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What expensive way! Missiles not FOC!
Better whack accurately. The only reason you need overwhelming fire is to saturate their anti-missiles interception. They will intercept only up to the limits of their capacity, you must overwhelm them, and with some false warheads to waste their interception. e.g. if they could intercept MAX 10 warheads / minute you must shoot 15/min, then they Tiok Liao!
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If you hurl 50 decoys and maybe 10 genuine ones. I am sure their system will be over load.
Last time China uses wave of people to attack the Americans in Korea and Vietnam. Now they can use wave of missile to attack on carrier group. If one of the ships in the carrier group kenna and went on flames. I am sure their defence will be overwhelmed in no time.
When the carrier is on fire, the aeroplane cannot fly to attack target.
Make it short and sweet. Overwhelm them with missile , fake and real . I am sure these carrier group is sitting duck .
Last time China uses wave of people to attack the Americans in Korea and Vietnam. Now they can use wave of missile to attack on carrier group. If one of the ships in the carrier group kenna and went on flames. I am sure their defence will be overwhelmed in no time.
When the carrier is on fire, the aeroplane cannot fly to attack target.
Make it short and sweet. Overwhelm them with missile , fake and real . I am sure these carrier group is sitting duck .
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That is the deal.
Carriers are high value target can justify intensive fire with decoys.
The Russian method (unsure if PLA also) got not only decoys but also radar jammer pods, they will fuck your radar, so you can not guide your interceptors.
Pods usually dive down slower than warheads and stay behind to do several important things:
1. Data-Link relay, relay back to satellites / command center
2. Guidance to warheads
3. Jamming radar
4. Photo of damage / kill / miss
Command center will then know instantly weather they hit was successful, need or need not fire more missiles.
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Chinese reconnaissance satellites can only track aircraft carriers? Can also monitor global military mobilization
Sina Military at 08:54 on August 16, 2018
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High-scoring reconnaissance satellites can track aircraft carrier's whereabouts globally
The "High Score 11" Earth observation satellite launched by China at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center on July 31 may be able to achieve a ground image resolution of 10 cm or less. The British "Jane's Defense Weekly" paid attention to China's latest "High Score 11" satellite on August 14. The magazine believes that this satellite, which is clearly used for military purposes, can reach the US "Keyhole-12". Decimeter resolution, so the technological gap between China and the United States' reconnaissance satellites is disappearing. If this speculation can be confirmed, then China will have satellite imaging capabilities second only to the United States, and may even obtain the maximum resolution comparable to that of US imaging satellites.
The high-scoring reconnaissance satellite is a series of 7-type satellites.
In recent years, China has greatly strengthened its R&D plan for Earth observation satellites (also known as reconnaissance satellites), and in 2010 established a “high score” special project, including the development of seven high-resolution reconnaissance satellites. The "high score" specializes in the sun-synchronous orbit and the geosynchronous orbit, and develops from visible light to microwave in the reconnaissance mode. From the wide-area reconnaissance to the specific target in the scope of investigation, the Chinese military and civilian reconnaissance satellite has been greatly improved. The technical level. The implementation of the "high score" special project has increased the spatial resolution of Chinese reconnaissance satellites from a maximum of 2.1 meters before implementation to 0.8 meters, and the resolution of geosynchronous remote sensing satellites has increased from kilometers to 50 meters, and the low-orbit reconnaissance satellites The design life has been greatly improved from 3 years to 8 years.
The high score x satellite was loaded into the fairing before launch
Due to the characteristics of the "high-scoring" series of satellites, the sorting of these seven kinds of reconnaissance satellites sometimes makes the outside world unable to understand, but from the reports of the official media, they can almost know which category they belong to. For example, at 11:00 on July 31, China successfully launched the "High Score 11" satellite into the orbit with the Long March 4 B carrier rocket at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center. The report mentioned that this is an "optical remote sensing satellite, ground pixel. The resolution is up to the sub-meter level, and the data processing capability is 6~7 times higher than that of the third-generation digital transmission products, and the data transmission capability is increased by 3 times." The so-called "Yami class", which means less than 1 meter, proves that its resolution reaches the decimeter level, and the above mentioned 0.8 meters is within this range.
Keyhole-12's resolution comes from its large aperture lens
This is a huge improvement for China's reconnaissance satellites, but it seems to be somewhat optimistic to catch up with the US. The "Keyhole-12" (KH-12) satellite is the most advanced military reconnaissance satellite in the United States, with a maximum resolution of 0.1 meters. It is the world's highest resolution optical reconnaissance satellite. The reason for this high resolution is that the Keyhole-12 satellite uses a large-caliber camera like the Hubble Space Telescope. It can be said that the "High Score 11" satellite achieves the resolution of "Keyhole-9" in resolution - both are about 0.6 meters, but the life is consistent with "Keyhole-12". - Both are for 8 years.
High score one reveals the significance of China's development of high-scoring special projects
According to the analysis, in fact, Jane’s saying that the "High Score 11" satellite makes the gap between China and the United States' reconnaissance satellite technology disappear is not accurate. If the US "Keyhole-12" can see the title of each newspaper in a newspaper, Then China's "High Score 11" can only see the name of the newspaper. Although the resolutions of both are classified into decimeters, the difference still exists. However, this is a huge improvement for China, because the previous resolution can only be clearly divided into a newspaper, but it is not known what newspaper. For China's technological advancement in reconnaissance satellites, China can track the movement of the US military around the world, and it can grasp the every move of the US military carrier in real time. Even if the US military takes many measures to hide its purpose, it may not escape the eyes of China's reconnaissance satellite. (Author's signature: Military Review Chen Guangwen)
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-08-16/doc-ihhtfwqs0648925.shtml
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中国侦察卫星只能追踪航母？还能监控全球军事调动
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高分侦察卫星可全球追踪航母行踪
中国于7月31日在太原卫星发射中心发射的“高分11号”地球观测卫星，可能能够实现10厘米或更小的地面图像分辨率。英国的《简氏防务周刊》8月14日关注了中国最新发射的“高分11号”卫星，该杂志认为这枚明确用于军事目的的卫星，可以达到美国“锁眼-12”号的分米级分辨率，因此中美的侦察卫星的技术差距正在消失。如果这一推测能得到证实，那么中国将拥有仅次于美国的卫星成像能力，甚至可能获得与美国成像卫星相当的最大分辨率。
高分侦察卫星是一个包含7型卫星的系列
近年来，中国大幅加强了对地观测卫星（也就是侦察卫星）的研发规划，并在2010年建立了“高分”专项，包括研发7种高分辨率侦察卫星。“高分”专项覆盖了太阳同步轨道和地球同步轨道，在侦察方式上从可见光发展到了到微波，在侦查范围上从广域侦察发展到特定目标详查，大幅度提升了中国军民用侦察卫星的技术水平。“高分”专项的实施，使得中国侦察卫星的空间分辨率由实施前的最高2.1米提高到0.8米，地球同步遥感卫星的分辨率由千米级提高到50米，且低轨侦察卫星的设计寿命由3年大幅提高到8年。
高分x号卫星发射前已装入整流罩
由于“高分”系列卫星存在一型多颗的特点，所以这7种侦察卫星的排序让外界有时搞不懂，但从官媒的报道中，几乎能知道它们分别属于哪一类。如7月31日11时，中国在太原卫星发射中心用长征四号乙运载火箭成功将“高分11号”卫星发射入轨，报道中提到这是一颗“光学遥感卫星，地面像元分辨率最高可达亚米级，数据处理能力较第三代数传产品提高了6~7倍，数据传输能力提高了3倍”。所谓“亚米级”，也就是低于1米的意思，证明其分辨率达到了分米级水平，上面所说的0.8米就在这个范围内。
锁眼-12的分辨率来源于其大口径镜头
这对于中国的侦察卫星来说，可谓是巨大的进步，但要说赶上美国的水平，似乎还是有些乐观。“锁眼-12”（KH-12）卫星是美国最先进的军用侦察卫星，最高分辨率达到0.1米，是世界上分辨率最高的光学侦察卫星。之所以能达到这么高的分辨率，是因为“锁眼-12”卫星使用了类似“哈勃”太空望远镜的大口径相机。可以说，“高分11号”卫星在分辨率上达到了“锁眼-9”的分辨率——两者大约都是0.6米左右的水平，但在寿命上与“锁眼-12”一致——两者同为8年。
高分一号揭示中国发展高分专项的意义
分析认为，其实简氏说“高分11号”卫星使中国与美国的侦察卫星技术差距消失并不准确，如果说美国“锁眼-12”号能看清一张报纸每个报道的标题，那么中国的“高分11号”只能看清报纸的名字，两者的分辨率虽然都属于分米级的，但是区别还是存在的。不过，这对于中国来说，已经是十分巨大的进步了，因为此前的分辨率只能大体分清是一张报纸，但究竟是何报纸就不得而知了。对于中国在侦察卫星上的技术进步，使得中国可以在全球追踪美军的调动，更可以实时掌握美军航母的一举一动，即便美军采取诸多手段隐藏自己的目的，恐怕也难逃中国侦察卫星的法眼。（作者署名：军评陈光文）
Chinese reconnaissance satellites can only track aircraft carriers? Can also monitor global military mobilization
Sina Military at 08:54 on August 16, 2018
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The "High Score 11" Earth observation satellite launched by China at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center on July 31 may be able to achieve a ground image resolution of 10 cm or less. The British "Jane's Defense Weekly" paid attention to China's latest "High Score 11" satellite on August 14. The magazine believes that this satellite, which is clearly used for military purposes, can reach the US "Keyhole-12". Decimeter resolution, so the technological gap between China and the United States' reconnaissance satellites is disappearing. If this speculation can be confirmed, then China will have satellite imaging capabilities second only to the United States, and may even obtain the maximum resolution comparable to that of US imaging satellites.
In recent years, China has greatly strengthened its R&D plan for Earth observation satellites (also known as reconnaissance satellites), and in 2010 established a “high score” special project, including the development of seven high-resolution reconnaissance satellites. The "high score" specializes in the sun-synchronous orbit and the geosynchronous orbit, and develops from visible light to microwave in the reconnaissance mode. From the wide-area reconnaissance to the specific target in the scope of investigation, the Chinese military and civilian reconnaissance satellite has been greatly improved. The technical level. The implementation of the "high score" special project has increased the spatial resolution of Chinese reconnaissance satellites from a maximum of 2.1 meters before implementation to 0.8 meters, and the resolution of geosynchronous remote sensing satellites has increased from kilometers to 50 meters, and the low-orbit reconnaissance satellites The design life has been greatly improved from 3 years to 8 years.
Due to the characteristics of the "high-scoring" series of satellites, the sorting of these seven kinds of reconnaissance satellites sometimes makes the outside world unable to understand, but from the reports of the official media, they can almost know which category they belong to. For example, at 11:00 on July 31, China successfully launched the "High Score 11" satellite into the orbit with the Long March 4 B carrier rocket at the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center. The report mentioned that this is an "optical remote sensing satellite, ground pixel. The resolution is up to the sub-meter level, and the data processing capability is 6~7 times higher than that of the third-generation digital transmission products, and the data transmission capability is increased by 3 times." The so-called "Yami class", which means less than 1 meter, proves that its resolution reaches the decimeter level, and the above mentioned 0.8 meters is within this range.
