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halsey02

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paps love putting people with helicopter vision and ivory tower living standards and style. it's a birds of a feather flock together syndrome.

They are still trying, never stop trying & will continue to try, the latest is the Loctor "por de ma", rear specialist..& that won't be the last..
 

Leongsam

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South Africa may not be a thriving metropolis today. But I think the people who stayed behind to rebuild the country have my salute !

They haven't rebuilt a damned thing. It's going downhill on a daily basis.

I was renovating a portion of my house last month and one of the builders was a South African. He told me that when the whites were in charge, there was a rape a week. Now a rape occurs every 15 seconds.

The blacks used to accuse the white cops of treating them in a brutal manner but it's nothing compared to the way they treat each other in today's SA. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/28/man-dies-south-africa-police-van

To those who hanker for the downfall of the PAP, be careful what you wish for.
 

myfoot123

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That's exactly what will happen in Singapore if the govt clamps down on the import of foreign talent. Companies will move out. SMEs will shut down. More and more Singaporeans will be out of work. Those who are employed will see their pay packets shrink dramatically.

The talented Singaporeans will leave for greener pastures leaving the heartlanders to eke out a meagre existence in slums which were once vibrant towns.

Your argument doesn't hold ground. If what you said is true, Japan should be a slum country by now but it still holds the 3rd largest economy in the world. If not, look at israel, they fair so much better than Singapore despite surrounded with threat.
 
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Leongsam

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Your argument doesn't hold ground. If what you said is true, Japan should be a slum country by now but it still holds the 3rd largest economy in the world.

Japan is a homogeneous society with a strong work ethic and a proud tradition of excellence that has lasted for centuries. They aren't as powerful as they used to be but Japanese companies still rule the world in many areas.

Singapore is a rag tag collection of coolies from India and China.

There is simply no comparison.

When Singapore creates the world's largest automobile company, I'll change my mind about Singapore.
 

mesmerised

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So, South Africa should go back to the days of apartheid ?

The PAP of today is a far cry from the past! People respected their views and the way they worked to build Singapore is there for everyone to see. And I do think that these brave men worked tirelessly to prove something cos they came into politics fighting communism, communalism and cultural chauvinism!

Can we say the same of the scholars who rule the civil service and PAP of today ? The PAP has evolved to belief that so long as we can put money in the pockets of its voters , they will be returned to power at each election. The civil servants likewise dare not utter anything that their Ministers may disagree with.

What we need is a few good men... And they can come in white, blue , red or orange!
 

myfoot123

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When Singapore creates the world's largest automobile company, I'll change my mind about Singapore.

Don't harbour that hope as long as PAP remain in power and ASME still addicted to cheap foreign labour. Besides, Automobile company sounds like an alien to Ho Jin, she is a gamble addict too. Nope, we don't have home grown billionaires other than the white stooges. If Singapore has a Lee Kar Sing, I will believe in true meritorcracy, otherwise our scholars are nothing but a pile of tax sucking shit that squirm when their master sneeze. Counting on them is like waiting for a hardboiled egg to hatch into chicken.
 

Leongsam

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So, South Africa should go back to the days of apartheid ?

I have coloured SA friends who have told me exactly that. While their political rights were denied during apatheid rule, their right to pop down to the shops at night was upheld because there was law and order.

They now have voting rights but instead they decided to vote with their feet and emigrate to NZ. They tell me the right to vote cost them the right to feel safe and secure. They left because they were worried for the lives and dignity of their daughters and wives.
 

Leongsam

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Counting on them is like waiting for a hardboiled egg to hatch into chicken.

Singapore has Sim Wong Hoo and what has he done for the country since 2000 other than making some dumbass statement about taking on and beating Steve Jobs to pulp.

There is a dearth of talent in Singapore. Chase out all the foreigners and you're left with nothing. Consider yourself lucky to have LKY at the right time but the country has to accept that its glory days are over no matter who runs the country.
 

mollusk

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I have coloured SA friends who have told me exactly that. While their political rights were denied during apatheid rule, their right to pop down to the shops at night was upheld because there was law and order.

They now have voting rights but instead they decided to vote with their feet and emigrate to NZ. They tell me the right to vote cost them the right to feel safe and secure. They left because they were worried for the lives and dignity of their daughters and wives.

even if the PAP fall, singapore will not become like SA.
 

Leongsam

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even if the PAP fall, singapore will not become like SA.

