Pakistan's bloody lessons for famiLEE LEEgime, bleeding from Both front & back

[uncleyap]

Double headed snake gets whacked from both sides!

Pakistan want to befriend both US/NATO & the Islamic Militants, they are eventually getting attacked by BOTH. Pakistan kept Osama Bin Laden safe for some time, but eventually let US in to kill him. In the whole string of conflicts Pakistan only get attacked by both sides. Bombs from NATO and bombs from militants flies within their territory and making them a war zone.


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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;新华网伊斯兰堡１１月２６日电（记者殷夏　张琪）据巴基斯坦媒体２６日报道，北约武装直升机当天上午对该国西北部莫赫曼德部落地区一检查站发动空袭，造成２５人死亡、１５人受伤。<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;报道说，死者中包括多名巴基斯坦安全部队人员，伤者已被直升机送往医院，其中至少７人伤势严重。<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;巴基斯坦军方向媒体证实北约发动了此次袭击，但没有说明具体人员伤亡情况和有多少架北约直升机参与袭击。<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;莫赫曼德是巴基斯坦的７个部落地区之一，与阿富汗接壤，是塔利班反政府武装和“基地”组织比较活跃的地区。</div>
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新加坡李家王朝的李老狗经常自作聪明两面卖乖两面讨好，今日的巴基斯坦就是李老狗贼最佳的榜样。理所当然的是两头蛇当然也在妄图两面讨好的同时两面开罪，成了猪八戒里外不是人，遭至两面挨打，两颈挨刀！</div>
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巴基斯坦就是既要和美国合作又要保持和回教民兵的亲密关系。所以北约也炸它，民兵也炸它。现在下场是：背腹受敌。前后夹攻。 两面都是血淋淋的。</div>
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[uncleyap]

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[uncleyap]

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/11/26/pakistan_nato_soldiers_attacked_our_troops.html

Pakistan: NATO Soldiers Attacked Our Troops
25 Pakistani soldiers reportedly killed at military checkpoint in helicopter attack.
By Ben Johnson | Posted Saturday, Nov. 26, 2011, at 11:20 AM ET
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134113459 (Activists of Islami Jamiat Tulba (IJT), the student wing of a Pakistani Islamic and political party Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), shout slogans against NATO strikes during a protest in Lahore on November 26, 2011. Pakistan accused NATO of killing 26 soldiers in a blistering air strike, protesting in the strongest terms to the US and closing the main border for NATO supplies into Afghanistan.)

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An already fragile diplomatic situation between the U.S. and Pakistan just got worse.

Saturday officials in Pakistan accused NATO of killing 25 soldiers in two helicopter attacks on military checkpoints on the border with Afghanistan, according to The New York Times.

“This incident is highly regrettable and condemnable,” Kyber-Pakhtunkhwa Province governor Masood Kausar told a local television network, according to the Times. “This is not a small incident. It is being taken very seriously.”

Pakistan’s Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani strongly condemned the attacks, and the country closed the border crossing in response, blocking NATO supplies from entering Afghanistan.

The country’s northwestern border with Afghanistan has been a flashpoint in the Afghanistan War, and U.S. officials have complained that Pakistan’s policing of the area — significant because Taliban fighters and other militants have used it for cross-border attacks — has been poorly coordinated.

The BBC reports that the attack came at around 2 a.m. local time at the Salala checkpoint, just 1.5 miles from the Afghan border, and was allegedly carried out by the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force. NATO officials said they were conducting a thorough investigation of the incident.

I.S.A.F. commander Gen. John R. Allen made a statement, saying:

“My most sincere and personal heartfelt condolences go out to the families and loved ones of any members of Pakistan Security Forces who may have been killed or injured.”

Tensions have been high between the U.S. and Pakistan since the May raid that killed Osama Bin Laden — an action carried out unilaterally by American elite military forces without the knowledge of Pakistan’s military despite being well within its borders.

The airstrike would prove the deadliest such attack in the 10-year war in Afghanistan.

 

[QXD]

Bastard commie Yap,

So now you becoming a fucking foreign affairs guru huh? You think you got it pat with a solution for terrorism? Wow.

Fuck you understand, I hope the last thing you see is a fucking keling terrorist ass-raping you while chanting extremist slogans before he shoots you in the head.

 

[uncleyap]

Bastard commie Yap,

So now you becoming a fucking foreign affairs guru huh? You think you got it pat with a solution for terrorism? Wow.

Fuck you understand, I hope the last thing you see is a fucking keling terrorist ass-raping you while chanting extremist slogans before he shoots you in the head.

Communist are today too soft and friendly and money minded to be of any real interest to me.

