Satanic Quran Verse 9:111

[mudhatter]

That is why I called you dummy.

You are trying to fit your own morality when his contemporaries do not object.

AND previous prophets of Christianity did worse. So the only right standards of morality is a guided one from God.

Yeah

But more importantly

there is no chronological age limit universally applicable for marriage

have you seen one?

throughout the ages?

None.

Hadiths = susceptible to errors

end of discussion.

Only Quran = Word of God.


= unedited = unmodifiable

It is through Hadith that Jews like Al Sauds spread their divisiveness, ignorance, violence, criminal activities in service of the world Jewry

Al Saud family = crypto Jews. which is basically just Jews in disguise

 

[mudhatter]

There are people looking at this you know! Study the history of religion and ancient empires. They look at the details, buy old manuscripts found in middle east.......
By conquering the seas, the European basically strangled the economy of middle eastern were brokers fir goid from indua, south east asia and china. Old cities like damscus and baghdad became irrelevant. Impoverish. And those who conquered the new world became the new superpowers.

Middle Eastern civilization = older than CECA tiongs euros etc

Middle Easterners fell due to primarily Ottoman TURKIC donkey rule

Look at Iran, supposedly non Arab, yet struggling and yet the TURKIC donkey Khamenei ruling over it came up with absurd fatwa that nuclear bombs are Haram when all of its most dangerous enemies have them in abundance

those same TURKIC donkeys had earlier issued fatwa that printing press = haram

It was only during Ottoman rule that Baghdad Damascus Cairo Cordoba Marakkech etc fell behind. although cordoba marakkech were not ruled by ottomans, their declines coincided with Ottoman rule over a large chunk of the wider Middle East.

those TURKIC donkeys were busy fucking balkan euro whores. their obsession began and ended with balkans.

the only part of europe that was is and prob will remain a veritable sh*thole - the Balkans.

 

[mudhatter]

Eh Harlow dummy. Even during his day he was acknowledged even by his own enemies that he is an upright and honest individual with undisputed historical account of his truism.
And if he did copy and compiled it into the Quran, somehow your feeble brain cannot fathom why he did not copy the mistakes, errors, pornography, and hidden unknowns that were never revealed before?
And before you go any further, Islam demands you question everything. Unlike the church when confronted with the illogical trinity with order it's adherents to just have faith.

they have to lie.

since their religion is false, except for lies, they have got nothing else. nada.

zilch. zero.

sifr. nil. nothing.

there fore, they need to lie

they also need to concoct lies on the fly

in that way, they can comfort themselves and lull themselves into a sense of complacency that their false devilish religion that believes every human being is evil criminal from birth is worth following

what a truly sickening evil religion

that considers every child born a sinner

an utterly sick pathetic disgusting false religion

that considers every child a sinner a criminal and evil

 

[Hanslesley73]

We don' t really know how many if any mohamed married with as the stories you hear were written hundreds of years after his death. Historians could not collaborated those stories with those written during mohamad's era as nothing survived. Absolutely nothing.just like china emperor at one time destroyed Confucius books and writings.

This practice is taught and accepted in moslem religious classes. In fact, they are still practicing their prophet’s model behaviour in marrying child brides at moslem countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, the Middle East, Afghanistan, etc.
http://www.thailawforum.com/pizzagate-3-child-brides-and-child-abuse/
https://observers.france24.com/en/20190906-video-11-year-old-bride-iran
https://rumahkitab.com/child-marriage-thrives-in-urban-areas-too-3/
https://www.dw.com/en/south-asia-is-home-to-highest-number-of-child-brides/a-17256037

 

[duluxe]

Surah 4:74: So let those who trade the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in Allah’s cause. Whoever fights in Allah’s cause, whether he is killed or victorious, We will grant him a tremendous reward. (Ali Unal)

 

[syed putra]

Middle Easterners fell due to primarily Ottoman TURKIC donkey rule

Nope. When Europeans dominate the seas, middle east acting as brokers for trade between east and west evaporates.
They cut off the middlemen.