This is a huge improvement for China's reconnaissance satellites, but it seems to be somewhat optimistic to catch up with the US. The "Keyhole-12" (KH-12) satellite is the most advanced military reconnaissance satellite in the United States, with a maximum resolution of 0.1 meters. It is the world's highest resolution optical reconnaissance satellite. The reason for this high resolution is that the Keyhole-12 satellite uses a large-caliber camera like the Hubble Space Telescope. It can be said that the "High Score 11" satellite achieves the resolution of "Keyhole-9" in resolution - both are about 0.6 meters, but the life is consistent with "Keyhole-12". - Both are for 8 years.
According to the analysis, in fact, Jane’s saying that the "High Score 11" satellite makes the gap between China and the United States' reconnaissance satellite technology disappear is not accurate. If the US "Keyhole-12" can see the title of each newspaper in a newspaper, Then China's "High Score 11" can only see the name of the newspaper. Although the resolutions of both are classified into decimeters, the difference still exists. However, this is a huge improvement for China, because the previous resolution can only be clearly divided into a newspaper, but it is not known what newspaper. For China's technological advancement in reconnaissance satellites, China can track the movement of the US military around the world, and it can grasp the every move of the US military carrier in real time. Even if the US military takes many measures to hide its purpose, it may not escape the eyes of China's reconnaissance satellite. (Author's signature: Military Review Chen Guangwen)
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-08-16/doc-ihhtfwqs0648925.shtml
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中国侦察卫星只能追踪航母？还能监控全球军事调动
2018年08月16日 08:54 新浪军事
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中国于7月31日在太原卫星发射中心发射的“高分11号”地球观测卫星，可能能够实现10厘米或更小的地面图像分辨率。英国的《简氏防务周刊》8月14日关注了中国最新发射的“高分11号”卫星，该杂志认为这枚明确用于军事目的的卫星，可以达到美国“锁眼-12”号的分米级分辨率，因此中美的侦察卫星的技术差距正在消失。如果这一推测能得到证实，那么中国将拥有仅次于美国的卫星成像能力，甚至可能获得与美国成像卫星相当的最大分辨率。
近年来，中国大幅加强了对地观测卫星（也就是侦察卫星）的研发规划，并在2010年建立了“高分”专项，包括研发7种高分辨率侦察卫星。“高分”专项覆盖了太阳同步轨道和地球同步轨道，在侦察方式上从可见光发展到了到微波，在侦查范围上从广域侦察发展到特定目标详查，大幅度提升了中国军民用侦察卫星的技术水平。“高分”专项的实施，使得中国侦察卫星的空间分辨率由实施前的最高2.1米提高到0.8米，地球同步遥感卫星的分辨率由千米级提高到50米，且低轨侦察卫星的设计寿命由3年大幅提高到8年。
由于“高分”系列卫星存在一型多颗的特点，所以这7种侦察卫星的排序让外界有时搞不懂，但从官媒的报道中，几乎能知道它们分别属于哪一类。如7月31日11时，中国在太原卫星发射中心用长征四号乙运载火箭成功将“高分11号”卫星发射入轨，报道中提到这是一颗“光学遥感卫星，地面像元分辨率最高可达亚米级，数据处理能力较第三代数传产品提高了6~7倍，数据传输能力提高了3倍”。所谓“亚米级”，也就是低于1米的意思，证明其分辨率达到了分米级水平，上面所说的0.8米就在这个范围内。
这对于中国的侦察卫星来说，可谓是巨大的进步，但要说赶上美国的水平，似乎还是有些乐观。“锁眼-12”（KH-12）卫星是美国最先进的军用侦察卫星，最高分辨率达到0.1米，是世界上分辨率最高的光学侦察卫星。之所以能达到这么高的分辨率，是因为“锁眼-12”卫星使用了类似“哈勃”太空望远镜的大口径相机。可以说，“高分11号”卫星在分辨率上达到了“锁眼-9”的分辨率——两者大约都是0.6米左右的水平，但在寿命上与“锁眼-12”一致——两者同为8年。
分析认为，其实简氏说“高分11号”卫星使中国与美国的侦察卫星技术差距消失并不准确，如果说美国“锁眼-12”号能看清一张报纸每个报道的标题，那么中国的“高分11号”只能看清报纸的名字，两者的分辨率虽然都属于分米级的，但是区别还是存在的。不过，这对于中国来说，已经是十分巨大的进步了，因为此前的分辨率只能大体分清是一张报纸，但究竟是何报纸就不得而知了。对于中国在侦察卫星上的技术进步，使得中国可以在全球追踪美军的调动，更可以实时掌握美军航母的一举一动，即便美军采取诸多手段隐藏自己的目的，恐怕也难逃中国侦察卫星的法眼。（作者署名：军评陈光文）
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Do remember China got over 3,000 AShMs. Those that go at Mach 3 to 4 and fired from outside AEGIS cover. And those that are stealth and go at Mach 1 until 30 km from carrier and then sprinting to Mach 3-4 at wave top level. They carry 500kg warhead in semi armour piercing shape charge.
Remember the tank killer Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS) are fired at Mach 3 speed.
The weight of penetrator is 5kg.
The AShMs body will be another 1000++ kg and unburned rocket fuel at Mach 3 into the fucking ship just behind the exploding warhead.
This video will let you know what you expect of AShM in hitting the ship. Blowing hell fire from one end to the other end of the ship.
Burning any fuel and explosives and ammo in the fucking ship.
I can bet those in carrier being hit by one AShM will not fucking worry if carrier is floating or sinking.
More likely than not, the carrier will be hit by at least 10 AShMs.
Let us also remember about 300 DF-21Ds and DF-26Bs will be fired as well.
USA have 12 carriers, but not more than half of them can be mobilized as half under maintenance.
China do not even need to use decoys. China got 2,000 Silkworms, obsolete and flying at sub Mach speed. But carrying 500kg warhead in semi armour piercing shape charge.
Carriers not armoured, but got lots of bulkheads
The carrier will see blips on radar and can they no hui Silkworms? they still carry 500 kg of very good news.
Silkworms are the decoys and yet not fucking decoys.
Americans lost in 1950 to Chinese when USA firepower 1000 times greater and economy of China more lousy than sub Sahara Africa.
Now the fire power of China is bigger than USA and reach of Chinese missiles far greater than USA.
The fucking Americans will be fucked so bad that USA will need another ten Arlingtons
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China is 'rapidly' expanding bomber training, probably for US strikes – Pentagon
Report finds spending on defence by Beijing exceeded $190bn in 2017 as China seeks to expand its global influence
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A Chinese H-6K bomber patrols the islands and reefs in the South China Sea Photograph: Liu Rui/AP
China’s military has expanded its bomber operations in recent years while “likely training for strikes” against the United States and its allies, a Pentagon report released on Thursday has said.
The assessment was contained in an annual report that highlighted China’s efforts to increase its global influence, with defence spending that the Pentagon estimates exceeded $190bn in 2017.
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“Over the last three years, the PLA [People’s Liberation Army] has rapidly expanded its overwater bomber operating areas, gaining experience in critical maritime regions and likely training for strikes against US and allied targets,” the report said, noting how China is pushing its operations out into the Pacific.
In August 2017, six Chinese H-6K bombers flew through the Miyako Strait in the south-west of the Japanese islands, and then for the first time turned north to fly east of Okinawa, where 47,000 US troops are based.
The report comes as China and the United States plan to hold trade talks, offering hope they might resolve an escalating tariff conflict that threatens to degenerate into an all-out trade war.
The report said that while the PLA had continued to extend operations, it was not clear what message Beijing was seeking to send by carrying out the flights “beyond a demonstration of improved capabilities”.
The Chinese embassy in Washington could not immediately be reached for comment.
This year China’s air force landed bombers on islands and reefs in the South China Sea as part of a training exercise in the disputed region.
In January the Pentagon put countering Beijing, along with Russia, at the centre of a new national defence strategy.
While Washington and Beijing maintain a military-to-military relationship aimed at containing tensions, this has been tested in recent months, notably in May when the Pentagon withdrew an invitation to China to join a multinational naval exercise.
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In June, US defence secretary Jim Mattis became the first Pentagon chief to visit China since 2014.
The Pentagon report said that despite a projected slowdown in economic growth, China’s official defence budget would be more than $240bn by 2028.
The Pentagon report also said China’s space program was progressing rapidly.
“The PLA continues to strengthen its military space capabilities despite its public stance against the militarisation of space,” it said.
This month, President Donald Trump’s administration announced an ambitious plan to usher in a new “Space Force” as the sixth branch of the military by 2020.
One of the arguments in favour of developing such a force is that American rivals like China appear increasingly ready to strike US space-based capabilities in the event of a conflict.
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Chinese bombers likely training for US strikes: Pentagon
A J15 fighter jet landing on China's sole operational aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, during a military exercise. (AFP Photo)
17 Aug 2018 04:08AM (Updated: 17 Aug 2018 03:53PM)
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WASHINGTON: Chinese bombers are likely training for strikes against US and allied targets in the Pacific, according to a new Pentagon report that also details how Beijing is transforming its ground forces to "fight and win."
The annual report to Congress, released on Thursday (Aug 16), highlights China's growing military, economic and diplomatic clout and how Beijing is leveraging this to rapidly build its international footprint and establish regional dominance.
In the case of China's air power, the report states that Chinese bombers are developing capabilities to hit targets as far from China as possible.
"Over the last three years, the PLA (People's Liberation Army) has rapidly expanded its overwater bomber operating areas, gaining experience in critical maritime regions and likely training for strikes against US and allied targets," the document states, noting how China is pushing its operations out into the Pacific.
In August 2017, six Chinese H-6K bombers flew through the Miyako Strait in the southwest of the Japanese islands, and then for the first time turned north to fly east of Okinawa, where 47,000 US troops are based.
The PLA may demonstrate the "capability to strike US and allied forces and military bases in the western Pacific Ocean, including Guam," the report says.
LARGEST GROUND FORCE
China is engaged in a decades-long build-up and modernisation of its once-backward armed forces, and military leaders have set a goal of fielding a world-class military by 2050.
President Xi Jinping last year ordered the PLA to step up efforts, saying China needed a military ready to "fight and win" wars.
The call has alarmed China's neighbours, several of whom are embroiled in tense border disputes with the superpower.
According to the Pentagon, the PLA in April 2017 undertook a massive transformation of operational and tactical units as part of its structural reforms.
With nearly a million troops, the PLA is the largest standing ground force in the world.
"The purpose of these reforms is to create a more mobile, modular, lethal ground force capable of being the core of joint operations and able to meet Xi Jinping's directive to 'fight and win wars,'" the report notes.
China's military budget for 2017 was about US$190 billion, according to the report, far behind the Pentagon's annual budget of about US$700 billion.
When the Pentagon released its annual report last year, Beijing dismissed it as "irresponsible" in predicting that China would expand its global military presence by building overseas bases in countries like Pakistan.
This year's report reiterates that China will seek to establish new bases in countries such as Pakistan.
Key to this expanding footprint is China's "belt and road" initiative that seeks to bolster ties with other nations through lending and infrastructure deals.
TAIWAN 'CONTINGENCY'
The document also shines a light on China's ongoing military preparations for a "contingency" in the Taiwan Strait.
Officially, China advocates for a peaceful reunification with Taiwan, but it has never repudiated the use of military force, the document notes.
"The PLA also is likely preparing for a contingency to unify Taiwan with China by force, while simultaneously deterring, delaying, or denying any third-party intervention on Taiwan’s behalf," it states.
"Should the United States intervene, China would try to delay effective intervention and seek victory in a high-intensity, limited war of short duration."
To the ire of regional neighbours, China has built a series of islets and ocean features into military facilities in the South China Sea.
