Pritam Singh says WP is not a Chinese dominated party

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Then you have this nincompoop above me proving all the above with his Chinese chauvinism

says the asshole that commented that he has never faced racism in singapore before but still somehow feels pissed off.

 

[Television]

Yawn, another round of racism.. I am not interested in going down the rubbish chute.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Jah, taking your Canada example, if a Chinese rest. in Toronto only hire Chinese, that is not racism, but if McDonald refuse to hire Chinese, it is.

If you sincerely believe that language is the only criteria, not race, either you are very ignorant or you never put yourself in other shoe and try...

Your example doesn't cut it. We can compare this in this context in singapore too. I am sure many indian and malay restaurants in singapore itself doesn't have chinese. Plain obvious why.

I don't think the chinese restaurants in toronto only hire chinese ppl. That is because only chinese ppl apply. The ppl that work in such places might only speak chinese. Unless you mean to tell me they have an outright discrimination policy. I have lived in the US before and let me tell you one chinese restaurant i bought food from hire white people. So you're not correct here.

You're trying to make it seem like ethnic shops like chinese restaurants are racist when in reality whites probably don't even want to work there cos they don't fit the criteria which is to communicate in chinese.



I didn't say that language is the only criteria. Do you mean the mandarin speaking policy some companies have? Look the fact of the matter is companies have a right to select candidates that they want. Some companies might have many chinese clients that only speak mandarin so they require mandarin speakers. Is that supposed to be racist. The fact of the matter is this you cannot prove to me that i am wrong. You just make things up.

 

[Television]

I am certainly not going to entertain Jah_Fag in another round of delusional debate on race, racial chauvinism and plain ignorance. PAP IB trying to divide a population for 50 cent per comment.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Yawn, another round of racism.. I am not interested in going down the rubbish chute.

New definitions of racism come in everyday only in singapore one of the world's safest countries for minorities.

Previously it used to be auntie in shop didn't smile at minority = auntie is racist.

Now it's one forummer dismisses racism in singapore or discussions of racism in singapore or dismisses that an opposition party in singapore isn't racist means that forummer is racist.


I am sure in future you will see chinese person doesn't bow down and kiss feet of minority chinese person is racist.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I am certainly not going to entertain Jah_Fag in another round of delusional debate on race, racial chauvinism and plain ignorance. PAP IB trying to divide a population for 50 cent per comment.

Due to his lack of intelligence, has 0 evidence to prove wp is racist but his thick hide holding whatever little self esteem he has left tries to leave with his head shamelessly held high.

 

[Goldeneye]

I would say a vast majority of sinkies of all races, particularly Chinese, are not racist, they are nice people... but we have a short way to go to make it even better for racial minority, so that the country gets stronger... I am not talking about token steps like featuring them in ads etc., but serious ones...

WP or any other party will pay a heavy price, if they forget it, because unlike job selection, this is done with votes, and the % are high enough to sink them. This is not Taiwan or Korea.

I see your basic gripe that is racial minority should not play that card at every turn and also take steps to integrate and mix. I am 100% with you on that

 

[Television]

I see your basic gripe that is racial minority should not play that card at every turn and also take steps to integrate and mix. I am 100% with you on that

It goes 2 way mate(Indians, Malays and others did not come to a Chinese country, the Chinese should take the equal number of steps to integrate with the others)

 

[Goldeneye]

Yes, the responsibility is always heavier on the shoulder of ANY majority or dominant race or group in any country - Malay in Malaysia, Chinese in Singapore, Muslim in Indonesia, WASP in America and so on...

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I would say a vast majority of sinkies of all races, particularly Chinese, are not racist, they are nice people... but we have a short way to go to make it even better for racial minority, so that the country gets stronger... I am not talking about token steps like featuring them in ads etc., but serious ones...

WP or any other party will pay a heavy price, if they forget it, because unlike job selection, this is done with votes, and the % are high enough to sink them. This is not Taiwan or Korea.

I see your basic gripe that is racial minority should not play that card at every turn and also take steps to integrate and mix. I am 100% with you on that

Yes you are a reasonable person. Yes the majority of chinese are nice people. How else can singapore be on the of the most peaceful countries in the world for a minority?


You claim serious steps but you don't even state anything. You don't even give a hint of anything at all. You claim featuring them in ads is just token steps which isn't enough so what serious steps? Why not you force chinese ppl to speak minority languages? You know something to enroach unto the majority further forcing them to bend over more and more.



Thanks for stating the obvious that the wp or any party will pay a heavy price etc etc but you are wrong here obviously. The wp won didn't they?


