Private property owner wheel-clamps car and demands $500 from driver

[Poomer]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

if its me I demand the police come down?, then they will hv to advice the owner cannot clamp.

 

[Leongsam]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

If its ah gong road, and the police cant do anything, like that we anyhow wheelclamp people on ah gong road, spf also not gonna care.

Pretty ridiculous, the mata mata these days simi also mai chap.

The residents have purchased the road. They are therefore free to exercise their property rights within the boundaries allowed by the law.

Clampers are well known in the Western world. They even make TV shows about how they operate. It's good to see Singapore making the same advances in traffic and parking management. It's been a long time coming but it has finally arrived.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

They should Know better. Land is ah gong one, make police report can claim extortion. i gota relative who own a plot of land many years ago. he built an apartment building + a row of terraces on it, so he have to build a small road in between to allow the terrace access. twenty-thirty years later, a new development build bhind his plot of land and want access. relative say no, road is built on his land thus his private property, ah gong say no, so many years le have this road, road is now ah gongs one. so relative LL have to allow access.

It's called an easement. Anyway i don't know of any rds in sg that can be considered pte property as in outsiders cannot go thru only rds in army camps.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

The private property owner who did the wheel clamping obviously doesn't understand about mentality and circumstances.

He may have some justification for doing so, but the people whose wheels are being clamped:
1. know where he and his family live.
2. may not have the mentality and circumstances to simply accept his wheel clamping action and enforced penalties.
For example, he may one day clamp the wheel of someone who is about to be made bankrupt and has just been told he has an incurable illness. Oh, and he has no dependents.

Good luck private property owner, you'll need it.

Agree. Plus, the lie that the road belongs to them. It certainly does not. Illegal parking comes under the jurisdiction of law enforcement authorities. Not up to them to take the law into your own hands and enforce their own penalties. Vigilante justice is not in permitted in the law books in SG. You may as well say, I fine you $50,000 plus one night with your wife.

What goes around will come around.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

Agree. Plus, the lie that the road belongs to them. It certainly does not. Illegal parking comes under the jurisdiction of law enforcement authorities. Not up to them to take the law into your own hands and enforce their own penalties. Vigilante justice is not in permitted in the law books in SG. You may as well say, I fine you $50,000 plus one night with your wife.

What goes around will come around.

Concur with you on this pt but as you can see that guy was charged $500 which isn't a fine made by any law books but by the homeowner. He posted it on stomp and the police were involved and yet they didn't tell the home owner he couldn't just issue a fine quoting any amount he desired but yet they allowed him to do so. So what's going on?

 

[johnny333]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

Anyone who has ever driven through Oxley Rd will know that you are not allowed to use that road even though it is a public road

 

[laksaboy]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

This is similar to this episode of Ji Gong: you'll have to pay to cross the bridge.

[video=youtube;obC3jaVE24I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obC3jaVE24I[/video]

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

The private property owner who did the wheel clamping obviously doesn't understand about mentality and circumstances.

He may have some justification for doing so, but the people whose wheels are being clamped:
1. know where he and his family live.
2. may not have the mentality and circumstances to simply accept his wheel clamping action and enforced penalties.
For example, he may one day clamp the wheel of someone who is about to be made bankrupt and has just been told he has an incurable illness. Oh, and he has no dependents.

Good luck private property owner, you'll need it.

Well the location of the pte estate is already known (west coast rd location). Now all we need are some garang dudes to challenge them. Park their vehicles there and see them clamp the vehicle and challenge them.

 

[johnny333]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

Concur with you on this pt but as you can see that guy was charged $500 which isn't a fine made by any law books but by the homeowner. He posted it on stomp and the police were involved and yet they didn't tell the home owner he couldn't just issue a fine quoting any amount he desired but yet they allowed him to do so. So what's going on?

Yup if the property owner wants to charge $ for the use of his property. He has to post signs that clearly state the terms & conditions of use. Without such a clear sign I don't see how there can be an enforceable civil contract.

 

[sleaguepunter]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

instead of kpkb on the house owner, reflect how would you feel when strangers keep chaining their bike on front of your door, blocking your way 24/7. i personally think it within the landowners' rights to clamp any tresspaser vehicles.

but i would prefer to spend a bit of money, call a tow truck, pay the tow truck to tow the offending vehicle to tuas roadside URA parking lot. let it acummulate parking tickets while the owner search for his/her vehicle.

 

[ray_of_hope]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

Yup if the property owner wants to charge $ for the use of his property. He has to post signs that clearly state the terms & conditions of use. Without such a clear sign I don't see how there can be an enforceable civil contract.

The motorist stated his in his stomp posting:

"Then he pointed to a signboard stating, 'Private property. Wheel clamp removal fee $500."

What is unclear about that?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

suddenly one of the property owners had a eureka moment. He would charge $1000 for wheel clamp. He then proceeded to change the sign board to 1k fine. He was lucky too since his house was located at the corner nearest to the kopi tiams hence he had the best chance to get someone to park his vehicle on his rd.

 

[sleaguepunter]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

The motorist stated his in his stomp posting:

"Then he pointed to a signboard stating, 'Private property. Wheel clamp removal fee $500."

What is unclear about that?

the offender shd thank his lucky star the $500 clamp removal fee is net amount. all MCSP charge 7% gst on top of the removal fee.

 

[ahhock24]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

Buy a vacant land at Orchard/Shenton/Marina Bay, not need to build condo or shopping complex hor, better build carpark lots cuz sure can clamp at least 10 cars/day/lot. 1 month can earn 10x$500x30days=$150,000 per lot. Good money.

 

[kopiuncle]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

the road infront of your terraced house a private property???

 

[johnny333]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

The motorist stated his in his stomp posting:

"Then he pointed to a signboard stating, 'Private property. Wheel clamp removal fee $500."

What is unclear about that?

I remember reading about someone charging $10,000 if someone used his private parking spot. I think it was a place at Sixth Ave.
What if someone decides to charge $1,000,000 . Then what?

 

[1nottiboy]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

I have come across private roads before. there was one in the killiney area. but my take on this is, if it is private, why don't you just gate it? if they can all pool their funds to buy a small road, I am sure it wouldn't cost much more to build a gate rite?

if the road is truly private then the motorist has no one else to blame. but if the road is actually public property, the govt should prevent such nonsense.

 

[jw5]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

I remember reading about someone charging $10,000 if someone used his private parking spot. I think it was a place at Sixth Ave.
What if someone decides to charge $1,000,000 . Then what?

LPPL pay lor.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

I have come across private roads before. there was one in the killiney area. but my take on this is, if it is private, why don't you just gate it? if they can all pool their funds to buy a small road, I am sure it wouldn't cost much more to build a gate rite?

if the road is truly private then the motorist has no one else to blame. but if the road is actually public property, the govt should prevent such nonsense.

It's the rd right in front of their house leh. I think it's ok to drive thru you just cannot park on it. The rd is an easement.

 

[peppertail]

Re: Your grandfather's road meh ???

It's the rd right in front of their house leh. I think it's ok to drive thru you just cannot park on it. The rd is an easement.

I wonder if the private owners still have to pay road maintenance even if they permit the public to use it. It's traffic that wears down roads after all.

Maybe they struck a deal with LTA?