Activists protest in front of the Chinese consulate in Manila against Beijing's claims in the South China Sea. (AFP/TED ALJIBE)
Beijing has now stopped substantial land reclamation. "However, it continued to build infrastructure at three outposts," the report says.
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China is 'rapidly' expanding bomber training, probably for US strikes – Pentagon
Report finds spending on defence by Beijing exceeded $190bn in 2017 as China seeks to expand its global influence
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A Chinese H-6K bomber patrols the islands and reefs in the South China Sea Photograph: Liu Rui/AP
China’s military has expanded its bomber operations in recent years while “likely training for strikes” against the United States and its allies, a Pentagon report released on Thursday has said.
The assessment was contained in an annual report that highlighted China’s efforts to increase its global influence, with defence spending that the Pentagon estimates exceeded $190bn in 2017.
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“Over the last three years, the PLA [People’s Liberation Army] has rapidly expanded its overwater bomber operating areas, gaining experience in critical maritime regions and likely training for strikes against US and allied targets,” the report said, noting how China is pushing its operations out into the Pacific.
In August 2017, six Chinese H-6K bombers flew through the Miyako Strait in the south-west of the Japanese islands, and then for the first time turned north to fly east of Okinawa, where 47,000 US troops are based.
The report comes as China and the United States plan to hold trade talks, offering hope they might resolve an escalating tariff conflict that threatens to degenerate into an all-out trade war.
The report said that while the PLA had continued to extend operations, it was not clear what message Beijing was seeking to send by carrying out the flights “beyond a demonstration of improved capabilities”.
The Chinese embassy in Washington could not immediately be reached for comment.
This year China’s air force landed bombers on islands and reefs in the South China Sea as part of a training exercise in the disputed region.
In January the Pentagon put countering Beijing, along with Russia, at the centre of a new national defence strategy.
While Washington and Beijing maintain a military-to-military relationship aimed at containing tensions, this has been tested in recent months, notably in May when the Pentagon withdrew an invitation to China to join a multinational naval exercise.
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In June, US defence secretary Jim Mattis became the first Pentagon chief to visit China since 2014.
The Pentagon report said that despite a projected slowdown in economic growth, China’s official defence budget would be more than $240bn by 2028.
The Pentagon report also said China’s space program was progressing rapidly.
“The PLA continues to strengthen its military space capabilities despite its public stance against the militarisation of space,” it said.
This month, President Donald Trump’s administration announced an ambitious plan to usher in a new “Space Force” as the sixth branch of the military by 2020.
One of the arguments in favour of developing such a force is that American rivals like China appear increasingly ready to strike US space-based capabilities in the event of a conflict.
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Chinese bombers likely training for US strikes: Pentagon
A J15 fighter jet landing on China's sole operational aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, during a military exercise. (AFP Photo)
17 Aug 2018 04:08AM (Updated: 17 Aug 2018 03:53PM)
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WASHINGTON: Chinese bombers are likely training for strikes against US and allied targets in the Pacific, according to a new Pentagon report that also details how Beijing is transforming its ground forces to "fight and win."
The annual report to Congress, released on Thursday (Aug 16), highlights China's growing military, economic and diplomatic clout and how Beijing is leveraging this to rapidly build its international footprint and establish regional dominance.
In the case of China's air power, the report states that Chinese bombers are developing capabilities to hit targets as far from China as possible.
"Over the last three years, the PLA (People's Liberation Army) has rapidly expanded its overwater bomber operating areas, gaining experience in critical maritime regions and likely training for strikes against US and allied targets," the document states, noting how China is pushing its operations out into the Pacific.
In August 2017, six Chinese H-6K bombers flew through the Miyako Strait in the southwest of the Japanese islands, and then for the first time turned north to fly east of Okinawa, where 47,000 US troops are based.
The PLA may demonstrate the "capability to strike US and allied forces and military bases in the western Pacific Ocean, including Guam," the report says.
LARGEST GROUND FORCE
China is engaged in a decades-long build-up and modernisation of its once-backward armed forces, and military leaders have set a goal of fielding a world-class military by 2050.
President Xi Jinping last year ordered the PLA to step up efforts, saying China needed a military ready to "fight and win" wars.
The call has alarmed China's neighbours, several of whom are embroiled in tense border disputes with the superpower.
According to the Pentagon, the PLA in April 2017 undertook a massive transformation of operational and tactical units as part of its structural reforms.
With nearly a million troops, the PLA is the largest standing ground force in the world.
"The purpose of these reforms is to create a more mobile, modular, lethal ground force capable of being the core of joint operations and able to meet Xi Jinping's directive to 'fight and win wars,'" the report notes.
China's military budget for 2017 was about US$190 billion, according to the report, far behind the Pentagon's annual budget of about US$700 billion.
When the Pentagon released its annual report last year, Beijing dismissed it as "irresponsible" in predicting that China would expand its global military presence by building overseas bases in countries like Pakistan.
This year's report reiterates that China will seek to establish new bases in countries such as Pakistan.
Key to this expanding footprint is China's "belt and road" initiative that seeks to bolster ties with other nations through lending and infrastructure deals.
TAIWAN 'CONTINGENCY'
The document also shines a light on China's ongoing military preparations for a "contingency" in the Taiwan Strait.
Officially, China advocates for a peaceful reunification with Taiwan, but it has never repudiated the use of military force, the document notes.
"The PLA also is likely preparing for a contingency to unify Taiwan with China by force, while simultaneously deterring, delaying, or denying any third-party intervention on Taiwan’s behalf," it states.
"Should the United States intervene, China would try to delay effective intervention and seek victory in a high-intensity, limited war of short duration."
To the ire of regional neighbours, China has built a series of islets and ocean features into military facilities in the South China Sea.
Activists protest in front of the Chinese consulate in Manila against Beijing's claims in the South China Sea. (AFP/TED ALJIBE)
Beijing has now stopped substantial land reclamation. "However, it continued to build infrastructure at three outposts," the report says.
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Manned warplanes are too limited because of biological limitation of man. Therefore from now onwards, 6th Gen and further warplanes are all drones.
Without pilots, the drones can go very long hours, and distance, and altitude and SPEED, and HIGH G maneuver . A biological man is the burden to these high performance warplanes. Too much limitation from man, and system to keep man alive in extreme conditions. Man can too easily gets tired, cold, hot, past out, die, injured, give up, instead of fight the tough ways. Machines have no problem to perform as designed.
Hypersonic for example, none of China, Russia, USA plan to put pilot inside. Man's reaction speed and control etc are never good enough to fly hypersonic speed. It is computer's job.
Without pilots, the drones can go very long hours, and distance, and altitude and SPEED, and HIGH G maneuver . A biological man is the burden to these high performance warplanes. Too much limitation from man, and system to keep man alive in extreme conditions. Man can too easily gets tired, cold, hot, past out, die, injured, give up, instead of fight the tough ways. Machines have no problem to perform as designed.
Hypersonic for example, none of China, Russia, USA plan to put pilot inside. Man's reaction speed and control etc are never good enough to fly hypersonic speed. It is computer's job.
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as always , americunts are using the same old scare tactic again.
exaggerating the situation to achieve a hidden agenda
this time to increase defense spending to benefit the military industries.
at the end of ww2 , cunning americunts asked the nihonji to sign various humiliating treaties
one of them is nippon is not allowed to have a army , navy.
on the pretext of dangerous threat from russia , a communist country ,
the americunts managed to hoodwink the nihons to station troops there.
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Pentagon is ignorant about it. China has all the time sufficient stocks of body bags enough even to nuke USA.
Even Jack Ma's alibaba.com sells ex-stock many models big & small, expensive and cheap ones, 24Hrs, you need few hundred million body bags they can ship to you ASAP!
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The army is really fighting? Scholar: I have to see if the body bag has increased.
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According to the newly released 2018 "China Military Power Report" issued by the Pentagon, the army has frequently performed military exercises in the Pacific in recent years, and the threat of attacks by the US military and its allies has increased. The report stated that the Communists are preparing to take Taiwan in a surprise attack. Fan Shiping, a professor at the Institute of Political Science of the Taiwan Normal University, judged that the US report was mostly a routine military exercise of the Communists and had reservations about the plan for attacking Taiwan.
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▲The US report pointed out that China’s military exercise has reached a new high in recent years (Photo/Information)
Fan Shiping judged that the Communists gathered seven warships in the Yellow Sea this week for a large-scale military exercise, but the imaginary enemy is actually South Korea. Many of the military exercises are routine, whether it is reported by the US, there is a real beaching plan. Painting and attacking the platform depends on the overall logistics planning.
Fan Shiping explained: "If you really fight, you will die a lot of people. If the army wants to start a war, you must first see if there is any increase in the body bag, and the subordinates of the military doctors. For example, the field hospitals in other military areas have moved to the south, not only the real Military exercises!"
The military has been more frequent in the past three years. Last year, the H-6 bomber crossed the Miyako Strait and the east coast of Okinawa for the first time. The US military and allies were included in the attack area in the Pacific. Fan Shiping believed that there was no need to worry too much. "The US military is in the Pacific. There are many allies in the region. Even if the Communists have blown up Guam, and there are bases such as South Korea and Japan, it is impossible to fight with all the allies of the United States. Even after ten years, it is impossible." Stealing chickens has provoked American patriotism and accelerated the demise of the Japanese army.
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▲ The CCP’s defense budget will look at $190 billion (Photo/Information)
Faced with the possibility of the Communists continuing to escalate the conflict in the Taiwan Strait, Fan Shiping believes that the most effective way of coping is to continue to enhance military cooperation between Taiwan and the United States. "Taiwan does not have a military alliance, but the focus is on substantive relations. The treaty is only a piece of paper. The US relationship is better than before the 1979 diplomatic exchange."