It would be of great entertainment value however to see something really hard and effective and colourful to emerge to take the really lacking role to this world stage. I am willing to sit down and watch that. For a good piece of bait you can be used, you are a legitimate bait and I wont' feel guilty at all to watch you torn up and eaten by the beast since you are against them. It is my exciting entertainment to watch that in a sofa.

 

[uncleyap]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-29/pakistan-plans-to-cut-ties-with-us-over-attack/3700528

Pakistan threatens to cut US ties

Posted November 29, 2011 09:17:14
Funerals held for Pakistani soldiers Photo: The NATO attack killed 24 Pakistani soldiers. (Reuters: Mian Khursheed )
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Pakistan's prime minister Yusuf Raza Gilani has ruled out "business as usual" with the United States after a NATO attack killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

Saturday's air strikes on Pakistan's border with Afghanistan have complicated US attempts to ease a crisis in relations with Islamabad and stabilise the region before foreign combat troops leave Afghanistan.

"Business as usual will not be there," Mr Gilani told CNN when asked if ties with the United States would continue.

"We have to have something bigger so as to satisfy my nation.

"You cannot win any war without the support of the masses," he added. "We need the people with us."

The relationship, he said, would continue only if based on "mutual respect and mutual interest."

Asked if Pakistan was receiving that respect, Mr Gilani replied: "At the moment, not."

Pakistan's army has threatened to drastically curtail cooperation with Washington on Afghanistan in the wake of the attack.

"This could have serious consequences in the level and extent of our cooperation," military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said.

Pakistan has a long history of ties to militant groups in Afghanistan and is uniquely positioned to help bring about a peace settlement, a top foreign policy and security goal for the Obama administration.

Washington believes Islamabad can play a critical role in efforts to pacify Afghanistan before all NATO combat troops pull out in 2014, and cannot afford to alienate its ally.

Pakistan shut down NATO supply routes into Afghanistan in retaliation for the weekend incident, the worst of its kind since Islamabad allied itself with Washington in 2001.

"We have been here before. But this time it's much more serious," said Farzana Sheikh, associate fellow of the Asia program at Chatham House in London.

"The government has taken a very stern view. It is not quite clear at this stage what more Pakistani authorities can do, apart from suspending supplies to NATO forces in Afghanistan."

Adding a new element to tensions and a diplomatic boost for Islamabad, Pakistan's ally China said it was "deeply shocked" by the incident and expressed "strong concern for the victims and profound condolences for Pakistan".

Russia, which has been seeking warmer relations with Pakistan as worry grows over the NATO troop pullout in Afghanistan, said it was "unacceptable" to violate the sovereignty of states even when hunting "terrorists."

NATO described the killings as a "tragic, unintended incident." US officials say a NATO probe and a separate American probe will seek to determine what really happened.

Reuters

Topics: unrest-conflict-and-war, world-politics, afghanistan, pakistan, united-states

 

[Forvendet]

Why would NATO troops attack Pakistani troops if unprovoked? The reverse question is easier answered. Plenty of reasons for Pakistani troops to provoke or attack them first. The top two reasons are of course religion and stupidity. There're others, you go figure.

 

[Fook Seng]

Why would NATO troops attack Pakistani troops if unprovoked? The reverse question is easier answered. Plenty of reasons for Pakistani troops to provoke or attack them first. The top two reasons are of course religion and stupidity. There're others, you go figure.

Back to the same story? Trying to change the Govt? These things inevitably give you unexpected results.

 

[Forvendet]

Back to the same story? Trying to change the Govt? These things inevitably give you unexpected results.

Every country has two macro-politics, domestic and international. When the two agenda clash, yes, you get unexpected results.

 

[uncleyap]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tagon-on-NATO-strike/articleshow/10970025.cms

Pakistan has right to self-defence, so does US: Pentagon on NATO strike
PTI | Dec 3, 2011, 04.13PM IST
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US has right to self-defense as Pak does: Pentagon?
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WASHINGTON, With Pakistan vowing to respond with "full force" to any future aggression in the wake of the deadly NATO strike, the Pentagon has said that Islamabad has the right to self-defence and so does the US.

It also admitted that the last Saturday air strike that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers has had a "chilling effect" on US-Pak military relations.

"I've seen the comments attributed to General Kayani. I'm certainly not going to speak for him or for the government of Pakistan.

"But every sovereign nation has the right of self-defense and the right to order their troops to defend themselves. That's what my understanding is what he did: He reiterated their right of self-defense. We certainly respect that right of his. We have it as well," Pentagon spokesman Navy Capt John Kirby told reporters yesterday.

He was repsonding to questions about Pakistan army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani ordering his troops to respond with "full force" to any further "act of aggression" by NATO forces.

