Pfizer jab deadlier than AstraZeneca across Europe – leaked study

[syed putra]

There never was a pandemic. Covid is such a mild disease in most that all the lockdowns, masking and vaccine efforts are nothing more than measures introduced, not to save lives but to transfer wealth.

The problem with the world is that the vast majority have IQs below 120 which is why they don't realise they are being played big time.

Annual death rates indicate covid caused a extra 10% in 2020. In the UK, thats about 55k. And not 300k they keep harping.

 

[ChanRasjid]

Fact: The idea that money motivates pharmas to come up with vaccines are false. Pharmaceuticals make more money from drugs to treat diseases. Vaccinations are not money-makers. Case in point: the drug Sovaldi for Hepatitis C in the US, just one drug, raked in over 10 billion compared to 24 billion in takings of total global sales for vaccinations. If making money was the objective, pharmaceuticals should just stop making vaccines and concentrate on treatment drugs.

Fact: The world didn't shut for SARS, MERS or Ebola because these diseases were not as easily transmittable as COVID.

Your statement: "The idea that money motivates pharmas to come up with vaccines are false" is strange. Do they provide vaccines FOC? It is irrelevant that pharmas have other ways to make money besides vaccines. Vaccines' profit is still big money.

The money possible from pushing out a vaccine is big enough a temptation to corrupt. People have attempted to use insider information to make money in the stock markets; the profits may just be an extra few millions! If a few extra millions could corrupt, how much more the billions of profit from selling a vaccine would.

"E=mc² Is Wrong"
Chan Rasjid Kah Chew,
Singapore.
http://www.emc2fails.com

 

[dredd]

Bro you know the saying right?

A man convinced against his will is of his own opinion still.

Forget it lah. This forum is not meant for serious debates anymore.

And with the covid stuff it is even more jia lat.

People will just choose what they want. Let it be. It is a free world. No one can tell the future. Nothing is certain. Nothing is 100% safe. Mistakes can happen.

People just have to decide.

I support you sharing what you have found and what your thoughts are. And i like there are no heavy personal insults (yet).

Make your choices whatever it is. Thats it. There is no need to get everyone to follow you.
BTW I do not say any one side is correct or wrong.

Time will tell.

Not looking to change anyone's opinion. Just want to set the record straight and to have fun while doing it.

 

[Leongsam]

Annual death rates indicate covid caused a extra 10% in 2020. In the UK, thats about 55k. And not 300k they keep harping.

The best indication are the z scores of each country.

For Europe it is tracked at https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country

It is pretty obvious that in most countries excess deaths are minimal.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Fact: The idea that money motivates pharmas to come up with vaccines are false. Pharmaceuticals make more money from drugs to treat diseases. Vaccinations are not money-makers. Case in point: the drug Sovaldi for Hepatitis C in the US, just one drug, raked in over 10 billion compared to 24 billion in takings of total global sales for vaccinations. If making money was the objective, pharmaceuticals should just stop making vaccines and concentrate on treatment drugs.

Fact: The world didn't shut for SARS, MERS or Ebola because these diseases were not as easily transmittable as COVID.

Absolutely agree and I am with you on this

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

There are various food chains operating at any one time. This particular one involves big tech, pharma and media with politicians doing their bidding.

You have been fooled by right wing idiots.

Read dredd's posts. That's all i want to say.

 

[jw5]

You have been fooled by right wing idiots.

Read dredd's posts. That's all i want to say.

I read dredd's posts, quite informative.

 

[capamerica]

There are various food chains operating at any one time. This particular one involves big tech, pharma and media with politicians doing their bidding.

I love it when the arguments run dry and the media is to blame.

 

[capamerica]

Fact: The idea that money motivates pharmas to come up with vaccines are false. Pharmaceuticals make more money from drugs to treat diseases. Vaccinations are not money-makers. Case in point: the drug Sovaldi for Hepatitis C in the US, just one drug, raked in over 10 billion compared to 24 billion in takings of total global sales for vaccinations. If making money was the objective, pharmaceuticals should just stop making vaccines and concentrate on treatment drugs.