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因货物质量问题，薛先生在淘宝购物时给了一个差评。没想到，在接连接到80多个骚扰电话后，他竟收到一个装有裹尸袋的快递！而在此之前，他还在完全不知情的情况下被人"订购"了一台货到付款的冰箱。记者从淘宝方面了解到，目前已确认购买裹尸袋的账号属于卖家，将冻结店铺进行处罚。 8月20日，薛先生在一家叫"马上叮咚"淘宝店买了一双旅游鞋，23日鞋子到了。"打开包裹一看，鞋子的质量不好，鞋头有些开胶。"薛先生发现，鞋子质量与网上图片有差距，且卖家发货速度较慢，于是他在确认收货之后给了卖家一个差评。
（延伸阅读：网评师：好评差评只要4500）
23日晚上7点左右，他手机显示一个180开头的福建泉州的号码来电。"我没接，直接挂了，因为号码归属地和卖家的地址一样，想想也知道这是卖家要来理论。"薛先生告诉记者，后来这个号码又连续拨打了几次薛先生的电话，但他都没有理睬。
当晚9点开始，薛先生的电话铃声就再也没有停过，一个186开头显示归属地为广东深圳的手机号以每分钟2到3个的频率，不断地打他电话。"我实在受不了了，当晚就关机了。"第二天早上，薛先生又接到了这个186开头号码的来电，"连着打三个，过一会儿又打来。"薛先生下了一个手机安全软件，把这两天不断骚扰的180和186开头的两个号码都拉进了黑名单。薛先生告诉记者，软件拦截信息显示，23日以后，180的电话打过几次，最近一次是9月1日凌晨1点多。记者随后也在卖家店铺主页上看到，其所留的联系电话与薛先生接到的180骚扰电话一致。
如果仅仅是骚扰电话，薛先生拉黑也就行了。可是24日中午，薛先生接到一个上海的来电，对方称是卖冰箱的，跟他确认送货时间。
"我刚开始以为是诈骗电话，后来对方说是我亲戚帮我买的，还报出我住的小区名字和我家门号，可我根本没有订购过什么冰箱。"对方告诉薛先生，冰箱是别人打电话订购的，货到付款。经与对方确定，订购人的电话号码是0595开头的座机，归属地是福建泉州。
昨天记者联系到了冰箱卖家黄女士。黄女士在浦东开了一家电器店，告诉记者，8月23日晚，一个男的来电说想买一台冰箱，送到张江，货到付款。"我看到来电显示号码是福建的，特意问他为什么号码是福建的，那个人说自己在福建出差，小舅子在家会代收的。"黄女士说，"他当时说的送货地址是小区名字''川杨新苑''，我问他在什么路上，他说不上来，就说到了那里看到小区就能找到。幸亏我提前跟薛先生确认了，不然就要白搭冰箱运费了。"如果说给买家订一个货到付款的冰箱是恶作剧，那么上周六薛先生收到的裹尸袋在他看来，就是一次"恐吓"。
据薛先生回忆，8月30日晚，他收到一个方形塑料袋包装的快递。拆开包裹一看，里面竟然是印着大大的黑色''奠''字的黄色裹尸袋，薛先生着实吓了一跳。"我一看到这个字，还写着''流芳百世''字样，当时就气得浑身发抖。肯定是这个卖家寄的，用这样的东西来寻晦气，太恶劣了。"
根据薛先生手机信息记录的快递单号，记者查到这个快递发自河北保定，并联系到了快递的发件人、专门售卖寿衣等用品的张先生。他查询后告诉记者，是一个淘宝名叫"马航你在哪里1"的人购买的，他填写的收货人、收货地址和电话都是薛先生的。"他已经付款了，加上运费38元钱，但是现在这个购买人的支付宝显示存在异常，我看不到他的实名注册信息。"
[淘宝客服]
查实寄裹尸布确系卖家所为
淘宝客服人员告诉记者，遇到此类情况，买家可以向客服投诉，并上传聊天页面截图、快递信息及其他相关证据，淘宝会根据情况判定投诉是否成立。昨天下午，淘宝方面回应表示，经过进一步查实，目前已确认裹尸袋购买账号与卖家属同一人，淘宝将以邮寄恶心物品B类48分，对店铺进行冻结处罚。
http://tech.ifeng.com/internet/special/shouyimen/content-3/detail_2012_05/15/14541817_0.shtml
淘宝寿衣门事件：只因没给好评就被寄寿衣和棺材
2012年05月15日 17:27
来源：鲁网综合
字号:T|T
4人参与4条评论打印转发
女生称因差评收到商家一套寿衣 淘宝已介入处理
5月11日下午，一个来自武汉的淘宝VIP2买家在淘宝论坛发的帖子引起了数万网友的关注。发帖人称，因为一个差评，卖家在网上买了一套小孩寿衣发了过来，让人不寒而栗。
在帖子里，买家详细地陈述了事情发生的原委。她是一名女大学生，也是一个网购迷，10日下午，她收到了一个来自北京的快递，里面竟是一套寿衣！她收货后当即拍下了照片，并报警和联系了包裹单上的发件人，发件人李小姐后来短信回复说是有一个叫××××的山东ID购买了这套寿衣。
发帖人立刻上网搜索该淘宝ID的相关资料，在浏览该ID的主页收藏记录中，她看见了一条外贸裙子，这条裙子正是她曾经购买并差评的那家店的。发帖人称：“裙子收到后，发现跟描述的不一样，但客服态度很强硬，淘宝介入没有达成一致。最后7日给了一个差评。而8日就寄出了寿衣。”虽然查不出该ID和裙子卖家有何干系，但发帖人表示，寿衣事件与此次差评有关。
12日晚，记者咨询此寿衣事件，裙子卖家的客服表示“事出必有因，我们不否认也不承认，只要相关机构拿出过硬的证据，我们就认栽，如果相关机构拿不出相应的证据，就把我们店铺封了，我们会追究到底”。
鉴于涉及当事人隐私，报案人个人信息已作加密处理。至记者发稿为止，警方还没有回复。目前，淘宝官方已经介入此事的处理当中。（据央广）
淘宝寿衣门事件：只因没给好评就被寄寿衣和棺材
2012年05月15日 17:27
来源：鲁网综合
字号:T|T
4人参与4条评论打印转发
延伸阅读————
一份寄来的新年大礼，竟是口“棺材”
淮北张先生投诉称，因网购没给“好评”收此恶礼
记者 王涛
元宵节刚过，淮北的张先生就收到一份匿名寄来的“新年大礼”——一口小棺材。
张先生被这从天而降的棺材给气坏了。一番调查之后，他认为，寄棺材的人是一家网店的工作人员，而他们之所以这样做，就是因为之前他在该网店买手机闹了一些不快，在服务反馈时给了卖方一个“中评”的评价。
买手机遇不快给了“中评”
元宵节的晚上，张先生在淘宝商城的一家网店购买了一部手机，由于他没有淘宝账户，使用的账户是朋友小林(化名)的。
2天后，张先生就收到了手机，从外表上看，基本上和网络描述的相符。但当他打开使用之后，却发现手机内存卡里存有他人的视频资料。张先生说：“这就说明至少内存卡是旧的。”
随后，小林帮助张先生与卖方进行了联系。卖方先是不承认，后来说可能是工作人员发货时出错，并表示退20元钱。
张先生没答应，称只要对方打个电话过来道歉。但之后的几天内，对方一直没有打电话过来。
没有收到对方的道歉电话，张先生觉得手机反正也可以用，就说付款算了。小林随即在订单上付款。遇到这样的事情，张先生有些不快，于是在服务反馈表上，给了对方一个“中评”，同时文字描述了该起事件。
匿名包裹里装着一口棺材
给出“中评”之后，对方的电话打来了。对方先是表示前几天比较忙，忘记打电话道歉，随后又与张先生商量，希望能把“中评”改成“好评”。
张先生没有答应。
更改“好评”未果，对方丢下一句话“等着收东西吧”，就挂断了电话。
2月15日，正在公司上班的张先生接到快递公司的电话，让他到楼下收货。张先生下楼一看，是一个纸箱包裹，还是货到付款，价格176元。
张先生觉得很奇怪，拒绝收货。随后，他与发货公司取得了联系，这时他才知道，纸箱内竟然是一口小棺材。
“若查证属实网店将被关闭”
谁这么缺德，给人送棺材！
张先生立即向发货公司索要了订货人的电话号码以及支付账号等信息，并开始调查。
张先生说：“调查显示，订货人的支付账号绑定的是QQ号，而该QQ号以及其留下的电话号码，均与先前卖手机的那家公司有密切关系。”
通过调查，张先生认为种种证据表明，正是之前的卖方干了这件缺德事！
他立即整理了相关资料，并通过正规渠道，向淘宝商城官方进行投诉。
记者昨日下午对淘宝商城相关部门进行了采访，一位负责人告诉记者：“遇到这样的事情我们也深表歉意，淘宝网会根据买家提供的证据迅速展开调查，如果查证属实，淘宝网将依据规则，对违规方进行处罚，如果情节严重，店铺将会被关闭。”
网上购物请你擦亮眼
记者随后又向安徽省消费者协会进行了咨询，一位王姓工作人员就相关问题进行了答复。
该工作人员表示，此事如果查证属实，不仅仅是一个消费争议问题，还涉及到个人精神伤害，只从消费者权益方面进行处理，已经不能弥补消费者的损失，我个人建议他在掌握确凿证据后，向法院起诉。
消协工作人员还对市民网购给出了建议：网购时，一定要谨慎选择卖家，不能只看产品情况，更要查看卖家情况，包括其信誉度、成交量、买方评价等等。尽量选择正规的、有实力的网店购买商品，千万不要贪图便宜，选择一些信誉度较差的网店。
此外，如果在网购过程中遇到问题，要及时向网站官方进行投诉，如果网站无法解决，可以向卖方所在地的消协或其他行政主管机关投诉。
如今，网购已经成了一种普遍的购物形式，很多人在生活中都曾经网购。那么，您在网购中有没有遇到过一些令您恼火、尴尬、沮丧的事情呢？如果有，请您致电0551-2620110，告诉我们您的故事，参与讨论。（市场星报）
https://xw.qq.com/cmsid/SHC2014090300825403
Online shopping for the bad review received the seller "wrapy bag"
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2014-09-03 06:49
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Due to the quality of the goods, Mr. Xue gave a bad review when he was shopping at Taobao. Unexpectedly, after connecting to more than 80 harassing calls, he actually received a courier with a body bag! Prior to this, he was "ordered" with a cash on delivery refrigerator without knowing it. The reporter learned from Taobao that it has been confirmed that the account for purchasing the body bag belongs to the seller and will freeze the shop for punishment. On August 20th, Mr. Xue bought a pair of sneakers at a Taobao shop called "Soon", and the shoes arrived on the 23rd. "When you open the package, the quality of the shoes is not good, and the toe has some glue." Mr. Xue found that there was a gap between the quality of the shoes and the online pictures, and the seller shipped the goods slowly, so he gave the seller a bad after confirming the receipt. Comment.
(Extended reading: Internet reviewer: praise bad review as long as 4500)
At around 7 pm on the 23rd, his mobile phone showed a call from the number of Fujian Quanzhou at the beginning of 180. "I didn't pick it up, it hangs directly, because the number belongs to the same address as the seller. I think it is the seller to come to the theory." Mr. Xue told reporters that this number has been dialed several times in a row. But he ignored it.
At 9 o'clock that night, Mr. Xue’s phone ringing never stopped. A 186 at the beginning showed that the mobile phone number belonging to Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, was continually calling him at a frequency of 2 to 3 per minute. "I really can't stand it. I shut it down that night." The next morning, Mr. Xue received another call from the number 186 at the beginning. "Through three hits, I called again after a while." Mr. Xue got a mobile phone. The security software has blacked out the two numbers at the beginning of the 180 and 186 that have been harassing these two days. Mr. Xue told reporters that the software interception information shows that after the 23rd, 180 calls have been played several times, the most recent one being more than 1 am on September 1. The reporter then saw on the homepage of the seller's shop that the contact number left by him was the same as the 180 harassment call received by Mr. Xue.
If it is just a harassing call, Mr. Xue will be black. However, at noon on the 24th, Mr. Xue received a call from Shanghai. The other party said that he was selling the refrigerator and confirmed the delivery time with him.
"I just thought it was a fraudulent phone call. Later, the other party said that my relatives bought it for me. I also reported the name of the community I lived in and the number of my house, but I didn't order any refrigerator at all." The other party told Mr. Xue that the refrigerator is Someone calls to order, cash on delivery. After confirming with the other party, the subscriber's telephone number is the landline at the beginning of 0595, and the attribution is Quanzhou, Fujian.
Yesterday, the reporter contacted the refrigerator seller Ms. Huang. Ms. Huang opened an electrical appliance store in Pudong and told reporters that on the evening of August 23, a man called to buy a refrigerator and sent it to Zhangjiang for cash on delivery. "I saw that the caller ID number is from Fujian. I specifically asked him why the number is from Fujian. The person said that he was on a business trip in Fujian. The nephew will collect it at home." Ms. Huang said, "The delivery address he said at the time was a community. The name ''Chuanyang Xinyuan'', I asked him what road he was, he couldn’t say it, he said that he could find it when he saw the community. Fortunately, I confirmed it with Mr. Xue in advance, otherwise I would have to pay for the refrigerator." It is a prank to order a buyer for a cash on delivery. The body bag that Mr. Xue received last Saturday is a "intimidation".