Kirby also said, "I think it's safe to say that the incident has had a chilling effect on our relationship with the Pakistani military, no question about that. Both sides deem it to be as serious as it was."

 

[uncleyap]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...llapse-chinese-daily/articleshow/10979354.cms

US-Pakistan ties close to collapse: Chinese daily

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BEIJING: The death of two dozen Pakistani soldiers in a NATO attack was a "symbolic event indicating the progressive deterioration" of US-Pakistan bilateral ties, a Chinese daily said Sunday.

Pakistan reacted to the Nov 26 NATO air strike by closing the supply lines for US and NATO troops and also demanded American troops to leave the Shamsi air base in the country.

"This is the worst setback for the US-Pakistan anti-terrorism coalition since its establishment 10 years ago, and also a symbolic event indicating the progressive deterioration of US-Pakistan relations after the (Raymond) Davis case and the death of Osama bin Laden earlier this year," the People's said wrote in an opinion piece.

Davis was a CIA contractor who shot dead two Pakistani men in Lahore. The US government had to intervene after he was arrested.

"The US-Pakistan anti-terrorism coalition is about to collapse," it said, adding that different strategic objectives were the basic causes behind the unsustainable relationship.

"An important reason leading the anti-terrorism coalition to the verge of collapse is that the US follows no rules in its anti-terrorism actions," it said.

"The US always says 'rules must be followed' on the one hand, but on the other hand it ignores basic principles of international law while conducting anti-terrorism activities in Pakistan and Afghanistan," it said.

US drones have "recklessly trampled on Pakistan's sovereignty, security and territorial integrity", and caused casualties of Pakistani civilians as well as soldiers.

The killing of bin Laden by US special troops in May reveals America's selfishness and distrust in Pakistan, the daily said.

The US never never regarded Pakistan as an equal anti-terrorism partner.

Since the beginning of 2011, the Pakistani government has been facing "heavy domestic pressure" about the anti-terrorism alliance.

Pakistani people regard the US crossing of the Pakistani border to kill bin Laden as a "public insult to their country" and have started to question the Pakistani army's capacity to defend the country.

The relationship between Pakistan and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) has also "dropped to the freezing point", it said.

"If the US does not change its policies and take measures to guarantee Pakistan's sovereign and security, the alliance will inevitably come to an end," the daily concluded.

 

[uncleyap]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/world/2011-12/04/c_122372502.htm

巴基斯坦将“还击”北约袭击
2011年12月04日 09:09:05
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【德新社伊斯兰堡12月2日电】有媒体今天报道说，巴基斯坦已授权边境哨所的指挥官对北约驻阿富汗部队今后对巴发动的任何袭击予以还击．

这一指令是在11月26日北约空袭摧毁巴基斯坦两个边境哨所并造成24名巴军人丧生、13人受伤后作出的。

巴基斯坦《论坛快报》和其他国内媒体报道说，陆军参谋长阿什法克·佩尔韦兹·基亚尼将军本周发出了一份书面指令，重新审视了指挥系统。

报道援引防务分析师、退役将军阿卜杜勒·加尧姆的话说，新命令取消了军官对在巴基斯坦领空实施敌对行动的北约飞机实施还击之前请示总部的义务。

【路透社伊斯兰堡12月2日电】巴基斯坦陆军参谋长基亚尼今天发表公报说：“我不希望任何级别的指挥官对交战原则有任何疑问。”

基亚尼在公报中说：“如果受到任何袭击，你们有利用一切可用资源作出强力回应的全部自由。你们无须为此获得任何许可。”

【俄罗斯《晨报》12月2日报道】题：巴基斯坦将向北约开火

巴基斯坦政府允许士兵在一旦出现威胁征兆的情况下，可以不等命令直接向北约军队开火。这一决定是对北约直升机11月26日袭击巴军哨所的回应。

据印度-亚洲新闻社报道，巴陆军参谋长基亚尼今天向军队发表讲话称，未来任何针对巴军人的侵略都将遭到“不计代价和后果的全力还击”。他表示，今后如遇到类似情况，巴军人可以自行作出还击决定，无须坐等上级的指令。

基亚尼强调，他本人“完全相信”巴军官兵的能力和决心，并对官兵们在反击侵略时表现出来的英勇精神感到骄傲。他说：“请相信，我们不会让侵略者安然离去。”

基亚尼表示，如果不是通讯系统不畅，那场冲突的结果可能会不一样。他解释说：“由于通讯中断，没能及时作出决策，因为各级指挥部门；包括最高指挥部，都不清楚（发生了什么）。”