That's correct. A racial minority should obviously mix and should not play the racial card eveytime. I mean let's go back to canada again or the US. Would you be pissed if a chinese immigrant complains of english being spoken all the time and refuses to speak english and doesn;t mix with whites but only other chinese ppl or does this chinese immigrant have a right to do that?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

It goes 2 way mate(Indians, Malays and others did not come to a Chinese country, the Chinese should take the equal number of steps to integrate with the others)

seriously stop lying. The chinese have always been taking steps to accomodate minorities. Nicole seah even apologized to the malays on behalf of all chinese for no good reason. It's the minorities that have always been whining all the time and refusing to integrate always calling for the chinese to bend over more and more. It takes both hands to clap and the chinese side has always been the one doing most of the clapping and you even dare accuse them of not doing the clapping. You're a real dishonest liar.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Yes, the responsibility is always heavier on the shoulder of ANY majority or dominant race or group in any country - Malay in Malaysia, Chinese in Singapore, Muslim in Indonesia, WASP in America and so on...

Out of all those countries you mentioned which country's majority has done the most for the minorities? Singapore obviously.

You know how malays treat non malays in malaysia. You know how it is like in indonesia. You know how wasps enslaved the blacks for 400 years and only gave them civil rights like 50years back during the civil rights era.

 

[Goldeneye]

I think in general it is reasonable to expect minority to speak the common language, which is usually language of majority like French in France or English in USA. In case of Singapore which is new state + not inside China but in SEA etc., I think speaking Chinese by min should be encouraged, but not forced, certainly not used as disqualification for job. IMHO..

 

[Goldeneye]

Out of all those countries you mentioned which country's majority has done the most for the minorities? Singapore obviously.

You know.

Believe or not, I agree.... That does not mean it can't get better or that some aspects can't be copied from elsewhere...

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I think in general it is reasonable to expect minority to speak the common language, which is usually language of majority like French in France or English in USA. In case of Singapore which is new state + not inside China but in SEA etc., I think speaking Chinese by min should be encouraged, but not forced, certainly not used as disqualification for job. IMHO..

Nobody is forcing non chinese ppl to speak mandarin or any other chinese dialect. There are quite a number of chinese singaporeans that cannot speak mandarin. Many non chinese learn mandarin cos they want to and they are treated like stars when they learn how to speak chinese. You ever seen how a non chinese is fawned over like a superstar when he speaks chinese? I am sure you have seen this before.


At least you are reasonable you expect both sides to do the clapping while some of them like that television only expect the chinese side to do all the clapping and still complains.

 

[Fook Seng]

Word on the streets is WP Gurmit singh and the malay chap is a puppet.

By the way, Gurmit Singh is half Chinese but not Pritam Singh. And what is the name of the Malay chap you are talking about? You don't bother to find out the name of the guy, in fact, both guys. How can you claim you are on the side of the minorities?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Believe or not, I agree.... That does not mean it can't get better or that some aspects can't be copied from elsewhere...

Yeah of course it can be better no shit.


The thing is you haven't given any inkling of how it can be better. Perhaps it's cause there really isn't anything at all. I'll give it to you that at least you're not like some of them here that are offended for no reason.


edit: i decided to highlight your words here believe it or not. When somebody says believe it or not he's trying to convince someone that is most likely highly skeptical of something. Well in this respect how shocking can it be that singapore is less racist than the US, malaysia and indonesia? It isn't shocking at all. It's just facts like 1 + 1 = 2. Of course you have to agree.

 

[Goldeneye]

You claim serious steps but you don't even state anything.

The wp won didn't they?

I think some improvements in job area can be made. Believe me, it will benefit the companies themselves if they are more open to other races instead of throwing away the resumes and inventing excuse like "deal with PRC/Taiwan" which may not be true in vast majority of cases. The Koreans were like this only hiring/promoting Koreans, even in oversea posting, now they are learning the hard way after crisis. Same for Japanese. Why are US/Europe companies ruling the world? Because they are more open than others. Just look at top ranks in Google/Shell etc. you will find all names, Chinese, Indian, muslim etc. I am not saying they are perfect, they are a lot better.

Sinkie companies have a golden chance that a Taiwanese, Chinese or Korean company does not have - that is a country where they can hire diverse workforce, at all levels (not just liftmen and janitors), right at home. If they grab it with both hands, they can benefit enormously. I strongly believe in this as I have seen perceptions that different race/language/culture can bring to table.

As to WP, the win in Pungol was not on this topic (race) but on different one. No one played that card, not PAP, not other opposition. Had they played, or you can bet they will play in GE, results will be very different.

 

[Television]

Hi Fook seng. I didn't claim by being on anyone's side. All i am pointing out is the demographics and the behavior and thinking of the people on the ground.

Thank you on stating the obvious on Gurmit singh and why i used him as a reference.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

By the way, Gurmit Singh is half Chinese but not Pritam Singh. And what is the name of the Malay chap you are talking about? You don't bother to find out the name of the guy, in fact, both guys. How can you claim you are on the side of the minorities?

Nice for pointing that out. That guy isn't here for a proper debate. He's here to simply insist that wp and singapore are racist with 0 evidence. Ppl like that will never ever be logical and are totally unreasonable.