According to Mr. Xue, on the evening of August 30, he received a courier in a square plastic bag. When I opened the parcel and saw it, it turned out to be a yellow wrapper with a big black ''make'' word. Mr. Xue was really shocked. "As soon as I saw this word, I also wrote the words ''Fangfang Baishi'". At that time, I was so angry that I was trembled. It must have been sent by this seller. It is too bad to use such things to find anger."
According to the courier number recorded by Mr. Xue’s mobile phone information, the reporter found that the courier was sent from Baoding, Hebei Province, and contacted the sender of the courier, Mr. Zhang, who specializes in selling shrouds and other supplies. After he inquired, he told reporters that it was purchased by a Taobao person named "Ma Hang where you are 1". The consignee, the receiving address and the phone number he filled in were all Mr. Xue. "He has already paid, plus shipping costs of 38 yuan, but now the purchaser's Alipay shows an abnormality, I can't see his real-name registration information."
[淘宝客服]
Check that the shroud is indeed the seller’s
Taobao customer service staff told reporters that in such cases, buyers can complain to customer service, and upload screenshots of the chat page, express information and other relevant evidence, Taobao will determine whether the complaint is established according to the situation. Yesterday afternoon, Taobao responded that after further investigation, it has been confirmed that the body bag purchase account and the seller are the same person, Taobao will post 48 points of the disgusting goods category B, and freeze the shop.
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Taobao Shouyimen Incident: Just because there was no praise, it was sent to the shroud and coffin.
May 15, 2012 17:27
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The girl said that she received a set of shroud for the bad review. Taobao has been involved in the treatment.
On the afternoon of May 11, a post from Taobao VIP2 buyer from Wuhan in Taobao forum attracted the attention of tens of thousands of netizens. The poster said that because of a bad review, the seller bought a set of children's shrouds on the Internet and made people shudder.
In the post, the buyer stated in detail what happened. She is a female college student and an online shopping fan. On the afternoon of the 10th, she received a courier from Beijing, which was actually a shroud! She took the photo immediately after receiving the goods, and alerted and contacted the sender on the parcel. The sender, Ms. Li, later replied that there was a Shandong ID named XX× purchased this shroud.
The poster immediately searched the Internet for the relevant information of the Taobao ID. In the homepage collection record of the ID, she saw a foreign trade skirt, which was the store she had purchased and badly reviewed. The poster said: "After the skirt was received, it was found to be different from the description, but the customer service attitude was very tough. Taobao did not reach an agreement. The last 7th gave a bad review. On the 8th, the shroud was sent." What is the relationship between the ID and the skirt seller, but the poster said that the shroud incident was related to the bad review.
On the evening of the 12th, the reporter consulted the shroud incident. The customer service of the skirt seller stated that “there must be a cause. We don’t deny it or admit it. As long as the relevant agencies come up with strong evidence, we will recognize it if the relevant agencies can’t get the corresponding The evidence will seal our store and we will pursue it."
In view of the privacy of the parties involved, the personal information of the informant has been encrypted. Until the press release, the police have not responded. At present, Taobao officials have been involved in the handling of this matter. (According to Yang Guang)
Taobao Shouyimen Incident: Just because there was no praise, it was sent to the shroud and coffin.
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A New Year’s gift was sent to the coffin.
Mr. Zhang of Huaibei complained that because online shopping did not give "praise" to this bad gift
Reporter Wang Tao
Just after the Lantern Festival, Mr. Zhang from Huaibei received an anonymous "New Year's Gift" - a small coffin.
Mr. Zhang was mad at the coffin that fell from the sky. After some investigation, he thought that the person who sent the coffin was a staff member of the online shop, and they did this because he had some troubles in buying the mobile phone in the online store before, and gave the seller a service feedback. Evaluation of “中评”.
The opportunity of buying a hand is not fast, giving the "interview"
On the evening of Lantern Festival, Mr. Zhang purchased a mobile phone in an online shop in Taobao Mall. Since he does not have a Taobao account, the account used is Xiaolin (a pseudonym).
Two days later, Mr. Zhang received the mobile phone. From the outside, it basically matched the description of the network. But when he turned it on, he found that there were other people's video files in the phone's memory card. Mr. Zhang said: "This means that at least the memory card is old."
Subsequently, Xiaolin helped Mr. Zhang to contact the seller. The seller did not admit it first. Later, it may be that the staff member made a mistake when delivering the goods and said that he would refund 20 yuan.
Mr. Zhang did not agree, saying that as long as the other party made a phone call to apologize. But in the next few days, the other party has not called.
Did not receive the apology phone number of the other party, Mr. Zhang felt that the phone can be used anyway, just say the payment is counted. Kobayashi then paid for the order. When encountering such a thing, Mr. Zhang was somewhat unhappy, so he gave the other party a "medium comment" on the service feedback form, and the text described the incident.
An anonymous package contains a coffin
After giving the "medium commentary", the other party's phone call came. The other party first said that they were busy a few days ago, forgot to call and apologize, and then discussed with Mr. Zhang, hoping to change the "medium rating" into "praise."
Mr. Zhang did not agree.
If the change of "praise" is unsuccessful, the other party will drop the next sentence "waiting to collect things" and hang up the phone.
On February 15th, Mr. Zhang, who was working at the company, received a call from the courier company and asked him to pick up the goods downstairs. Mr. Zhang went downstairs to look at it, it was a carton package, or cash on delivery, the price of 176 yuan.
Mr. Zhang felt very strange and refused to accept the goods. Later, he got in touch with the shipping company, and then he realized that the carton turned out to be a small coffin.
"If the verification is a real online store will be closed"
Who is so wicked, give people a coffin!
Mr. Zhang immediately requested the ordering company's telephone number and payment account number from the shipping company, and began investigation.
Mr. Zhang said: "The survey shows that the orderer's payment account is bound to the QQ number, and the QQ number and the phone number it leaves are closely related to the company that previously sold the mobile phone."
Through the investigation, Mr. Zhang believes that all kinds of evidence show that it was the former seller who did this wicked thing!
He immediately sorted out the relevant information and made a complaint to the official Taobao Mall through formal channels.
The reporter interviewed the relevant departments of Taobao Mall yesterday afternoon. A person in charge told the reporter: "We also apologize for such a thing. Taobao will quickly investigate according to the evidence provided by the buyer. If the verification is true, Taobao.com The offending party will be punished according to the rules, and if the circumstances are serious, the store will be closed."
Online shopping, please shine your eyes
The reporter then consulted the Anhui Consumers Association, and a staff member named Wang responded to relevant questions.
The staff said that if the investigation is true, it is not only a consumer dispute issue, but also involves personal mental injury. It is only handled from the perspective of consumer rights, and it can no longer make up for the loss of consumers. I personally recommend that he master the conclusive After the evidence, he filed a lawsuit in court.
Consumers' staff also gave suggestions on citizen online shopping: when shopping online, you must carefully choose the seller, not only to see the product, but also to check the seller's situation, including its credibility, volume, buyer evaluation and so on. Try to choose a regular, powerful online store to buy goods, do not covet cheap, choose some online stores with poor reputation.
In addition, if you encounter problems during the online shopping process, you should promptly file a complaint with the website official. If the website cannot be resolved, you can complain to the consumer association or other administrative authority at the seller's location.
Nowadays, online shopping has become a common form of shopping, and many people have purchased online in their lives. So, have you encountered anything that is annoying, embarrassing, and frustrating in online shopping? If so, please call 0551-2620110 to tell us your story and participate in the discussion. (Market Star)
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- hell currency money
- joss paper
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网购给差评收到卖家“裹尸袋”
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2014-09-03 06:49
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因货物质量问题，薛先生在淘宝购物时给了一个差评。没想到，在接连接到80多个骚扰电话后，他竟收到一个装有裹尸袋的快递！而在此之前，他还在完全不知情的情况下被人"订购"了一台货到付款的冰箱。记者从淘宝方面了解到，目前已确认购买裹尸袋的账号属于卖家，将冻结店铺进行处罚。 8月20日，薛先生在一家叫"马上叮咚"淘宝店买了一双旅游鞋，23日鞋子到了。"打开包裹一看，鞋子的质量不好，鞋头有些开胶。"薛先生发现，鞋子质量与网上图片有差距，且卖家发货速度较慢，于是他在确认收货之后给了卖家一个差评。