重大调整 或将引发紧张

【路透社伊斯兰堡12月2日电】巴基斯坦陆军参谋长今天说，巴基斯坦靠近阿富汗边境地区的巴方指挥官在遭到袭击时可以无须等待许可就予以还击。这一政策变化可能引发紧张局势。’

一名军方人士解释说，这相当于守卫西部边境的巴基斯坦军队的规定发生了变化。

这名因无权对媒体发表讲话而不愿具名的人士说：“过去，我们只是实行自卫或对激进分子进行还击。我们赋予了哨所更多应对的余地：如果遭到袭击，他们在是否还击的问题上无须等待上头的命令。”

地方指挥官自主权的增加可能会加剧这一难以控制的边境山区的紧张局势。激进分子和部落成员每天都在这里来来往往。防务分析师．退役将军塔拉特·马苏德说：“这样的授权存在某些固有的风险，可能产生预料之外的后果。”

【德新社伊斯兰堡12月2日电】北约空袭进一步加剧了巴基斯坦与其西方盟国之间的紧张关系。

针对巴边境哨所获准进行还击以及每个国家都有权进行自卫的报道，美国五角大楼发言人约翰·柯比说：“我想可以很有把握地说，这一事件对我们与巴基斯坦军方的关系产生了非常恶劣的影响，这是毫无疑问的。”

他说：“我对他（基亚尼）这一做法的理解是：他重申了他们自卫的权利。我们当然尊重他的这一权利。我们也有自卫的权利。”

【法新社华盛顿12月2日电】五角大楼今天说，巴基斯坦拒绝参与美国军方对造成24名巴军人死亡的空袭的调查。

美国邀请巴基斯坦在对11月26日北约空袭事件的调查中开展合作，但遭到巴官员的拒绝。

五角大楼新闻秘书乔治·利特尔说：“到目前为止他们选择不参与，但我们欢迎他们参与。”

【路透社柏林12月2口电】德国外交部今天说，巴基斯坦已经正式退出了将于下周在德国波恩举行的有关阿富汗问题的国际会议。

巴基斯坦周二表示，作为对造成24名巴军人丧生的北约跨境袭击的回应，巴计划退出此次会议。

德国外交部说，巴基斯坦外长希娜·拉巴尼·哈尔今晚通过电话告诉德国外长吉多·韦斯特韦勒，她的国家将不会派出代表团，但祝愿会议取得成功。

外交部说：“外长韦斯特韦勒说，他对巴拒绝邀请表示遗憾，但承诺将向巴方密切通报会议的进展和结果。”

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【美联社伊斯兰堡12月2日电】巴基斯坦军方官员今天说，上周末，美国官员在就袭击巴边境地区的激进分子一事征求巴方许可时，向巴军人提供了错误的地点。这次袭击造成24名巴军人死亡，并使华盛顿与伊斯兰堡的关系陷入重大危机。

两国官员为解释在上周美军飞机轰炸巴基斯坦两个边境哨所之前和轰炸过程中所发生的事情提出了一系列说法，这是其中最新的一种。

北约和美国对造成巴军人死亡表示遗憾，但拒绝接受巴方关于这是蓄意侵略的说法。

这一事件使华盛顿与伊斯兰堡之间业已紧张的关系几近破裂，使美国在谈判结束阿富汗战争方面获得巴基斯坦帮助的希望复杂化。为报复这次袭击，伊斯兰堡封锁了从巴境内通往阿富汗的北约后勤补给线。

在周五祷告结束后，巴基斯坦全国各地成千上万名伊斯兰极端主义者和其他示威者走上街头，抗议11月26日的袭击。有人要求军队袭击驻阿富汗的以美国为首的盟军。这些口号对西方来说是令人担心的迹象，因为这表明袭击事件引发的愤怒情绪正使强硬派和军队团结在一起。

美国官员告诉记者，11月26日，美国和阿富汗联合巡逻队遭到塔利班武装分子的迫击炮和小型武器的袭击，要求支援。

他们说，在还击之前，巡逻队首先与巴基斯坦军方进行了核对，巴军方称其在该地区并没有部队。

《华尔街日报》今天报道，美国官员说，巴基斯坦军队对这次袭击“予以放行”。这种说法暗示，巴基斯坦至少要为这次致命错误承担部分责任。

因信息敏感性而不愿具名的一名巴基斯坦军方官员证实，美国人向巴方提供了计划袭击的地点。

不过他说，信息来晚了，巴方根本没有批准这次袭击，美国提供的坐标也是错误的。

他说：“在袭击开始前几分钟，巴基斯坦官员收到了关于作战区域的错误信息。在没有得到巴方许可的情况下，美国的直升机和喷气式战斗机就对哨所发动了袭击。”