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Is USA really able to fight against China with or without allies?
When the only wars USA won after WW2 were the wars USA fought against Panama and Grenada and Nicaragua.
USA would not even have won in WW2 in the Pacific but for China taking on 80% of the Japan military might in China and killing over 1.5 million Japanese soldiers even though Chinese had very little arms to fight the Japanese. Stalin took on 80% of the Wehrmacht and the cream of Wehrmacht with USA and UK taking on the remaining 20% unfit to fit on the Eastern front or USA would have lost WW2 in Europe.
To date, USA fought wars against goat herders and exfishermen in Afghan and Somali where they were outfought and lost.
Or in Korea when with USA firepower 100 times that of China and yet beaten back south of the Parallel.
Or in Vietnam with firepower 100 times that of VietMinh and China and last seen as
Please do not have war with China.
Do not play games of chicken with China in the South China Sea.
Young men and women of both countries and all countries should smell roses, make love and drink and dine and laugh and go enjoy sunrises and sunsets and play with their kids and children.
Please do not have war with China.
Wuming Chan's answer to Who has a better rocket artillery overall, Russia or the US?
And Saudi Arabia uses Chinese Artillery for the clear advantage over that of the best of USA artillery
Saudis Use Chinese-made Cannons in Yemen
And obsolete Chinese anti tank missile was used to take out M1A1
Wuming Chan's answer to Which weapons can destroy an M1 Abrams tank with one shot?
And forget the bases in Japan , Okinawa and Guam should war breaks out.
USA hoping for Japan to provide them with cannon and missile fodder?
Which is why USA now moving the B2s to station them in Hawaii instead of at Guam.
In the first 20++ minutes, all the bases in Japan and Guam will be cratered and hit by the DongFangs with conventional warheads ensuring their planes cannot take off.
During that time, Japanese command centers will blown up killing all those inside.
See the photos of test sites in Western China of dummy airfields and plane shelters of air and naval bases in Japan being hit so accurately by DFs.
By your own Western military experts. Even if they underestimated the numbers of DFs and Cruise Missiles of China in their reports.
The same way they thought China has only 260 nukes.
The same way Mc Arthur thought no Chinese at all in Korea until Chinese appeared in the hundreds of thousands right within USA and UN troops!
First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia
Then Chinese cruise missiles will fly in their thousands to take out what not taken out in the first 30 minutes. Chinese AShMs will burn and incinerate Japanese Naval assets.
USA K-135 Stratotankers EC-135s and AEWCs will be taken out by China with her very very long range BVRAAMs flying at Mach 6. On day 1 of a war.
Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’
You think you got stealth planes?
CHINA MAY HAVE DEPLOYED UHF YLC-8B ANTI-STEALTH RADAR NEAR TAIWAN STRAIT
China Reveals Prototype Configuration Of Jam Resistant And Counter-Stealth 'Quantum Radar'
Chinese report on YLC-8B radar
USA sending in her F-22, F35s, B1s and B2s?
How difficult is it to detect stealth planes and to target them when the quality of radar Chinese are dealing with can be set to detect not just mosquitoes a few kilometers away.
Whether the mosquito is female or male will also be known.
Your stealth F-22 F35s or B1s B2s got smaller radar profile than a mosquito?
Smaller then the difference between a male and female mosquito?
China Using Radar To Combat Mosquitoes
China is using military technology to wage war ... on mosquitoes
USA or Israeli got any systems able to do that?
Thank you USA for enforcing ban on China in purchasing that from Israel or other countries.
Forcing China to do it all on its own and leaving you either far behind or far far behind.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that filters are in place to ignore normal mosquitoes flying at 10 to 20 km per hour. Any mosquito, or bird, flying at 100 mph or faster will be picked up. China got AI recognition to pick up and pin point faces from videos in cities of a few dozen millions.
Picking up F-22 of radar profile of a bird that travel close to Mach 1 will be a piece of cake.
And sending Mach 6 BVRAAMs to take down that fast flying bird.
Will they hope to hide from the Divine Eagles and more? who then will signal to the BVRAAMs to take them down?
Young men and women of both countries and all countries should smell roses, make love and drink and dine and laugh and go enjoy sunrises and sunsets and play with their kids and children.