（延伸阅读：网评师：好评差评只要4500）
23日晚上7点左右，他手机显示一个180开头的福建泉州的号码来电。"我没接，直接挂了，因为号码归属地和卖家的地址一样，想想也知道这是卖家要来理论。"薛先生告诉记者，后来这个号码又连续拨打了几次薛先生的电话，但他都没有理睬。
当晚9点开始，薛先生的电话铃声就再也没有停过，一个186开头显示归属地为广东深圳的手机号以每分钟2到3个的频率，不断地打他电话。"我实在受不了了，当晚就关机了。"第二天早上，薛先生又接到了这个186开头号码的来电，"连着打三个，过一会儿又打来。"薛先生下了一个手机安全软件，把这两天不断骚扰的180和186开头的两个号码都拉进了黑名单。薛先生告诉记者，软件拦截信息显示，23日以后，180的电话打过几次，最近一次是9月1日凌晨1点多。记者随后也在卖家店铺主页上看到，其所留的联系电话与薛先生接到的180骚扰电话一致。
如果仅仅是骚扰电话，薛先生拉黑也就行了。可是24日中午，薛先生接到一个上海的来电，对方称是卖冰箱的，跟他确认送货时间。
"我刚开始以为是诈骗电话，后来对方说是我亲戚帮我买的，还报出我住的小区名字和我家门号，可我根本没有订购过什么冰箱。"对方告诉薛先生，冰箱是别人打电话订购的，货到付款。经与对方确定，订购人的电话号码是0595开头的座机，归属地是福建泉州。
昨天记者联系到了冰箱卖家黄女士。黄女士在浦东开了一家电器店，告诉记者，8月23日晚，一个男的来电说想买一台冰箱，送到张江，货到付款。"我看到来电显示号码是福建的，特意问他为什么号码是福建的，那个人说自己在福建出差，小舅子在家会代收的。"黄女士说，"他当时说的送货地址是小区名字''川杨新苑''，我问他在什么路上，他说不上来，就说到了那里看到小区就能找到。幸亏我提前跟薛先生确认了，不然就要白搭冰箱运费了。"如果说给买家订一个货到付款的冰箱是恶作剧，那么上周六薛先生收到的裹尸袋在他看来，就是一次"恐吓"。
据薛先生回忆，8月30日晚，他收到一个方形塑料袋包装的快递。拆开包裹一看，里面竟然是印着大大的黑色''奠''字的黄色裹尸袋，薛先生着实吓了一跳。"我一看到这个字，还写着''流芳百世''字样，当时就气得浑身发抖。肯定是这个卖家寄的，用这样的东西来寻晦气，太恶劣了。"
根据薛先生手机信息记录的快递单号，记者查到这个快递发自河北保定，并联系到了快递的发件人、专门售卖寿衣等用品的张先生。他查询后告诉记者，是一个淘宝名叫"马航你在哪里1"的人购买的，他填写的收货人、收货地址和电话都是薛先生的。"他已经付款了，加上运费38元钱，但是现在这个购买人的支付宝显示存在异常，我看不到他的实名注册信息。"
[淘宝客服]
查实寄裹尸布确系卖家所为
淘宝客服人员告诉记者，遇到此类情况，买家可以向客服投诉，并上传聊天页面截图、快递信息及其他相关证据，淘宝会根据情况判定投诉是否成立。昨天下午，淘宝方面回应表示，经过进一步查实，目前已确认裹尸袋购买账号与卖家属同一人，淘宝将以邮寄恶心物品B类48分，对店铺进行冻结处罚。
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淘宝寿衣门事件：只因没给好评就被寄寿衣和棺材
2012年05月15日 17:27
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女生称因差评收到商家一套寿衣 淘宝已介入处理
5月11日下午，一个来自武汉的淘宝VIP2买家在淘宝论坛发的帖子引起了数万网友的关注。发帖人称，因为一个差评，卖家在网上买了一套小孩寿衣发了过来，让人不寒而栗。
在帖子里，买家详细地陈述了事情发生的原委。她是一名女大学生，也是一个网购迷，10日下午，她收到了一个来自北京的快递，里面竟是一套寿衣！她收货后当即拍下了照片，并报警和联系了包裹单上的发件人，发件人李小姐后来短信回复说是有一个叫××××的山东ID购买了这套寿衣。
发帖人立刻上网搜索该淘宝ID的相关资料，在浏览该ID的主页收藏记录中，她看见了一条外贸裙子，这条裙子正是她曾经购买并差评的那家店的。发帖人称：“裙子收到后，发现跟描述的不一样，但客服态度很强硬，淘宝介入没有达成一致。最后7日给了一个差评。而8日就寄出了寿衣。”虽然查不出该ID和裙子卖家有何干系，但发帖人表示，寿衣事件与此次差评有关。
12日晚，记者咨询此寿衣事件，裙子卖家的客服表示“事出必有因，我们不否认也不承认，只要相关机构拿出过硬的证据，我们就认栽，如果相关机构拿不出相应的证据，就把我们店铺封了，我们会追究到底”。
鉴于涉及当事人隐私，报案人个人信息已作加密处理。至记者发稿为止，警方还没有回复。目前，淘宝官方已经介入此事的处理当中。（据央广）
淘宝寿衣门事件：只因没给好评就被寄寿衣和棺材
2012年05月15日 17:27
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一份寄来的新年大礼，竟是口“棺材”
淮北张先生投诉称，因网购没给“好评”收此恶礼
记者 王涛
元宵节刚过，淮北的张先生就收到一份匿名寄来的“新年大礼”——一口小棺材。
张先生被这从天而降的棺材给气坏了。一番调查之后，他认为，寄棺材的人是一家网店的工作人员，而他们之所以这样做，就是因为之前他在该网店买手机闹了一些不快，在服务反馈时给了卖方一个“中评”的评价。
买手机遇不快给了“中评”
元宵节的晚上，张先生在淘宝商城的一家网店购买了一部手机，由于他没有淘宝账户，使用的账户是朋友小林(化名)的。
2天后，张先生就收到了手机，从外表上看，基本上和网络描述的相符。但当他打开使用之后，却发现手机内存卡里存有他人的视频资料。张先生说：“这就说明至少内存卡是旧的。”
随后，小林帮助张先生与卖方进行了联系。卖方先是不承认，后来说可能是工作人员发货时出错，并表示退20元钱。
张先生没答应，称只要对方打个电话过来道歉。但之后的几天内，对方一直没有打电话过来。
没有收到对方的道歉电话，张先生觉得手机反正也可以用，就说付款算了。小林随即在订单上付款。遇到这样的事情，张先生有些不快，于是在服务反馈表上，给了对方一个“中评”，同时文字描述了该起事件。
匿名包裹里装着一口棺材
给出“中评”之后，对方的电话打来了。对方先是表示前几天比较忙，忘记打电话道歉，随后又与张先生商量，希望能把“中评”改成“好评”。
张先生没有答应。
更改“好评”未果，对方丢下一句话“等着收东西吧”，就挂断了电话。
2月15日，正在公司上班的张先生接到快递公司的电话，让他到楼下收货。张先生下楼一看，是一个纸箱包裹，还是货到付款，价格176元。
张先生觉得很奇怪，拒绝收货。随后，他与发货公司取得了联系，这时他才知道，纸箱内竟然是一口小棺材。
“若查证属实网店将被关闭”
谁这么缺德，给人送棺材！
张先生立即向发货公司索要了订货人的电话号码以及支付账号等信息，并开始调查。
张先生说：“调查显示，订货人的支付账号绑定的是QQ号，而该QQ号以及其留下的电话号码，均与先前卖手机的那家公司有密切关系。”
通过调查，张先生认为种种证据表明，正是之前的卖方干了这件缺德事！
他立即整理了相关资料，并通过正规渠道，向淘宝商城官方进行投诉。
记者昨日下午对淘宝商城相关部门进行了采访，一位负责人告诉记者：“遇到这样的事情我们也深表歉意，淘宝网会根据买家提供的证据迅速展开调查，如果查证属实，淘宝网将依据规则，对违规方进行处罚，如果情节严重，店铺将会被关闭。”
网上购物请你擦亮眼
记者随后又向安徽省消费者协会进行了咨询，一位王姓工作人员就相关问题进行了答复。
该工作人员表示，此事如果查证属实，不仅仅是一个消费争议问题，还涉及到个人精神伤害，只从消费者权益方面进行处理，已经不能弥补消费者的损失，我个人建议他在掌握确凿证据后，向法院起诉。
消协工作人员还对市民网购给出了建议：网购时，一定要谨慎选择卖家，不能只看产品情况，更要查看卖家情况，包括其信誉度、成交量、买方评价等等。尽量选择正规的、有实力的网店购买商品，千万不要贪图便宜，选择一些信誉度较差的网店。
此外，如果在网购过程中遇到问题，要及时向网站官方进行投诉，如果网站无法解决，可以向卖方所在地的消协或其他行政主管机关投诉。
如今，网购已经成了一种普遍的购物形式，很多人在生活中都曾经网购。那么，您在网购中有没有遇到过一些令您恼火、尴尬、沮丧的事情呢？如果有，请您致电0551-2620110，告诉我们您的故事，参与讨论。（市场星报）
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Online shopping for the bad review received the seller "wrapy bag"
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Due to the quality of the goods, Mr. Xue gave a bad review when he was shopping at Taobao. Unexpectedly, after connecting to more than 80 harassing calls, he actually received a courier with a body bag! Prior to this, he was "ordered" with a cash on delivery refrigerator without knowing it. The reporter learned from Taobao that it has been confirmed that the account for purchasing the body bag belongs to the seller and will freeze the shop for punishment. On August 20th, Mr. Xue bought a pair of sneakers at a Taobao shop called "Soon", and the shoes arrived on the 23rd. "When you open the package, the quality of the shoes is not good, and the toe has some glue." Mr. Xue found that there was a gap between the quality of the shoes and the online pictures, and the seller shipped the goods slowly, so he gave the seller a bad after confirming the receipt. Comment.
(Extended reading: Internet reviewer: praise bad review as long as 4500)
At around 7 pm on the 23rd, his mobile phone showed a call from the number of Fujian Quanzhou at the beginning of 180. "I didn't pick it up, it hangs directly, because the number belongs to the same address as the seller. I think it is the seller to come to the theory." Mr. Xue told reporters that this number has been dialed several times in a row. But he ignored it.
At 9 o'clock that night, Mr. Xue’s phone ringing never stopped. A 186 at the beginning showed that the mobile phone number belonging to Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, was continually calling him at a frequency of 2 to 3 per minute. "I really can't stand it. I shut it down that night." The next morning, Mr. Xue received another call from the number 186 at the beginning. "Through three hits, I called again after a while." Mr. Xue got a mobile phone. The security software has blacked out the two numbers at the beginning of the 180 and 186 that have been harassing these two days. Mr. Xue told reporters that the software interception information shows that after the 23rd, 180 calls have been played several times, the most recent one being more than 1 am on September 1. The reporter then saw on the homepage of the seller's shop that the contact number left by him was the same as the 180 harassment call received by Mr. Xue.
If it is just a harassing call, Mr. Xue will be black. However, at noon on the 24th, Mr. Xue received a call from Shanghai. The other party said that he was selling the refrigerator and confirmed the delivery time with him.
"I just thought it was a fraudulent phone call. Later, the other party said that my relatives bought it for me. I also reported the name of the community I lived in and the number of my house, but I didn't order any refrigerator at all." The other party told Mr. Xue that the refrigerator is Someone calls to order, cash on delivery. After confirming with the other party, the subscriber's telephone number is the landline at the beginning of 0595, and the attribution is Quanzhou, Fujian.
Yesterday, the reporter contacted the refrigerator seller Ms. Huang. Ms. Huang opened an electrical appliance store in Pudong and told reporters that on the evening of August 23, a man called to buy a refrigerator and sent it to Zhangjiang for cash on delivery. "I saw that the caller ID number is from Fujian. I specifically asked him why the number is from Fujian. The person said that he was on a business trip in Fujian. The nephew will collect it at home." Ms. Huang said, "The delivery address he said at the time was a community. The name ''Chuanyang Xinyuan'', I asked him what road he was, he couldn’t say it, he said that he could find it when he saw the community. Fortunately, I confirmed it with Mr. Xue in advance, otherwise I would have to pay for the refrigerator." It is a prank to order a buyer for a cash on delivery. The body bag that Mr. Xue received last Saturday is a "intimidation".
According to Mr. Xue, on the evening of August 30, he received a courier in a square plastic bag. When I opened the parcel and saw it, it turned out to be a yellow wrapper with a big black ''make'' word. Mr. Xue was really shocked. "As soon as I saw this word, I also wrote the words ''Fangfang Baishi'". At that time, I was so angry that I was trembled. It must have been sent by this seller. It is too bad to use such things to find anger."
According to the courier number recorded by Mr. Xue’s mobile phone information, the reporter found that the courier was sent from Baoding, Hebei Province, and contacted the sender of the courier, Mr. Zhang, who specializes in selling shrouds and other supplies. After he inquired, he told reporters that it was purchased by a Taobao person named "Ma Hang where you are 1". The consignee, the receiving address and the phone number he filled in were all Mr. Xue. "He has already paid, plus shipping costs of 38 yuan, but now the purchaser's Alipay shows an abnormality, I can't see his real-name registration information."
[淘宝客服]
Check that the shroud is indeed the seller’s
Taobao customer service staff told reporters that in such cases, buyers can complain to customer service, and upload screenshots of the chat page, express information and other relevant evidence, Taobao will determine whether the complaint is established according to the situation. Yesterday afternoon, Taobao responded that after further investigation, it has been confirmed that the body bag purchase account and the seller are the same person, Taobao will post 48 points of the disgusting goods category B, and freeze the shop.
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Taobao Shouyimen Incident: Just because there was no praise, it was sent to the shroud and coffin.
May 15, 2012 17:27
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The girl said that she received a set of shroud for the bad review. Taobao has been involved in the treatment.
On the afternoon of May 11, a post from Taobao VIP2 buyer from Wuhan in Taobao forum attracted the attention of tens of thousands of netizens. The poster said that because of a bad review, the seller bought a set of children's shrouds on the Internet and made people shudder.