It may well end up a lot worse. Religious and racial harmony in Singapore is pretty fragile. Without a strong govt, Singapore may well be the next Yugoslavia.
 

myfoot123

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. Chase out all the foreigners and you're left with nothing. Consider yourself lucky to have LKY at the right time but the country has to accept that its glory days are over no matter who runs the country.
Since when Singapore has its glory day? The ministers are all over glorified by the msm. You read too much into 160th ranked Shit Times. The moment the first bungala stepped into our shore, I already foresaw Singapore will meet its doom, decade later I cannot be more right with my prediction.
 

I_Hate_Pappies

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Singapore has Sim Wong Hoo and what has he done for the country since 2000 other than making some dumbass statement about taking on and beating Steve Jobs to pulp.

There is a dearth of talent in Singapore. Chase out all the foreigners and you're left with nothing. Consider yourself lucky to have LKY at the right time but the country has to accept that its glory days are over no matter who runs the country.


This one i "very the" agree! :biggrin: But for now, FUCK PAP! :oIo::oIo::oIo:
 

glockman

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That's exactly what will happen in Singapore if the govt clamps down on the import of foreign talent. Companies will move out. SMEs will shut down. More and more Singaporeans will be out of work. Those who are employed will see their pay packets shrink dramatically.

The talented Singaporeans will leave for greener pastures leaving the heartlanders to eke out a meagre existence in slums which were once vibrant towns.

Haha, thats the doomsday scenario the PAP and short-sighted business leaders want us to believe. The PAP is addicted to ruthless GDP growth and businesses are addicted to cheap labour to improve their bottomline. Now with all the SMEs here, Sporeans are already seeing their pay packets shrink and some are out of work.

South Korean did not yield to pressure from businesses to implement pro-business policies to allow businesses to import cheap FTs to boost their profits. The South Korean economy did not sink from the lack of labor force growth instead flourished with improvements in productivity and innovation. We need to bite the bullet and forge a more sustainable economy.

The Detriot meltdown was caused by the US automobile industry's inability to compete with foreign makers. US workers were lacking in productivity and innovation. Perhaps if they weren't so proud and patriotic, and allowed the import of cheap FTs, Detriot would still be a thriving city. :rolleyes:
 

jw5

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TCJ developed the pappy mentality somewhere along the way.
Unlike keechiu who probably had it since young.
 

Leongsam

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The Detriot meltdown was caused by the US automobile industry's inability to compete with foreign makers. US workers were lacking in productivity and innovation. Perhaps if they weren't so proud and patriotic, and allowed the import of cheap FTs, Detriot would still be a thriving city. :rolleyes:

.... and you're going to tell me Singaporeans are productive and innovative??? :*: Gimme a break. :rolleyes: Singapore isn't even close to the US. If you think sinkies can compete with the Korean on the world stage, you must be in some sort of dreamland.

Have you experienced the Korean work ethic!!!! Singaporeans wouldn't survive a week in Corporate Korea.
 

mesmerised

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TCJ developed the pappy mentality somewhere along the way.
Unlike keechiu who probably had it since young.

TCJ is ambitious... And a thoroughbred PAPy! He will do things to por his superiors and deliver what will appease the masters!

Just like George Yeo,the minute he loses his seat, TCJ will quit politics. They don't give a damn what happens to the man in the street.
 

glockman

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.... and you're going to tell me Singaporeans are productive and innovative??? :*: Gimme a break. :rolleyes: Singapore isn't even close to the US. If you think sinkies can compete with the Korean on the world stage, you must be in some sort of dreamland.

Have you experienced the Korean work ethic!!!! Singaporeans wouldn't survive a week in Corporate Korea.

You may be right to a certain extent. But who is to blame? We know our forefathers were innovative pioneers, before the govt started screwing up our education institutions by putting emphasis on grades and paper qualifications and inculcated a culture of risk aversion. Not to mention the millions of rules and regulations that govern our lives. They wanted an obedient and sedated people.
 
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Leongsam

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You may be right to a certain extent. But who is to blame? We know our forefathers were innovative pioneers,

No they weren't. There were a handful who were good traders but that was about it. The rest of them made a living as small time sole proprietors running provision shops or hawking food. Most were labourers, dockhands, rubber tappers, nightsoil carriers, black and white amahs, sumsui women etc.
 

mesmerised

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Yeah! No Singaporean born guy or gal was good enough to be a doctor , lawyer, engineer , accountant , teachers, military or police commanders. Everyone was imported ! And after 50 years of PAP rule , we are still screwed up! Have to import everything still...even the farmers from PRC have more brains than our spoon fed sinkies, right?

And by your logic, we should continue with the PAPies cos, the thoroughbred Singaporeans will turn us all into worse than coolies.. We will all become "boat people" and our women won't even qualify as maids in South Africa.
 
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