Fact: The world didn't shut for SARS, MERS or Ebola because these diseases were not as easily transmittable as COVID.

Absolutely. I am sure those paying the price for the Hep C Cure (US$ 80K last I checked) would say otherwise, the $20 per COVID shot many governments have chosen to absorb to reopen is a nonissue

Except here of course, where the misinformation is rife.

 

[capamerica]

You have been fooled by right wing idiots.

Read dredd's posts. That's all i want to say.

Right wing conservative conspiracy theories

 

[capamerica]

The best indication are the z scores of each country.

For Europe it is tracked at https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country

It is pretty obvious that in most countries excess deaths are minimal.

All I am going to say is read Dredds posts

And lets see how long you can keep going.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

I read dredd's posts, quite informative.

That's all that needs to be said.

 

[Leongsam]

You have been fooled by right wing idiots.

Read dredd's posts. That's all i want to say.

You have been fooled by the swamp determined to consolidate their gains.

 

[pvtpublic]

There are various food chains operating at any one time. This particular one involves big tech, pharma and media with politicians doing their bidding.

let's try to break it down...

big tech was the top beneficiary of the pandemic forcing the adoption of new tech.

pharam is "threatening" to end the pandemic with their vaccines and get us back to the old ways.

so I don't see the synergy between the pharam and tech food chains.

media just wants eyeballs. fear sells, nothing new there. they have been sluts since time immemorial. the early journalists were the bards travelling from tavern to tavern and singing tales of the world to us as we drank our ale.

this pandemic is a crisis of the old ways vs the new ways.

 

[Leongsam]

let's try to break it down...

big tech was the top beneficiary of the pandemic forcing the adoption of new tech.

pharam is "threatening" to end the pandemic with their vaccines and get us back to the old ways.

so I don't see the synergy between the pharam and tech food chains.

media just wants eyeballs. fear sells, nothing new there. they have been sluts since time immemorial. the early journalists were the bards travelling from tavern to tavern and singing tales of the world to us as we drank our ale.

this pandemic is a crisis of the old ways vs the new ways.

In case you have not noticed the vaccinations are not a one off, two off they are going to be administered on an ongoing basis. The excuse of course will be the "variants".

If the fear factor is removed people aren't going to line up regularly for their jabs.

 

[pvtpublic]

In case you have not noticed the vaccinations are not a one off, two off they are going to be administered on an ongoing basis. The excuse of course will be the "variants".

If the fear factor is removed people aren't going to line up regularly for their jabs.

here's the reality facing many parents with young children below 12. what would you advice?

It's ok for us older farts to get vaxed, we can live with the risks. but if vax passports come to pass as a requirement for travel, then what should we do for our younger kids? deny them the chance to travel and skip the vaccine?

 

[capamerica]

here's the reality facing many parents with young children below 12. what would you advice?

It's ok for us older farts to get vaxed, we can live with the risks. but if vax passports come to pass as a requirement for travel, then what should we do for our younger kids? deny them the chance to travel and skip the vaccine?

getting advice from someone like leong is like asking hitler if he hates the jews

 

[capamerica]

You have been fooled by the swamp determined to consolidate their gains.

swamp left when Trump got shellacked by 83 Million people.

 

[Leongsam]

here's the reality facing many parents with young children below 12. what would you advice?

It's ok for us older farts to get vaxed, we can live with the risks. but if vax passports come to pass as a requirement for travel, then what should we do for our younger kids? deny them the chance to travel and skip the vaccine?

There won't be any vaccine passports so don't worry about this rubbish.

 

[dieshitneat]

LOL! Its just a flu and ADMIN is not wrong, but yes he is LOL!

Its Just a Flu" (Killer Pandemic)
"Only Fat People Die" (Diverse People Affected)
"Masks Dont Work" (We all wear masks)
"Sweden Herd Immunity" (Sweden Worst in Scandanavia)
"India is doing well" (Now Worst in World, 1 Million Projected dead by August)
"Donald Trump" (Worst President In 232 of US History

Donch be rude to ADMIN priss.