In the post, the buyer stated in detail what happened. She is a female college student and an online shopping fan. On the afternoon of the 10th, she received a courier from Beijing, which was actually a shroud! She took the photo immediately after receiving the goods, and alerted and contacted the sender on the parcel. The sender, Ms. Li, later replied that there was a Shandong ID named XX× purchased this shroud.
The poster immediately searched the Internet for the relevant information of the Taobao ID. In the homepage collection record of the ID, she saw a foreign trade skirt, which was the store she had purchased and badly reviewed. The poster said: "After the skirt was received, it was found to be different from the description, but the customer service attitude was very tough. Taobao did not reach an agreement. The last 7th gave a bad review. On the 8th, the shroud was sent." What is the relationship between the ID and the skirt seller, but the poster said that the shroud incident was related to the bad review.
On the evening of the 12th, the reporter consulted the shroud incident. The customer service of the skirt seller stated that “there must be a cause. We don’t deny it or admit it. As long as the relevant agencies come up with strong evidence, we will recognize it if the relevant agencies can’t get the corresponding The evidence will seal our store and we will pursue it."
In view of the privacy of the parties involved, the personal information of the informant has been encrypted. Until the press release, the police have not responded. At present, Taobao officials have been involved in the handling of this matter. (According to Yang Guang)
Taobao Shouyimen Incident: Just because there was no praise, it was sent to the shroud and coffin.
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A New Year’s gift was sent to the coffin.
Mr. Zhang of Huaibei complained that because online shopping did not give "praise" to this bad gift
Reporter Wang Tao
Just after the Lantern Festival, Mr. Zhang from Huaibei received an anonymous "New Year's Gift" - a small coffin.
Mr. Zhang was mad at the coffin that fell from the sky. After some investigation, he thought that the person who sent the coffin was a staff member of the online shop, and they did this because he had some troubles in buying the mobile phone in the online store before, and gave the seller a service feedback. Evaluation of “中评”.
The opportunity of buying a hand is not fast, giving the "interview"
On the evening of Lantern Festival, Mr. Zhang purchased a mobile phone in an online shop in Taobao Mall. Since he does not have a Taobao account, the account used is Xiaolin (a pseudonym).
Two days later, Mr. Zhang received the mobile phone. From the outside, it basically matched the description of the network. But when he turned it on, he found that there were other people's video files in the phone's memory card. Mr. Zhang said: "This means that at least the memory card is old."
Subsequently, Xiaolin helped Mr. Zhang to contact the seller. The seller did not admit it first. Later, it may be that the staff member made a mistake when delivering the goods and said that he would refund 20 yuan.
Mr. Zhang did not agree, saying that as long as the other party made a phone call to apologize. But in the next few days, the other party has not called.
Did not receive the apology phone number of the other party, Mr. Zhang felt that the phone can be used anyway, just say the payment is counted. Kobayashi then paid for the order. When encountering such a thing, Mr. Zhang was somewhat unhappy, so he gave the other party a "medium comment" on the service feedback form, and the text described the incident.
An anonymous package contains a coffin
After giving the "medium commentary", the other party's phone call came. The other party first said that they were busy a few days ago, forgot to call and apologize, and then discussed with Mr. Zhang, hoping to change the "medium rating" into "praise."
Mr. Zhang did not agree.
If the change of "praise" is unsuccessful, the other party will drop the next sentence "waiting to collect things" and hang up the phone.
On February 15th, Mr. Zhang, who was working at the company, received a call from the courier company and asked him to pick up the goods downstairs. Mr. Zhang went downstairs to look at it, it was a carton package, or cash on delivery, the price of 176 yuan.
Mr. Zhang felt very strange and refused to accept the goods. Later, he got in touch with the shipping company, and then he realized that the carton turned out to be a small coffin.
"If the verification is a real online store will be closed"
Who is so wicked, give people a coffin!
Mr. Zhang immediately requested the ordering company's telephone number and payment account number from the shipping company, and began investigation.
Mr. Zhang said: "The survey shows that the orderer's payment account is bound to the QQ number, and the QQ number and the phone number it leaves are closely related to the company that previously sold the mobile phone."
Through the investigation, Mr. Zhang believes that all kinds of evidence show that it was the former seller who did this wicked thing!
He immediately sorted out the relevant information and made a complaint to the official Taobao Mall through formal channels.
The reporter interviewed the relevant departments of Taobao Mall yesterday afternoon. A person in charge told the reporter: "We also apologize for such a thing. Taobao will quickly investigate according to the evidence provided by the buyer. If the verification is true, Taobao.com The offending party will be punished according to the rules, and if the circumstances are serious, the store will be closed."
Online shopping, please shine your eyes
The reporter then consulted the Anhui Consumers Association, and a staff member named Wang responded to relevant questions.
The staff said that if the investigation is true, it is not only a consumer dispute issue, but also involves personal mental injury. It is only handled from the perspective of consumer rights, and it can no longer make up for the loss of consumers. I personally recommend that he master the conclusive After the evidence, he filed a lawsuit in court.
Consumers' staff also gave suggestions on citizen online shopping: when shopping online, you must carefully choose the seller, not only to see the product, but also to check the seller's situation, including its credibility, volume, buyer evaluation and so on. Try to choose a regular, powerful online store to buy goods, do not covet cheap, choose some online stores with poor reputation.
In addition, if you encounter problems during the online shopping process, you should promptly file a complaint with the website official. If the website cannot be resolved, you can complain to the consumer association or other administrative authority at the seller's location.
Nowadays, online shopping has become a common form of shopping, and many people have purchased online in their lives. So, have you encountered anything that is annoying, embarrassing, and frustrating in online shopping? If so, please call 0551-2620110 to tell us your story and participate in the discussion. (Market Star)
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Pentagon report says, PLA is preparing for full scale Taiwan Invasion and to win within shortest time.
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-08-17/doc-ihhvciiw4482719.shtml
美报告：解放军为台海冲突作准备 要用最短时间取胜
2018年08月17日 10:24 参考消息
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参考消息网8月17日报道 境外媒体称，美国国防部16日发布《2018年中国军力报告》指出，中国军事现代化的目标，有可能是为降低美国的核心能力与技术优势。这份报告也披露中国大陆目前正为台湾海峡的“可能状况”作军事准备。
据台湾“中央社”8月17日报道，16日公布的这份报告强调中国大陆的军事、经济和外交影响力日增，而北京正利用这点快速建立在国际上的影响力，以及确立地区霸权地位。
在大陆的空中武力方面，这份报告指出，解放军轰炸机正在发展打击尽可能远离大陆目标的能力。
报告说：“过去3年间，解放军快速扩大远洋轰炸机作战区域，增加在重要海洋地区作战的经验，并可能训练攻击美国与盟友的目标。”报告指出，中国大陆正将军事行动推进到太平洋。
报告说，解放军也许是要展示“有能力攻击西太平洋的美军和盟国部队与军事基地，包括关岛在内”。
这份报告也指出，中国大陆的官方立场主张和平统一台湾，但从未否认可能动用军事力量。
报告说：“解放军可能正为以武力统一台湾的可能状况作准备，同时要吓阻、延后或阻却任何第三势力为了台湾而介入。”
报告又说：“如果美国干预，中国大陆会设法拖延有效的干预行动，寻求在短时间的高强度有限战争中取胜。”
据台湾联合新闻网8月17日报道，美国国防部重申，美国坚持基于《中美联合公报》、《与台湾关系法》的“一中政策”，反对任何一方片面改变台海现状，且不支持台湾“独立”；美国持续支持以两岸人民可接受的方式、范围和步骤，和平解决两岸问题。
报道指出，这并非美方首次表态不支持台湾“独立”，美国防部2016年、2017年发布的报告都指出美国不支持台湾地区“独立”。
报告提及，台湾的防务预算仍占GDP的2%左右，蔡英文最近承诺增加防务预算，但同时间，中国大陆的国防预算已成长到台湾的15倍左右，其中大部分集中在发展统一台湾的能力上。
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-08-17/doc-ihhvciiw4482719.shtml
美报告：解放军为台海冲突作准备 要用最短时间取胜
2018年08月17日 10:24 参考消息
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参考消息网8月17日报道 境外媒体称，美国国防部16日发布《2018年中国军力报告》指出，中国军事现代化的目标，有可能是为降低美国的核心能力与技术优势。这份报告也披露中国大陆目前正为台湾海峡的“可能状况”作军事准备。
据台湾“中央社”8月17日报道，16日公布的这份报告强调中国大陆的军事、经济和外交影响力日增，而北京正利用这点快速建立在国际上的影响力，以及确立地区霸权地位。
在大陆的空中武力方面，这份报告指出，解放军轰炸机正在发展打击尽可能远离大陆目标的能力。
报告说：“过去3年间，解放军快速扩大远洋轰炸机作战区域，增加在重要海洋地区作战的经验，并可能训练攻击美国与盟友的目标。”报告指出，中国大陆正将军事行动推进到太平洋。
报告说，解放军也许是要展示“有能力攻击西太平洋的美军和盟国部队与军事基地，包括关岛在内”。
这份报告也指出，中国大陆的官方立场主张和平统一台湾，但从未否认可能动用军事力量。
报告说：“解放军可能正为以武力统一台湾的可能状况作准备，同时要吓阻、延后或阻却任何第三势力为了台湾而介入。”
报告又说：“如果美国干预，中国大陆会设法拖延有效的干预行动，寻求在短时间的高强度有限战争中取胜。”
据台湾联合新闻网8月17日报道，美国国防部重申，美国坚持基于《中美联合公报》、《与台湾关系法》的“一中政策”，反对任何一方片面改变台海现状，且不支持台湾“独立”；美国持续支持以两岸人民可接受的方式、范围和步骤，和平解决两岸问题。
报道指出，这并非美方首次表态不支持台湾“独立”，美国防部2016年、2017年发布的报告都指出美国不支持台湾地区“独立”。
报告提及，台湾的防务预算仍占GDP的2%左右，蔡英文最近承诺增加防务预算，但同时间，中国大陆的国防预算已成长到台湾的15倍左右，其中大部分集中在发展统一台湾的能力上。
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To invade Fuckeinland no need body bags...the Fuckeins will surrender b4 the invasion fleet even departs.. ah tiong land is worried about nothing
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China announced all Taiwanese can start to apply for IC in Sept 2018. Like a PR to stay in mainland. Like a blue NRIC.
That is if you don't want to get killed in invasion, you can hide safely in mainland. This is a divider thing, to account for the Taiwanese, who is on which side. Pick your own side now. Surrender or die.
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Taiwanese people can apply for mainland residence card users since September: hurry to get the license to move
August 17, 2018, 07:41 World Wide Web
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Original title: Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao residents can apply for a residence permit in the mainland, Taiwan netizen: Great, and quickly get the license to move!
[Global Network Comprehensive Report] Recently, the General Office of the State Council will issue the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Method", which will be officially implemented on September 1. After the implementation of this measure, Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents will be facilitated to study in the Mainland (Mainland). Employment, entrepreneurship and life.
Recently, the state has repeatedly promoted the corresponding measures for Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents. On the 3rd of this month, the State Council just announced the cancellation of a number of administrative licensing issues, including the abolition of employment permits for Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao residents in the Mainland to further facilitate the employment of Hong Kong and Macao residents in the Mainland. , entrepreneurship. Nowadays, the application conditions for residence permits are liberalized, and Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents will be more convenient to live in the Mainland (Mainland).
After the announcement of the news, what is the reaction of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan?
Look at Taiwan first:
Taiwan’s “Joint News Network” and “China Times News” and other local media reported on this issue for the first time.