 

[Hanslesley73]

Surah 4:74: So let those who trade the life of this world for the Hereafter fight in Allah’s cause. Whoever fights in Allah’s cause, whether he is killed or victorious, We will grant him a tremendous reward. (Ali Unal)

And the tremendous reward includes......mass orgies with 72 virgin maidens in their so-called paradise
Hmmm....sounds more like an Arab man's ultimate fantasy, no?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houri

 

[syed putra]

And the tremendous reward includes......mass orgies with 72 virgin maidens in their so-called paradise
Hmmm....sounds more like a dirty Arab's fantasy, no?

There is no such thing as 72 virgins.where They got this notion is a mystery.

 

[Hanslesley73]

There is no such thing as 72 virgins.where They got this notion is a mystery.

It is in the Koran, look at the wiki link on my previous posting...
I remember being told these infos too at the religious class I attended
What came to mind was 72 nubile, virginal Rachel Weisz while she was on a camel in The Mummy movie

How many Samsters now want to convert to Islam n meet 72 virginal, wide-eyed beauties in paradise?

 

[duluxe]

There is no such thing as 72 virgins.where They got this notion is a mystery.

72 virgins come from the holy hadiths. Koran mentions houri, hadiths goes into details.

 

[Hanslesley73]

72 virgins come from the holy hadiths. Koran mentions houri, hadiths goes into details.

Houris are the 72 virginal, nubile beauties waiting for the 'jihadists' in paradise as a reward for their 'heroic' sacrifice.

The houris are mentioned in several passages of the Quran, always in plural form. No specific number is ever given in the Quran for the number of houris accompanying each believer.

Quranic description[edit]
In the tafsirs and commentaries on the Quran, Houris are described as:

• 36:55[5] "Companions",[6]
• 37:48[7] "with large and beautiful eyes",[8]
• 38:52[9] "companions of modest gaze well matched (at thirty-three years of age according to commentators)"[10]
• 44:54[11] " wide and beautiful eyes",[12]
• 52:20[13] "beautiful houris of wide and beautiful eyes",[14]
• 55:56[15][16][17] "untouched beforehand by man or jinn,",[18] 55:58 "as elegant as rubies and coral",[19] 55:72[20] "bright-eyed damsels in sheltered in pavilions",[21] 55:74[22] "untouched by any man",[23] "reclining on green cushions and beautiful carpets",[24]
• 56:8[25][26][27] 56:22[28] "with intensely black eyes set against the whiteness of their irises",[29] 56:35[30] "created without the process of birth",[31]
• 78:31-33[32][33] and as "splendid companions".[34]

Meaning of the term kawa'ib[edit]
Several translators—like Arberry, Palmer, Rodwell and Sale—have translated the noun ka'ib in Quran 78:33 as "with swelling breasts".[35] Ibn Kathir, in his tafsir, writes that the word has been interpreted to refer to "fully developed" or "round breasts... they meant by this that the breasts of these girls will be fully rounded and not sagging, because they will be virgins."[36] Similarly, the authoritative Arabic-English Lexicon of Edward William Lane defines the word ka'ib as "A girl whose breasts are beginning to swell, or become prominent, or protuberant or having swelling, prominent, or protuberant, breasts."[37]

However, M.A.S. Abdel Haleem and others point out that the description here refers in classical usage to the young age rather than emphasizing the women's physical features.[38][39]

Others, such as Abdullah Yusuf Ali, translate ka'ib as "companions,"[40] with Muhammad Asad interpreting the term as being allegorical.[41]

 

[syed putra]

It is in the Koran, look at the wiki link on my previous posting...
I remember being told these infos too at the religious class I attended
What came to mind was 72 nubile, virginal Rachel Weisz while she was on a camel in The Mummy movie

How many Samsters now want to convert to Islam n meet 72 virginal, wide-eyed beauties in paradise?

Nope. 8 doubt its in the quran.
Paradise is where a rivers flow and partnered with chaste companion if I recall. Sound like china.

 

[Hanslesley73]

Nope. 8 doubt its in the quran.
Paradise is where a rivers flow and partnered with chaste companion if I recall. Sound like china.

Oh come on, it was taught in the religious classes. The Houris are referred to as 'bidadari.'
Why are you lying about your own religion? Are you ashamed of what it preaches?
72 nubile, virginal, buxomly, beautiful bidadaris in paradise if you die in jihad
On Earth here, we call it mass orgy.