Please do not have war with China.
Tracking too USA carriers once past the 3rd Island Chain and knowing where they are every second every minute and every hour.
China is world leader in AI to identify wanted faces captured from many video cameras in cities of 20 to 30 millions using facial recognition.
So showing images like below to try to state complexity of identification is a joke!
Is that much more complex than the seeking and finding of a face using video cameras among 30 miilion faces?
Do try something a thousand times, a hundred thousand times more complex!
China is also heads and shoulders above USA in numbers and power of supercomputers and I can almost guarantee those will be used for identify and track simple ships, bigger ships, naval ships and of course USA carriers once that cross the 3rd Island chain.
Look too, at the images and videos below.
If USA intend on agression, all USA carriers will be seen and targeted once they cross the 3rd Island Chain from satellites and high flying drones from above and sonar detectors on ocean bed. Meant to be there listening to fishes and whales. And of course readily listening to carriers and ships on the surface.
The carriers can run but cannot hide.
See this.
If Chinese satellite can track a moving rocket and follow it on video , keeping it smoothly in center of view, how difficult will it be to track and follow moving US carriers in Pacific?
Tracking by radar is even easier than tracking with video.
And relay telemetry and information to drones and AShMs and DFs?
China not only has many satellites above, very high flying drones at 25,000 meters are also flying. And the sea floor strewn with acoustic sonars. Those are supposed to be listen to fishes . But I can imagine that they are listening to submarines and to turning of big big blades of ships, and carriers.
And the supercomputers of China will not be catching Pokemon monsters or mining Bitcoins. All the signals from satellites and drones and acoustic sonars will be integrated to form a very coherent real time knowledge where what carriers are and their supporting ships and where they are heading and what speed they are going at.
And relay telemetry and information to drones and AShMs and DFs?
Will the carriers be moving faster than the Mach 15++ rocket?
And thousands of Mach 3s AShMs to overwhelm their defences.
USA got any experiences in dealing with those AShMs , and the DF21Ds and DF26Bs?
Meet China latest anti ship ballistic missile CM-401 designed to porpoise to evade defense and hit enemy carriers at Mach 10.
China Reveals Short-Range Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile Designed To Dodge Enemy Defenses
China Reveals Short-Range Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile Designed To Dodge Enemy Defenses
Please do not have war with China.
Do not play games of chicken with China in the South China Sea.
Young men and women of both countries and all countries should smell roses, make love and drink and dine and laugh and go enjoy sunrises and sunsets and play with their kids and children.
Please do not have war with China.
You think this war can ever be stopped once this war is started?
That it will not go on to nuclear war?
When the carriers start to burn and burn that USA will not then be tempted to use nuke on China thinking China only got 260 nukes or so?
But if even one nuke land on China or Chinese forces, USA and all of USA bases around the world from Guam to Okinawa and Japan and Diego Garcia and Singapore and UK and Europe will become lakes and seas of molten glowing green and multicolored glass.
This is what you want to happen?
Read below as to the nukes China is likely to have.
Wuming Chan's answer to Could China's 200 nukes realistically kill more than 50% of the US population in a nuclear war?
Wuming Chan's answer to Which missile can be considered as the world's most dangerous Intercontinental Ballistic missile (ICBM) ?
Will the quarrels and disagreements that lead to this war be relevant or even remembered once the war started?
Can this kind of war ever come to an end once started?
Isnt there enough problems with our Earth that best be addressed together instead of thinking of ways to kill each other and have war with each other?
When the only wars USA won after WW2 were the wars USA fought against Panama and Grenada and Nicaragua.
USA would not even have won in WW2 in the Pacific but for China taking on 80% of the Japan military might in China and killing over 1.5 million Japanese soldiers even though Chinese had very little arms to fight the Japanese. Stalin took on 80% of the Wehrmacht and the cream of Wehrmacht with USA and UK taking on the remaining 20% unfit to fit on the Eastern front or USA would have lost WW2 in Europe.
To date, USA fought wars against goat herders and exfishermen in Afghan and Somali where they were outfought and lost.
Or in Korea when with USA firepower 100 times that of China and yet beaten back south of the Parallel.
