed to their renovation KNN

 

[tobelightlight]

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/SL/HPA2007-S333-2016?DocDate=20210217#pr4-

For the record, 4n of the Advertisement of Health Products Act. Therapeutic Products include Vaccines.

Are other clauses being violated too?

As of yesterday, supporters gave $1960 for the HSA lawsuit re $12,000 fine to the AGC

If you wish to support, you can paynow to 98291678 (JR Costs)

Contrary to rumours and gossip, when I asked for support, I usually end up having to top up for the costs personally, many times we do not hit the target also.

The good thing about the HSA JR lawsuit is that there are no lawyer fees. Imagine having to pay lawyer fines and the costs. We also learnt a lot from this JR lawsuit so we will do better next time. The AGC won cos they know the law better than us. Not because the court is unfair. But laws need improving, so that "busy bodies" who are actually concerned citizens with vested interest in this country can keep the government and government agencies in check especially for matters concerning public health that affect all of us.

Of all the different types of lawsuits, the JR is definitely one of the most challenging because of the amount of work and thinking involved.

I thank Raymond (who did the bulk of it) and a small research team, a few pro Bono lawyers for giving us some valuable advice and tips.

Sadly, usually the probono lawyers don't want to be named as it is still a stigma to sue the government agencies.

But our democracy must evolve. And lawsuits improve the country and help civilization to be better.

Imagine a world, where you don't get slandered and fake news and misinformation are kept to the min because people know how to take legal action to correct such fake news.

COVID-19 and vaccination was the best example how the power of the media was being abused to the detriment of society, using celebrities and those who could emotionally influence people to by pass their logical minds and reasoning and to take an unproven, experiment injection.

We must do better.
Laws are there to safeguard society and when they are being violated, every citizen has the right to uphold them.

We may appeal against the judgement as it is the right of every citizen to uphold the law and to ensure that our safety and rights to a safe country, rights to life is not being violated.

If you would like to step forward to join our legal research team or join our volunteer team or support our efforts in any way, please reach out to our admins.

The country only progresses when we all have a voice, come together and participate in keeping the government and its agencies in check.

 

[tobelightlight]

My defamers are criticizing me for the $12k to pay for AGC Costs. It's ok. I'll just sue them so I can pay for it instead.

How I wish to have people defame me so I can fund my travels this way.

 

[NanoSpeed]

Dear friends and supporters,
I wanted to update you on the outcome of our Judicial Review against the Health Sciences Authority (HSA). Unfortunately, our case has been struck out based on the issue of standing. While the judge agreed that we have a Public Right for this JR, we were unable to adequately address the point about "special damages." As a result, the judge ruled that the case did not have sufficient merit to proceed. The judge however also said that this case is susceptible to JR.

Raymond should get a lethal shot first. That will cure the issue of "standing". He will then have acquired a personal interest instead of having to rely on public interest. The latter is the one that caused him to not have "sufficient standing" to pursue the matter.

If they do not have a sufficient standing to pursue the matter, then of course they don't have sufficient right to seek "special damages". However, they were unable to adequately address the point of "special damages" is NOT lethal to the case. The case was struck out based on the issue of standing, not special damages.

If Raymond had taken a lethal shot, he would have had personal interest in the matter, and he would have been more than capable to address the issue of special damages.

 

[NanoSpeed]

Raymond should get a lethal shot first. That will cure the issue of "standing". He will then have acquired a personal interest instead of having to rely on public interest. The latter is the one that caused him to not have "sufficient standing" to pursue the matter.

If they do not have a sufficient standing to pursue the matter, then of course they don't have sufficient right to seek "special damages". However, they were unable to adequately address the point of "special damages" is NOT lethal to the case. The case was stuck out based on the issue of standing, not special damages.

If Raymond had taken a lethal shot, he would have had personal interest in the matter, and he would have been more than capable to address the issue of special damages.

Alternatively, Iris can register "Healing the Divide" as a NGO and use NGO to file a judicial review.

This will give it the "standing" to seek the Court to review a government policy.

 

[tobelightlight]

Alternatively, Iris can register "Healing the Divide" as a NGO and use NGO to file a judicial review.

This will give it the "standing" to seek the Court to review a government policy.

You can msg her and offer your expertise lah..

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

who are these 2 ah ?

the guy looks creepy leh..................

 

[sbfuncle]

Alternatively, Iris can register "Healing the Divide" as a NGO and use NGO to file a judicial review.

This will give it the "standing" to seek the Court to review a government policy.

Very technical analysis.
Tiok lah you must had been with law firm or studied law before.

 

[NanoSpeed]

Very technical analysis.
Tiok lah you must had been with law firm or studied law before.

Paiseh, I also used AI.

 

[NanoSpeed]

Iris has very good grounds to seek a judicial review. She needs to get past the first stage, which she stumbled.

Watch out for future government propaganda. If the government decides to stop using celebrities to endorse the vaccines, it'll be construed as an implied admission that Iris is right.

 

[sbfuncle]

Paiseh, I also used AI.

I think Layman won't know how to apply it using AI.
You compliment me as John lone. I compliment you back lor. OK.