 

[syed putra]

Oh come on, it was taught in the religious classes. The Houris are referred to as 'bidadari.'
Why are you lying about your own religion? Are you ashamed of what it preaches?
72 nubile, virginal, buxomly, beautiful bidadaris in paradise if you die in jihad
On Earth here, we call it mass orgy.

These are based on hearsays.

 

[Hanslesley73]

These are based on hearsays.

Nope. This was taught in the religious classes. Houris are also mentioned numerous times in the Koran.
The following is stated in verses 31-34 of the chapter of an-Naba in the Quran: "Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart´s) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim)." Is the phrase "... and voluptuous women of equal age..." not a statement that triggers lust?

Houris (Arabic, various forms: حوري ,حورية ,حور ,أحور ,حوراء‎), or heavenly virgins, are a variety of celestial being that, according to Islamic scriptures, serve as a key attraction of Heaven or Jannah (Arabic: جنّة‎ 'Jannah'; plural: Jannat). Houris are mentioned in Qur'anic text as a reward for believing men in the afterlife. According to the Quran, once in Jannah, believers are wed to virgin houris who have "full grown", "swelling" or "pears-shaped" breasts.[1][2][3] The Quran provides a physical and personal description of the houri and denotes them as awards to believers. A hadith graded Sahih(authentic) details the number of houris that will be awarded to martyrs.[4]

Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al-Ghazali (1058 - 1111 CE) and al-Ash'ari (874 - 935 CE) have discussed the Houris as being rewards and pleasures found in heaven. Al-Ghazali, in particular, refers to a hadith that describes heaven as a slave market where there will be "no buy and sale, but... If any man will wish to have sexual intercourse with a woman, he will do at once."[5][6] The same hadith is quoted by Ibn Kathir, in his Qur'anic Commentary, the Tafsir ibn Kathir[7]. The houris are also described graphically by Qur'anic commentator and polymath, Al-Suyuti (died 1505), who, echoing a Sahih hadith[8] from Ibn Majah,[9] wrote that the perpetual virgins will all "have appetizing vaginas", and that the "penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal."[10]

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Houri_(Heavenly_Virgin)

 

[syed putra]

Nope. This was taught in the religious classes. Houris are also mentioned numerous times in the Koran.
The following is stated in verses 31-34 of the chapter of an-Naba in the Quran: "Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart´s) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim)." Is the phrase "... and voluptuous women of equal age..." not a statement that triggers lust?

Houris (Arabic, various forms: حوري ,حورية ,حور ,أحور ,حوراء‎), or heavenly virgins, are a variety of celestial being that, according to Islamic scriptures, serve as a key attraction of Heaven or Jannah (Arabic: جنّة‎ 'Jannah'; plural: Jannat). Houris are mentioned in Qur'anic text as a reward for believing men in the afterlife. According to the Quran, once in Jannah, believers are wed to virgin houris who have "full grown", "swelling" or "pears-shaped" breasts.[1][2][3] The Quran provides a physical and personal description of the houri and denotes them as awards to believers. A hadith graded Sahih(authentic) details the number of houris that will be awarded to martyrs.[4]

Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al-Ghazali (1058 - 1111 CE) and al-Ash'ari (874 - 935 CE) have discussed the Houris as being rewards and pleasures found in heaven. Al-Ghazali, in particular, refers to a hadith that describes heaven as a slave market where there will be "no buy and sale, but... If any man will wish to have sexual intercourse with a woman, he will do at once."[5][6] The same hadith is quoted by Ibn Kathir, in his Qur'anic Commentary, the Tafsir ibn Kathir[7]. The houris are also described graphically by Qur'anic commentator and polymath, Al-Suyuti (died 1505), who, echoing a Sahih hadith[8] from Ibn Majah,[9] wrote that the perpetual virgins will all "have appetizing vaginas", and that the "penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal."[10]

Normally quran will not be gender specific. In this case it says " voluptuous women" which is very weird. So what will women get in heaven? It did not say.

 

[Hanslesley73]

Normally quran will not be gender specific. In this case it says " voluptuous women" which is very weird. So what will women get in heaven? It did not say.