Or in Vietnam with firepower 100 times that of VietMinh and China and last seen as
Please do not have war with China.
Do not play games of chicken with China in the South China Sea.
Young men and women of both countries and all countries should smell roses, make love and drink and dine and laugh and go enjoy sunrises and sunsets and play with their kids and children.
Please do not have war with China.
Wuming Chan's answer to Who has a better rocket artillery overall, Russia or the US?
And Saudi Arabia uses Chinese Artillery for the clear advantage over that of the best of USA artillery
Saudis Use Chinese-made Cannons in Yemen
And obsolete Chinese anti tank missile was used to take out M1A1
Wuming Chan's answer to Which weapons can destroy an M1 Abrams tank with one shot?
And forget the bases in Japan , Okinawa and Guam should war breaks out.
USA hoping for Japan to provide them with cannon and missile fodder?
Which is why USA now moving the B2s to station them in Hawaii instead of at Guam.
In the first 20++ minutes, all the bases in Japan and Guam will be cratered and hit by the DongFangs with conventional warheads ensuring their planes cannot take off.
During that time, Japanese command centers will blown up killing all those inside.
See the photos of test sites in Western China of dummy airfields and plane shelters of air and naval bases in Japan being hit so accurately by DFs.
By your own Western military experts. Even if they underestimated the numbers of DFs and Cruise Missiles of China in their reports.
The same way they thought China has only 260 nukes.
The same way Mc Arthur thought no Chinese at all in Korea until Chinese appeared in the hundreds of thousands right within USA and UN troops!
First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia
Then Chinese cruise missiles will fly in their thousands to take out what not taken out in the first 30 minutes. Chinese AShMs will burn and incinerate Japanese Naval assets.
USA K-135 Stratotankers EC-135s and AEWCs will be taken out by China with her very very long range BVRAAMs flying at Mach 6. On day 1 of a war.
Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’
You think you got stealth planes?
CHINA MAY HAVE DEPLOYED UHF YLC-8B ANTI-STEALTH RADAR NEAR TAIWAN STRAIT
China Reveals Prototype Configuration Of Jam Resistant And Counter-Stealth 'Quantum Radar'
Chinese report on YLC-8B radar
USA sending in her F-22, F35s, B1s and B2s?
How difficult is it to detect stealth planes and to target them when the quality of radar Chinese are dealing with can be set to detect not just mosquitoes a few kilometers away.
Whether the mosquito is female or male will also be known.
Your stealth F-22 F35s or B1s B2s got smaller radar profile than a mosquito?
Smaller then the difference between a male and female mosquito?
China Using Radar To Combat Mosquitoes
China is using military technology to wage war ... on mosquitoes
USA or Israeli got any systems able to do that?
Thank you USA for enforcing ban on China in purchasing that from Israel or other countries.
Forcing China to do it all on its own and leaving you either far behind or far far behind.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that filters are in place to ignore normal mosquitoes flying at 10 to 20 km per hour. Any mosquito, or bird, flying at 100 mph or faster will be picked up. China got AI recognition to pick up and pin point faces from videos in cities of a few dozen millions.
Picking up F-22 of radar profile of a bird that travel close to Mach 1 will be a piece of cake.
And sending Mach 6 BVRAAMs to take down that fast flying bird.
Will they hope to hide from the Divine Eagles and more? who then will signal to the BVRAAMs to take them down?
https://thaimilitaryandasianregi...
China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably an interferometer
China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably an interferometer
10,000 Divine Eagle L-band T/R module interferometer / 1,200 F-35 X-band T/R module AESA radar = Eight times greater sensitivity based on module count
Why does China’s Divine Eagle UAV have a maximum altitude of 79,000 feet?
According to Popular Science, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has a maximum altitude of 25km (or 79,000 feet).
In contrast, the US Global Hawk has a maximum altitude of only 18km (or 57,000 feet).
Why does China’s Divine Eagle UAV have a maximum altitude of 79,000 feet?
According to Popular Science, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has a maximum altitude of 25km (or 79,000 feet).
In contrast, the US Global Hawk has a maximum altitude of only 18km (or 57,000 feet).
