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Buyers, be aware...

Regulate marketing of foreign properties here

Published on Oct 23, 2012


SINGAPOREANS have been buying overseas properties for years.

While it is always a case of buyer beware, there are several disturbing points about the way some overseas properties are marketed here:

Some agents recommend buying several properties instead of one, which encourages over-leveraging.

The selling price of a property is jacked up, with the promise of guaranteed high rental yields.

But, after a few payments, the company files for liquidation and stops payment for the "rent".

The same modus operandi is repeated.

However, there is no recourse for the buyer as this is not considered fraud in the countries where the properties are located.

In some cases, after a buyer signs on the dotted line, puts down a 10 per cent deposit and takes a loan for the remainder, the developer goes bust and the project is left in limbo.

However, the buyer is still liable for the loan, even if the project had failed.

Some agents specialise in buying such loans from banks at distressed prices and pressing for the loan repayments.

The authorities should step in to regulate those from overseas who come to Singapore to market their projects.

If they are giving talks about properties, they should be deemed marketing agents, and should be subject to the same rules as other agents.

If a company wishes to market a project, they must have a bank guarantee of 30 per cent of project value until the completion of the project.


http://www.straitstimes.com/premium...te-marketing-foreign-properties-here-20121023
 
East Ledang Phase 8 Type 30 Corner Terrace for Sales

30'' X 75'' End Lot
Land: 3081 sq ft
Build Up: 3498 sq ft

This is the largest BU size terrace in EL. I understand it is just 500ft shy of a Twin Villa''s build up area. Asking RM1.6million. International Lot.
 
Re: Sutera Utama -3 sty Semi-D for Sales

Taman Sutera Utama semi-D for SALES


42" X 96 "build up, total land is 4400 sq ft

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Re: Sutera Utama -3 sty Semi-D for Sales

Quite a bit of funny characters recently, offered 600k for a place which was selling for 720k. In the end, sold for 720k within 1 month.

Another chap came and offered 500k for a place which in the end sold for 760k. Yet another said he was Singaporean but actually is a foreigner, after the potential buyers kid messed up his place (i could hear the loud kid from my unit), he offered a low price after telling them he wanted to buy earlier.

My friend refused politely, that night, another group came and just put the 2% without saying a word or asking a company to be setup, etc.
They were pretty happy, 2 cluster units in ND, sold for 760k each, terrace in HH, sold for 720k and another for 650k if i am not mistaken.

Tempted by a chap from out of town to sell my cluster but i am not going to sell. Another bro got presented with a pure cash offer but he isn't selling as well.
 
Re: Sutera Utama -3 sty Semi-D for Sales

Hi,

I am interested in Senibong Cove Phase 1 Cluster house. Anyone interested to let go ?

If not, any one has any view on what the current market price ?

Is there something like the URA Caveat for Malaysia or for JB so we can check what is the last transacted price?

Thanks.
 
Do you think the buyers got few hundred thousand to paid for the price above the valuation and somehow they need to pay downpayment $$$ cos bank provide loan based on valuation and not selling price. ????????

The exact same questions that went thru my mind; answer is Yes. There are SOME buyers who have been looking and saving up. Buyers who are aware of the requirement for at least RM250-350k cash to complete the transaction. Buyers who know that they still have 3-6 months pending state consent to save the cash for the balance payment. Buyers who have more than 2 properties and can only take 70% loan from the bank.
 
Wow ..buyer need to pay 20-30% downpayment...wow..plus few hundred K different from Valuation. Bank only value so much lower. what to you think about buying decision. In EL the inter-terrace owner want to sell at 1.1-13m, but nobody willing to pay the price. bank value 650K only.

Can share share which bank value it??
 
Wow ..buyer need to pay 20-30% downpayment...wow..plus few hundred K different from Valuation. Bank only value so much lower. what to you think about buying decision. In EL the inter-terrace owner want to sell at 1.1-13m, but nobody willing to pay the price. bank value 650K only.

cannot be la brother. RM 650k bank valuation for East Ledang Terraces?? I thought conservatively it should be at least RM 800k already.
 
I have this dilemma of choosing to buy East Ledang Terrace (ready unit) of built 2580sqft at RM1.2M or the coming launch of Teega Condo 3+1, 1582sqft also at RM1.2M. Would appreciate help on this.
 
is it becos banks is valuing properties below transacted prices?

funny that no such problems for developers new launches.
 
I have this dilemma of choosing to buy East Ledang Terrace (ready unit) of built 2580sqft at RM1.2M or the coming launch of Teega Condo 3+1, 1582sqft also at RM1.2M. Would appreciate help on this.

always buy landed first then condo ....
condo psf is too expensive at the moment ....
EL is nice , if i hv tha amount of money , definetly EL first ....
 
Landed and condo is not an apple to apple comparison even with the same build up area. Some ppl prefer condos because of facilities and security. At EL, you are also getting these!

Same price, bigger build up and landed. To me it's a no brainer.

Cheers
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I have this dilemma of choosing to buy East Ledang Terrace (ready unit) of built 2580sqft at RM1.2M or the coming launch of Teega Condo 3+1, 1582sqft also at RM1.2M. Would appreciate help on this.

How about my phase 7, garden-facing terrace with 2766 sqft built up at the same price of RM1.2mil?
 
I have this dilemma of choosing to buy East Ledang Terrace (ready unit) of built 2580sqft at RM1.2M or the coming launch of Teega Condo 3+1, 1582sqft also at RM1.2M. Would appreciate help on this.

u can have two, y take one...em100.gif
 
I have this dilemma of choosing to buy East Ledang Terrace (ready unit) of built 2580sqft at RM1.2M or the coming launch of Teega Condo 3+1, 1582sqft also at RM1.2M. Would appreciate help on this.

Hi Serenity - you may want to decide based on your cash flow situation. EL landed has its advantage, but you have to come up with 30% down within 6 months (assuming you already have a mortgage) + you will have to pay for the stamping, legal, etc if you are buying resale.

For, Teega, however, the up front cash is much less. I read in the forum that there will be up front discount + your payment will be spread over 4 years. Based on my experience with Imperia, it took them a year to do the foundation and bill the 2nd 10%. They may also be taking care of stamping, registration and legal expenses.
 
Hi just curious which would u prefer ? Landed or condo?
Amenities or greenery?
 
I have this dilemma of choosing to buy East Ledang Terrace (ready unit) of built 2580sqft at RM1.2M or the coming launch of Teega Condo 3+1, 1582sqft also at RM1.2M. Would appreciate help on this.

Many thanks to all bros and sis whom had replied to my dilemma. I will take Potter advice, take the 2 of them, as both are irresistible. No doubt that the terrace will have to cough out lots of cash, but the loan installment will be more then covered for by the rental income. As for Teega, I need to cough out 10% only and thereafter maybe 1 year later another 10%. The rest will take a mortgage with installment only to kick off when CCC is issued. I would think that is a good leverage.
 
Many thanks to all bros and sis whom had replied to my dilemma. I will take Potter advice, take the 2 of them, as both are irresistible. No doubt that the terrace will have to cough out lots of cash, but the loan installment will be more then covered for by the rental income. As for Teega, I need to cough out 10% only and thereafter maybe 1 year later another 10%. The rest will take a mortgage with installment only to kick off when CCC is issued. I would think that is a good leverage.

From past history, landed is for capital gain and high rise for cashflow.
 
EL terrace at 1.2mil? is it a corner lot?

if it is intermediate lot then the price is really crazy. there are so many advertising at ~800-900K in iproperty.
 
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