 

[knowwhatyouwantinlife]

Why is Everton still in the Premier league?

 

[NanoSpeed]

I think Layman won't know how to apply it using AI.
You compliment me as John lone. I compliment you back lor. OK.

That you resembled John Lone wasn't my compliment. It's simply trusting your words about what others had complimented you.

Yes, applying your knowledge to the circumstances is different. Just as knowing how to build a nuclear bomb and deciding when and where to detonate it are different.

 

[sbfuncle]

That you resembled John Lone wasn't my compliment. It's simply trusting your words about what others had complimented you.

Yes, applying your knowledge to the circumstances is different. Just as knowing how to build a nuclear bomb and deciding when and where to detonate it are different.

Hey that alone is a compliment to me

 

[Willamshakespear]

Raymond should get a lethal shot first. That will cure the issue of "standing". He will then have acquired a personal interest instead of having to rely on public interest. The latter is the one that caused him to not have "sufficient standing" to pursue the matter.

If they do not have a sufficient standing to pursue the matter, then of course they don't have sufficient right to seek "special damages". However, they were unable to adequately address the point of "special damages" is NOT lethal to the case. The case was struck out based on the issue of standing, not special damages.

If Raymond had taken a lethal shot, he would have had personal interest in the matter, and he would have been more than capable to address the issue of special damages.

The plaintiffs would had lost the lawsuit anyway, regardless over standing or special damages.

They were fortunate to had met a wise judge who threw out their cases, because if the lawsuit had continued, the legal costs would had been astronomical, a chance by others to dish out what the plaintiffs had done to the late Ms Geno Ong by figuratively pushing her over the edge as she was unable to bear or mount the legal costs to defend herself.

The reason why the plaintiffs would had lost was because COVid 19 was not just National Emergency, it was a Worldwide Emergency as nations all over undertook extreme measures to prevent spread.

Although in Singapore, no such National Emergency was declared, however, the health crisis was handled through ordinary legislation delegating “special and temporary powers to the executive”, with the passage of the COVID-19 (Temporary Measures) Act 2020 (“CTMA”)

In such cases, everything is off the table, & decisions made by the Executive in such a crisis are inviolable or subject to questions by anyone. even in the use of celebrities to promote use of the vaccine, to save lives & proven.

Furthermore, there were already NFCS ( No Fault Compensation Scheme) covered for those who suffered from taking the vaccines, capped at $225K, administered by MOH.

Even a newly minted grad from Law faculty would had told the plaintiffs the same, so who were their lawyers???

If the plaintiffs were so concern about 'championing the Rights of Citizens' - the way is to get ELECTED into Parliament, where laws are discussed, debated & then approved by the body, NOT foolish antics in a Court, as Judges DO NOT make laws, but interpret laws.

 

[steffychun]

The plaintiffs would had lost the lawsuit anyway, regardless over standing or special damages.

They were fortunate to had met a wise judge who threw out their cases, because if the lawsuit had continued, the legal costs would had been astronomical, a chance by others to dish out what the plaintiffs had done to the late Ms Geno Ong by figuratively pushing her over the edge as she was unable to bear or mount the legal costs to defend herself.

The reason why the plaintiffs would had lost was because COVid 19 was not just National Emergency, it was a Worldwide Emergency as nations all over undertook extreme measures to prevent spread.

Although in Singapore, no such National Emergency was declared, however, the health crisis was handled through ordinary legislation delegating “special and temporary powers to the executive”, with the passage of the COVID-19 (Temporary Measures) Act 2020 (“CTMA”)

In such cases, everything is off the table, & decisions made by the Executive in such a crisis are inviolable or subject to questions by anyone. even in the use of celebrities to promote use of the vaccine, to save lives & proven.

Furthermore, there were already NFCS ( No Fault Compensation Scheme) covered for those who suffered from taking the vaccines, capped at $225K, administered by MOH.

Even a newly minted grad from Law faculty would had told the plaintiffs the same, so who were their lawyers???

If the plaintiffs were so concern about 'championing the Rights of Citizens' - the way is to get ELECTED into Parliament, where laws are discussed, debated & then approved by the body, NOT foolish antics in a Court, as Judges DO NOT make laws, but interpret laws.

Go pay Iris you motherfucker or you'll get sued.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Regarding my earlier post on getting ELECTED to champion the rights of citizens, the insignificant nobody me have MORE respects for Mdm Nicole Seah, who at the mere age of 25 yrs old, stood up for elections & almost won but lost by a mere est 6.9% against an ex PM.

No one is perfect, but She did not resort to foolish antics such as the plaintiffs did.

Although she did not win, but she did made a huge impact upon policies that resulted in self reflection from our govt, for better to ALL.

What had the plaintiffs done that deserves our respect?

Each time the plaintiffs win a case, they used such funds to enjoy themselves in Sushi bars, even at the expense of those whom had limited funds to defend themselves, & in their own words - to enjoy the high life such as travels to exotic locations, AND when they lose cases, they expect DONATIONS from the NAIVE, to fund their insane challenges???