And Chinese Soar Dragon XiangLong
ANOTHER BIG BIRD
The 7-10 ton Xianglong, with some stealthy features, would make an ideal EW drone thanks to its huge size, and lone endurance. Its unique 20 meter joined tandem wings increase its range and on station time.
http://www.top81.cn, via yexu at China Defense Forum
ANOTHER BIG BIRD
The 7-10 ton Xianglong, with some stealthy features, would make an ideal EW drone thanks to its huge size, and lone endurance. Its unique 20 meter joined tandem wings increase its range and on station time.
http://www.top81.cn, via yexu at China Defense Forum
vacuuming up a wealth of data, for extended periods of time.
The system might also move beyond a surveillance role. Chinese engineers have noted that the Xianglong's large payload, endurance and range makes it ideal for electronic warfare (EW) missions, both for gathering intelligence on electronic activity, as well as carrying jammers to disrupt enemy radars and datalinks. In wartime, the Xianglong's high altitude jammers would seek to disrupt not only the radars of enemy fighters and missiles, but also jam and spoof communications between enemy bombers, airborne early warning and control aircraft, drones and even datalinks between satellites, ships, land based missile launchers and missiles. in such role, the EW Xianglong would operate alongside a host of other Chinese EW aircraft, including Y-9 heavy transport jammers, J-16 and JH-7 strike aircraft, in both offensive and defensive operations.
Now you can tell me about your dog fights and air combats with China when your planes got no bases to take off from or to land and no carriers and no KC135 tankers and no AEWCs and no JSTARS to tell your pilots what the fuck to do.
Please do not have war with China.Young men and women of both countries and all countries should smell roses, make love and drink and dine and laugh and go enjoy sunrises and sunsets and play with their kids and children.
Please do not have war with China.
Tracking too USA carriers once past the 3rd Island Chain and knowing where they are every second every minute and every hour.
China is world leader in AI to identify wanted faces captured from many video cameras in cities of 20 to 30 millions using facial recognition.
So showing images like below to try to state complexity of identification is a joke!
Is that much more complex than the seeking and finding of a face using video cameras among 30 miilion faces?
Do try something a thousand times, a hundred thousand times more complex!
China is also heads and shoulders above USA in numbers and power of supercomputers and I can almost guarantee those will be used for identify and track simple ships, bigger ships, naval ships and of course USA carriers once that cross the 3rd Island chain.
Look too, at the images and videos below.
If USA intend on agression, all USA carriers will be seen and targeted once they cross the 3rd Island Chain from satellites and high flying drones from above and sonar detectors on ocean bed. Meant to be there listening to fishes and whales. And of course readily listening to carriers and ships on the surface.
The carriers can run but cannot hide.
See this.
dafeng cao@dafengcao
Truly god view, Jilin-1 video satellite shot @OneSpace01 OS-X1 suborbital rocket's launch at JSLC this noon.
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Truly god view, Jilin-1 video satellite shot @OneSpace01 OS-X1 suborbital rocket's launch at JSLC this noon.
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If Chinese satellite can track a moving rocket and follow it on video , keeping it smoothly in center of view, how difficult will it be to track and follow moving US carriers in Pacific?
Tracking by radar is even easier than tracking with video.
And relay telemetry and information to drones and AShMs and DFs?
China not only has many satellites above, very high flying drones at 25,000 meters are also flying. And the sea floor strewn with acoustic sonars. Those are supposed to be listen to fishes . But I can imagine that they are listening to submarines and to turning of big big blades of ships, and carriers.
And the supercomputers of China will not be catching Pokemon monsters or mining Bitcoins. All the signals from satellites and drones and acoustic sonars will be integrated to form a very coherent real time knowledge where what carriers are and their supporting ships and where they are heading and what speed they are going at.
And relay telemetry and information to drones and AShMs and DFs?
Will the carriers be moving faster than the Mach 15++ rocket?
And thousands of Mach 3s AShMs to overwhelm their defences.
USA got any experiences in dealing with those AShMs , and the DF21Ds and DF26Bs?
Meet China latest anti ship ballistic missile CM-401 designed to porpoise to evade defense and hit enemy carriers at Mach 10.
