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PAPs ganged up to attack LTK!

VIBGYOR

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That is why we need to put more oppositions into parliament. What can 2 MPs and 1 NMP do?

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/Singapore/Story/STIStory_333818.html
Lively debate on jobs credit

By Jeremy Au Yong

SIX MPs - five of whom were from the labour movement - took opposition MP Low Thia Khiang on Tuesday over his criticisms of the Jobs Credit scheme.

In a lively exchange that was a highlight in the debate on the Budget Statement, the MPs took turns disputing the Hougang MP's critical comments of the wage-subsidy scheme.

An abridged version of this was repeated a few hours later when Nominated MP Siew Kum Hong agreed that the scheme would not save jobs.

At one stage, even labour chief Lim Swee Say jumped in to defend the scheme.

On his part, Mr Low grew progressively more opposed to the scheme as the 20-minute exchange wore on.

While he started by expressing doubt over the scheme's ability to save jobs, somewhere in the middle of the exchange he stated plainly: 'I don't think it works.'

The cut and thrust of the debate was sparked off by Mr Low questioning whether the $4.5 billion initiative would be effective in staving off retrenchments.

The proposed scheme gives bosses a 12 per cent cash grant on the first $2,500 of wages for every local resident worker on their CPF payroll. The grants are paid quarterly.

Mr Low questioned if this system would save jobs in companies where sales could not sustain overhead costs.

'Between waiting three months for $900 cash rebate from the Government versus saving $7,500 immediately by retrenching a worker, which choice does the Government think a struggling employer will make?' he asked.

He then suggested the scheme will simply benefit profitable companies that have no intention of retrenching workers.

Using supermarket operators Sheng Siong and NTUC Fairprice as examples, he asked: 'Are we using our reserves to increase the profits of profitable companies in this downturn?'

Other MPs were quick to respond, pinning him down on whether he believed the scheme had no benefits.

Mr Yeo Guat Kwang (Aljunied GRC) asked if Mr Low was aware that the savings from the scheme will spur Sheng Siong to open more outlets, each one creating 80 more jobs.

Ms Jessica Tan (East Coast GRC) asked if he was aware that the scheme was targeted at making Singaporeans more attractive to employers.

Mr Low maintained a tone of scepticism until Mr Heng Chee How (Jalan Besar GRC) asked him pointedly if he thought the subsidy would not reduce the risk of retrenchment. Then, his scepticism turned into full-blown opposition.
 

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congo9

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Mr Yeo Guat Kwang (Aljunied GRC) asked if Mr Low was aware that the savings from the scheme will spur Sheng Siong to open more outlets, each one creating 80 more jobs.

Wah liao wei , what kind of PEA brain this MP has ? I really don know how he think that this saving will SPUR SHENG SIONG to opem more outlet ??? He think open one supermart outlet is like CHILD PLAY ? It involve millions of dollar per venture ! One supermart can create 80 jobs ? I think may be more then 60% will be taken by Malaysians and PRC.





Ms Jessica Tan (East Coast GRC) asked if he was aware that the scheme was targeted at making Singaporeans more attractive to employers.

Making more SIngaporean more attractive to employer ? With the kind of PRC coming in at $800 per month ...... how on earth does JOB CREDIT make Singaporean more attractive to employ ?


Mr Low maintained a tone of scepticism until Mr Heng Chee How (Jalan Besar GRC) asked him pointedly if he thought the subsidy would not reduce the risk of retrenchment. Then, his scepticism turned into full-blown opposition

How much does the JOB credit mean to the employer ? If i can save outright 7k Vs a $900 and wait for 3 month , what do you think i do ?


IN ESSENCE , our PAP MPs are good for nothing !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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That is why we cannot blame the opposition for not speaking up in parliament. When human talks, all the dogs start barking at him. So is Sheng Shiong opening up more branches?
 

silverfox@

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Does Low Thia Khiang offer any alternative? He can say the Jobs Credit Scheme sucks, but does he have a better solution to that?

I would like to hear about it:wink:
 

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Does Low Thia Khiang offer any alternative? He can say the Jobs Credit Scheme sucks, but does he have a better solution to that?

I would like to hear about it:wink:

The whole aim of the Jobs Credit scheme is to save jobs. I remember opposition suggesting to set up a panel to evaluate if there are justifications for an employer to retrench, case by case basis. Can't remember which opposition party suggested it though. May not be WP but SDA or SDP.

Has it been done? No. PAP always want to tap these employers as their potential PAP candidates and do not want to offend them. That is why they refuse to take this way.
 

iamelite

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Talk is cheap..
We'll see how many opposition enters the parliament.
Maybe if the opposition can attract more able people..
I really don't thinK i want to vote someone who wears slippers to the election department ..
 

SamuelStalin

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Where exactly is that Eunice Olsen and why didn't she chip in? :smile:

That is why we need to put more oppositions into parliament. What can 2 MPs and 1 NMP do?

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/Singapore/Story/STIStory_333818.html
Lively debate on jobs credit

By Jeremy Au Yong

SIX MPs - five of whom were from the labour movement - took opposition MP Low Thia Khiang on Tuesday over his criticisms of the Jobs Credit scheme.

In a lively exchange that was a highlight in the debate on the Budget Statement, the MPs took turns disputing the Hougang MP's critical comments of the wage-subsidy scheme.

An abridged version of this was repeated a few hours later when Nominated MP Siew Kum Hong agreed that the scheme would not save jobs.