Do Arab men care about what women get? The Koran was written by an Arab man- Mohammed.
Unsurprisingly, it does correlate and represent what goes on inside an Arab man’s head - the fantasies, his wants(to be revered), his misogynistic ideologies, his perceptions, etc.
Apart from copying what was already written in the Bible and the Torah.

 

[Hanslesley73]

I do apologise if what I have written here has offended some Moslems. It is not my intention to offend nor upset anyone. I am curious about Islam. Hence I am sharing my experiences/limited knowledge, with the hope that I can understand why Moslems are the way they are. However it does infuriate me when I see in real life how appalling some Moslems are in their cruelty and mean-spiritedness, especially to vulnerable people like Haslinda Ismail's victim. She was supposed to be protected, she has an intellectual disability, but instead, she was victimised in the most atrocious/inhuman way. This is not an isolated incident amongst them that highlighted their capacity in being irrationally cruel/mean-spirited.

In my travels and life, the group of people who never fail in portraying their tendency to be cruel(yet always pretend to be holy and good) are surprisingly - the Moslems n hijabis. I'm not saying all Moslems are bad, but generally there is an indisputable hypocrisy within their social frame. Hence, usually there is a lack of synchronicity between their true character/behaviour and their public image, mainly stemming from this lack of connection to God due to their prayers done in a foreign language, perhaps? Or how the Koran is translated?

It is good to be vulnerable sometimes, bcoz cruel and mean spirited people usually would discard their masks/hypocrisy and reveal their true colours.

 

[syed putra]

Muslims Serve their religion. Whatever they do, it's to protect their religion. They have long ago forsaken God for religion.
In haslinda case, there is no state backed institution for people like her.

 

[whoami]

I do apologise if what I have written here has offended some Moslems. It is not my intention to offend nor upset anyone. I am curious about Islam. Hence I am sharing my experiences/limited knowledge, with the hope that I can understand why Moslems are the way they are. However it does infuriate me when I see in real life how appalling some Moslems are in their cruelty and mean-spiritedness, especially to vulnerable people like Haslinda Ismail's victim. She was supposed to be protected, she has an intellectual disability, but instead, she was victimised in the most atrocious/inhuman way. This is not an isolated incident amongst them that highlighted their capacity in being irrationally cruel/mean-spirited.

In my travels and life, the group of people who never fail in portraying their tendency to be cruel(yet always pretend to be holy and good) are surprisingly - the Moslems n hijabis. I'm not saying all Moslems are bad, but generally there is an indisputable hypocrisy within their social frame. Hence, usually there is a lack of synchronicity between their true character/behaviour and their public image, mainly stemming from this lack of connection to God due to their prayers done in a foreign language, perhaps? Or how the Koran is translated?

It is good to be vulnerable sometimes, bcoz cruel and mean spirited people usually would discard their masks/hypocrisy and reveal their true colours.

Normally i will not come to TS thread. But i just saw ur post. So i need to address it for obvious reasons.

U apologise. But are u sincere? U said u are curious about Islam. U have limited experiences/knowledge. If tats the case, u should learn to ask first. U dont go around criticising/badmouthed Islam, the Prophet and the Holy Quran, no? By all means u can hantam, curse and swear Muslims ie. if they committed heinous crimes. U must understand there are 1.8 Billion Muslims worldwide. Even if 1 Million were rotten, its still a very very low percentage of 1.8 Billion. Why compare 1% instead of 99%? Some are fm 3rd world countries. Some are illiterate/backward. Not as educated like u...able to source knowledge the net. Rotten apples are common in every race/religion. U cant just stereotype a particular race/religion. I myself do not condone evil acts by "Muslims". Tat goes with IS or terrorists who killed innocent parties in the name of Islam. The above example happened to be Malays. But if they were Cheena? Indian? AMDK or other religion?

I did mention many times here. Wearing hijab is hukum. Is obeying Allah, azzawajal, command. Same as praying 5 time a day. Hypocrites are everywhere. Not just among Muslims. Even Christians, Buddhists, atheist, free thinkers, etc etc. Just cos they are Muslims, tat doesnt guarantee he/she will not commit sins or will go paradise when he/she dies. Only Allah know wats in their hearts.