China Reveals Short-Range Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile Designed To Dodge Enemy Defenses
China Reveals Short-Range Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile Designed To Dodge Enemy Defenses
Your carriers will be seen and targeted and left burning and burning.
Be very aware of what an AShM with a 300-500 kg semi armour piercing shape charged warhead can do.
Be very aware of what an AShM with a 300-500 kg semi armour piercing shape charged warhead can do.
Current carriers and Burke & Ticonderagos are not armoured. The inner bulkheads will be blown through from one end to the other end and cooking off all the fuel and ammo and rockets inside the hull.
See the video. If an entire ship like above could not contain the hellfire from just one missile seen burning all through the ship, please do not imagine and invoke the often resurrected crap talk of bulkheads and multi spaces containing the blast.
Remember too the missile will not be just the warhead exploding. The rest of the missile of 2 to 3 tons including unburned fuel will be smashing in behind the warhead at Mach 3 to 4, from one end of the ship to the other end of that ship. Faster than the 5 kg of penetrator of an APFSDS, and a lot heavier and deadlier.
Will the captain, and his crew, worry about the carrier sinking or floating after such a hit?
More likely than not, that carrier will be hit 5 to 6 times , and not just once.
USA admirals , and captain of that carrier and brave men and women on board happy carrier only burning and not sinking?
I wish them joy in that comfort the carrier still floating!
Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.
In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.
YJ-12 - Wikipedia
There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .
China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?
This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].
The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.
If USA intend on agression, all USA carriers will be seen and targeted once they cross the 3rd Island Chain from satellites and high flying drones from above and sonar detectors on ocean bed. Meant to be there listening to fishes and whales. And of course readily listening to carriers and ships on the surface.
The carriers can run but cannot hide.
Do USA choose to give China the experience of fighting that kind of war?See the video. If an entire ship like above could not contain the hellfire from just one missile seen burning all through the ship, please do not imagine and invoke the often resurrected crap talk of bulkheads and multi spaces containing the blast.
Remember too the missile will not be just the warhead exploding. The rest of the missile of 2 to 3 tons including unburned fuel will be smashing in behind the warhead at Mach 3 to 4, from one end of the ship to the other end of that ship. Faster than the 5 kg of penetrator of an APFSDS, and a lot heavier and deadlier.
Will the captain, and his crew, worry about the carrier sinking or floating after such a hit?
More likely than not, that carrier will be hit 5 to 6 times , and not just once.
USA admirals , and captain of that carrier and brave men and women on board happy carrier only burning and not sinking?
I wish them joy in that comfort the carrier still floating!
Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.
In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.
YJ-12 - Wikipedia
There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .
China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?
This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].
The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.
If USA intend on agression, all USA carriers will be seen and targeted once they cross the 3rd Island Chain from satellites and high flying drones from above and sonar detectors on ocean bed. Meant to be there listening to fishes and whales. And of course readily listening to carriers and ships on the surface.
The carriers can run but cannot hide.
Please do not have war with China.
Do not play games of chicken with China in the South China Sea.
Young men and women of both countries and all countries should smell roses, make love and drink and dine and laugh and go enjoy sunrises and sunsets and play with their kids and children.
Please do not have war with China.
You think this war can ever be stopped once this war is started?
That it will not go on to nuclear war?
When the carriers start to burn and burn that USA will not then be tempted to use nuke on China thinking China only got 260 nukes or so?
But if even one nuke land on China or Chinese forces, USA and all of USA bases around the world from Guam to Okinawa and Japan and Diego Garcia and Singapore and UK and Europe will become lakes and seas of molten glowing green and multicolored glass.
This is what you want to happen?
Read below as to the nukes China is likely to have.
Wuming Chan's answer to Could China's 200 nukes realistically kill more than 50% of the US population in a nuclear war?
Wuming Chan's answer to Which missile can be considered as the world's most dangerous Intercontinental Ballistic missile (ICBM) ?
Will the quarrels and disagreements that lead to this war be relevant or even remembered once the war started?
Can this kind of war ever come to an end once started?
Isnt there enough problems with our Earth that best be addressed together instead of thinking of ways to kill each other and have war with each other?