At one stage, even labour chief Lim Swee Say jumped in to defend the scheme.

On his part, Mr Low grew progressively more opposed to the scheme as the 20-minute exchange wore on.

While he started by expressing doubt over the scheme's ability to save jobs, somewhere in the middle of the exchange he stated plainly: 'I don't think it works.'

The cut and thrust of the debate was sparked off by Mr Low questioning whether the $4.5 billion initiative would be effective in staving off retrenchments.

The proposed scheme gives bosses a 12 per cent cash grant on the first $2,500 of wages for every local resident worker on their CPF payroll. The grants are paid quarterly.

Mr Low questioned if this system would save jobs in companies where sales could not sustain overhead costs.

'Between waiting three months for $900 cash rebate from the Government versus saving $7,500 immediately by retrenching a worker, which choice does the Government think a struggling employer will make?' he asked.

He then suggested the scheme will simply benefit profitable companies that have no intention of retrenching workers.

Using supermarket operators Sheng Siong and NTUC Fairprice as examples, he asked: 'Are we using our reserves to increase the profits of profitable companies in this downturn?'

Other MPs were quick to respond, pinning him down on whether he believed the scheme had no benefits.

Mr Yeo Guat Kwang (Aljunied GRC) asked if Mr Low was aware that the savings from the scheme will spur Sheng Siong to open more outlets, each one creating 80 more jobs.

Ms Jessica Tan (East Coast GRC) asked if he was aware that the scheme was targeted at making Singaporeans more attractive to employers.

Mr Low maintained a tone of scepticism until Mr Heng Chee How (Jalan Besar GRC) asked him pointedly if he thought the subsidy would not reduce the risk of retrenchment. Then, his scepticism turned into full-blown opposition.
 

hockbeng

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This credit that credit, rebate this rebate that is not going to work. No jobs are going to be saved. The $ given back is kachang puteh to companies trying to survive.

Why?

Cos it HIGH PROPERTY PRICES AND RENTALS THAT ARE KILLING SPOREANS, SPORE AND ALL COMPANIES THAT OPERATE HERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PROPERTY COMPANIES OF COURSE
 

hockbeng

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YES! THE QUALITY OF THE REPLIES AND ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION BY OUR ELECTED MPS ARE REALLY POOR.

CANT IMAGINE THEY ARE WORTH 15k PER MONTH!

SPUR SHENG SIONG TO OPEN MORE OUTLET COS GOT JOB CREDIT! WAH LAO EH! DAMN FUNNY MAN! SOUNDS LIKE KINDERGARTEN CHILD TALKING! HE THINK SHENG SIONG BOSS SO STUPID AH? IF THERE IS OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN MORE OUTLET TO MEET DEMAND, SS WILL OPEN WITH OR WITHOUT JOB CREDIT.

JOB CREDIT CAN'T POSSIBLY MAKE SPOREANS MORE ATTRACTIVE AS EMPOLYEES. HOW TO COMPETE WITH PRC OR INDIA WORKERS WHO WORK FOR A FRACTION OF OUR WAGES AND DO NOT HAVE A WHOLE FAMILY TO SUPPORT IN SPORE.
 

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Does Low Thia Khiang offer any alternative? He can say the Jobs Credit Scheme sucks, but does he have a better solution to that?

I would like to hear about it:wink:

even if ltk could, i doubt the paps would acknowledge or even use it. it would embarrass themselves that 80 heads lost out to 1.

the crunch of the matter now is paps should be looking at lowering operating costs. many were shouting at them to do that way back about the exhorbitant cost of doing biz here.

GST should be scaled back. this would help practically everyone - from babies to every adults. then there are rentals for shops, hawkers and offices etc. what about public transport? and there are alot more.

however, i think the gov would use this one fatal sweep excuses to kill the suggestion:

if we lower gst and others cash cows money making instruments, how are we gonna help the peasants? (or should it be helping ourselves? sssshh!)
 

guavatree

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old faggot temple thief Bob Sim not embarrass!!!

paps would acknowledge or even use it. it would embarrass themselves that 80 heads lost out to 1.

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, hypocrite, deceiver, all rolled into one!

your PAP prostitute masters where got embarrass one.

did you learn stealing cheating conning deceiving swindling from your PAP prostitutes?
 

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Re: old faggot temple thief Bob Sim not embarrass!!!

Why are you all surprise?

It is a entry criteria before they are put on the wagon of GRC to enter the parliment.

When opposition speak bully them. If 1 PAP counter with a witty reply. Laugh and sneer, if old man speak. Look up attentively and nob the head up and down silently in agreement.

If you think that I am talking rubbish. Watch it when parliment is in progress. It has been going on since Jaya time..

Vote for opposition and convince 2 others to do likewise
 

Lestat

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Lower demand means lesser need for staffs. Lesser need for staffs translate to retrenchment. To keep the company in operation, this is the NECESSARY step to deal with. What's the whole point of pumping money to companies to keep staffs by offering cash back for every SG worker kept in the workforce, when the actual amount required to keep them far outweights the amount which will be given back to the comapnies?

Somebody should just slap the minitoots silly.

It's simple logic, and yet nobody drawing million dollar salary is willing to face the facts. :mad:
 

wizard

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Open the door for FT. Now sinkie in trouble, try to save job by their credit scheme. Solving their past mistake or solving present problem.

can we have FT minister?
 
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