Taiwan "Joint News Network" report screenshot
Taiwan’s “Joint News Network” reported that the mainland’s State Council held a press conference this morning, and the State Council will issue the “Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents’ Permit for the Issuance and Issuance”, and on September 1 The official implementation of the day is also an important document for the mainland government to facilitate the study, entrepreneurship, employment and life of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents in the mainland.
Taiwan’s “China Times Newsletter” also believes that the implementation of this measure is an implementation measure for the implementation of equal treatment in the mainland. The report also introduced that in the "Measures" introduced this time, Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents can enjoy the many benefits of "social insurance, employment, school, medical treatment" in the Mainland (Mainland).
The green camp media on the island began to habitually “pantothenic acid”↓
In addition to reporting on the introduction of the application requirements of the Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents' residence permit, the Taiwanese daily newspaper reported that this is the way for the mainland to "catch up" the Taiwanese people.
The Taiwan Affairs Council also held a press conference on the afternoon of the 16th, claiming that this is the consistent practice of the mainland to "continue to promote the "unification of Taiwan".
However, unlike the response of the green media and the MAC, netizens on the island have praised the mainland’s Huitai measures, saying that this is “the preferential treatment of the motherland”↓
Some netizens said by their own experience that they used to go to Hangzhou. For individual convenience hotels, Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents could not stay without documents. Now with the documents, you can stay in a more affordable local hotel.
There are also netizens shouting, it is not so difficult to open an account.
What is the reaction of Hong Kong and Macao?
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On the morning of the 15th, the Chief Executive of Hong Kong, Mrs Carrie Lam, said at the time of the interview that the Central Government issued the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures". This measure is groundbreaking. On behalf of the people of Hong Kong, she expressed her gratitude to the Central People for their concern for the people of Hong Kong.
She further explained that the approach responded to the demands of Hong Kong residents and groups. In this way, Hong Kong people enjoy three rights, six basic public services and nine conveniences in the areas of social insurance, employment, schooling and medical treatment in the Mainland. It has more satisfied with the demands of Hong Kong people in the Mainland for their long-term work. For example, Hong Kong residents who have worked in the Mainland for a long time can take their children to the Mainland to receive compulsory education and enroll in public schools. They can also apply for Mainland banks and insurance businesses. Apply for a driver's license in the local area and take the vocational qualification examination.
Hong Kong's "Ming Pao", the East Network, the Hong Kong Commercial Radio website, the Macau "Power Report" and many other Hong Kong and Macao media also expressed great concern.
Hong Kong "Ming Pao" report screenshot
On the 15th, Ming Pao reported on the qualifications of the Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents applying for a residence permit and the identity of the residence permit. It also pointed out that the residents of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan enjoy the same convenience as the mainland (the mainland).
This time, the Hong Kong opposition media’s daily newspaper also changed its report on “Wenfeng” and introduced in detail the various convenience measures in the “Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents’ Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures”, saying that “in addition to the general convenience of life, The biggest selling point of the residence permit is the right to buy a home in the provinces and cities." “After applying for a residence permit, the certificate holder needs to pay a social security fund (referred to as social security). After a certain period of time, he is eligible to purchase a house or buy a car.” ↓
Macao's "Power Daily" also reported on this on the 16th, detailing the specific contents of the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures"
Macao "Report" report screenshot
For the implementation of the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures", Hong Kong netizens also believe that it is convenient for living in the Mainland.
There are also netizens in Hong Kong who say that today's young people in Hong Kong like to go to Shenzhen to eat, drink, and play. After applying for a residence permit, they can't go to the mainland to live. They can find jobs in the Mainland.
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-08-17/doc-ihhvciiw3307949.shtml
台民众9月起可申办大陆居住证 台网友：赶紧领证搬家
台民众9月起可申办大陆居住证 台网友：赶紧领证搬家
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原标题：台港澳居民在大陆可申请居住证，台网友：太好了，赶紧领证搬家！
[环球网综合报道]近日，国务院办公厅将印发《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》，并于9月1日正式实施，该办法实施后将便利港澳台居民在内地（大陆）学习、就业、创业和生活。
近来，国家屡推惠及港澳台居民的相应措施，本月3日，国务院刚刚宣布取消一批行政许可等事项，其中就包括取消台港澳居民在内地就业许可事项，以进一步便利港澳居民在内地就业、创业。 如今，居住证申请条件放开，港澳台居民在内地（大陆）生活将更加便利。
消息公布后，港澳台各界的反应是怎样的？
先看台湾：
台湾“联合新闻网”、“中时电子报”等多家岛内媒体第一时间就对此进行了报道。
台湾“联合新闻网”报道截图
台湾“联合新闻网”以“陆推同等待遇出新招”为题报道称，大陆国务院今日上午举行新闻发布会，国务院将印发《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》，并于9月1日正式实施，这也是大陆政府便利港澳台居民在大陆学习、创业、就业和生活的重要文件。
台湾“中时电子报”也认为，该办法的实施是大陆推行同等待遇的落实举措。报道还介绍了，此次推出的《办法》中，港澳台居住者在内地（大陆）参加“社会保险、劳动就业、上学、就医”等方面可享受的诸多便利。
而岛内绿营媒体又开始习惯性“泛酸”↓
台湾某果日报除了报道公安部副部长侍俊对港澳台居民居住证申请要求的介绍，还声称，这是大陆“拉拢”台湾民众的办法。
台湾陆委会也于16日下午召开记者会，宣称这是大陆“持续推动对台‘统战’措施的一贯做法”。
不过，不同于绿媒和陆委会的反应，岛内网友对大陆的惠台措施纷纷点赞，认为这是“祖国优待”↓
还有网友以自己的经历表示，以前去杭州，对于个别便捷性酒店，港澳台居民没有证件不能入住。如今有了证件，可以入住更实惠的本地旅馆了↓
还有网友大呼，开账号不用那么困难了↓
香港、澳门的反应又是怎样的？
香港大公网报道截图
15日上午，香港行政长官林郑月娥在受访时对中央印发《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》表示，这项措施具有突破性。她代表香港市民就中央对港人的关怀表示感谢。
她进一步解释，该办法回应了香港居民与团体的诉求。依此办法，港人在内地参加社会保险、劳动就业、上学、就医等方面，享受3项权利、6项基本公共服务和9项便利。更满足了很多以往港人对于在内地生活提出的诉求，例如在内地长期工作的香港市民，可以凭居住证带子女往内地接受当地义务教育，入读公立学校；亦可以申请内地银行、保险业务，在当地申请驾驶执照，以及参加职业资格考试等。
香港《明报》、东网、香港商业电台网站、澳门《力报》等多家港澳媒体也对表示了高度关注。
香港《明报》报道截图
《明报》15日在报道中梳理了该办法中港澳台居民申请居住证的资格及居住证的证件特征，并指出港澳台居民同内地（大陆）民众享有相同便利。
这次，香港反对派媒体某果日报也一改报道“文风”，详细介绍了此次《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》中的各项便利措施，称“除了一般的生活上便利，居住证最大卖点是在国内省市置业的权利”。“申请居住证后，持证者需要缴交社会保障基金（简称社保），若干时间后，有资格购买住宅或者买车”。↓
澳门《力报》16日也对此进行了报道，详细介绍了《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》的具体内容↓
澳门《力报》报道截图
而对于《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》的实施，香港网友也认为方便了在内地生活↓
还有香港网友说，如今香港年轻人喜欢去深圳“吃喝玩乐”，（申请居住证后）大不了去内地住啦，可以在内地找工作↓
That is if you don't want to get killed in invasion, you can hide safely in mainland. This is a divider thing, to account for the Taiwanese, who is on which side. Pick your own side now. Surrender or die.
http://translate.google.com/transla...cn/china/2018-08-17/doc-ihhvciiw3307949.shtml
Taiwanese people can apply for mainland residence card users since September: hurry to get the license to move
August 17, 2018, 07:41 World Wide Web
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Original title: Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao residents can apply for a residence permit in the mainland, Taiwan netizen: Great, and quickly get the license to move!
[Global Network Comprehensive Report] Recently, the General Office of the State Council will issue the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Method", which will be officially implemented on September 1. After the implementation of this measure, Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents will be facilitated to study in the Mainland (Mainland). Employment, entrepreneurship and life.
Recently, the state has repeatedly promoted the corresponding measures for Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents. On the 3rd of this month, the State Council just announced the cancellation of a number of administrative licensing issues, including the abolition of employment permits for Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao residents in the Mainland to further facilitate the employment of Hong Kong and Macao residents in the Mainland. , entrepreneurship. Nowadays, the application conditions for residence permits are liberalized, and Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents will be more convenient to live in the Mainland (Mainland).
After the announcement of the news, what is the reaction of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan?
Look at Taiwan first:
Taiwan’s “Joint News Network” and “China Times News” and other local media reported on this issue for the first time.
Taiwan’s “Joint News Network” reported that the mainland’s State Council held a press conference this morning, and the State Council will issue the “Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents’ Permit for the Issuance and Issuance”, and on September 1 The official implementation of the day is also an important document for the mainland government to facilitate the study, entrepreneurship, employment and life of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents in the mainland.
Taiwan’s “China Times Newsletter” also believes that the implementation of this measure is an implementation measure for the implementation of equal treatment in the mainland. The report also introduced that in the "Measures" introduced this time, Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents can enjoy the many benefits of "social insurance, employment, school, medical treatment" in the Mainland (Mainland).
The green camp media on the island began to habitually “pantothenic acid”↓
In addition to reporting on the introduction of the application requirements of the Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents' residence permit, the Taiwanese daily newspaper reported that this is the way for the mainland to "catch up" the Taiwanese people.
The Taiwan Affairs Council also held a press conference on the afternoon of the 16th, claiming that this is the consistent practice of the mainland to "continue to promote the "unification of Taiwan".
However, unlike the response of the green media and the MAC, netizens on the island have praised the mainland’s Huitai measures, saying that this is “the preferential treatment of the motherland”↓
Some netizens said by their own experience that they used to go to Hangzhou. For individual convenience hotels, Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents could not stay without documents. Now with the documents, you can stay in a more affordable local hotel.
On the morning of the 15th, the Chief Executive of Hong Kong, Mrs Carrie Lam, said at the time of the interview that the Central Government issued the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures". This measure is groundbreaking. On behalf of the people of Hong Kong, she expressed her gratitude to the Central People for their concern for the people of Hong Kong.
She further explained that the approach responded to the demands of Hong Kong residents and groups. In this way, Hong Kong people enjoy three rights, six basic public services and nine conveniences in the areas of social insurance, employment, schooling and medical treatment in the Mainland. It has more satisfied with the demands of Hong Kong people in the Mainland for their long-term work. For example, Hong Kong residents who have worked in the Mainland for a long time can take their children to the Mainland to receive compulsory education and enroll in public schools. They can also apply for Mainland banks and insurance businesses. Apply for a driver's license in the local area and take the vocational qualification examination.
Hong Kong's "Ming Pao", the East Network, the Hong Kong Commercial Radio website, the Macau "Power Report" and many other Hong Kong and Macao media also expressed great concern.
On the 15th, Ming Pao reported on the qualifications of the Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan residents applying for a residence permit and the identity of the residence permit. It also pointed out that the residents of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan enjoy the same convenience as the mainland (the mainland).
This time, the Hong Kong opposition media’s daily newspaper also changed its report on “Wenfeng” and introduced in detail the various convenience measures in the “Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents’ Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures”, saying that “in addition to the general convenience of life, The biggest selling point of the residence permit is the right to buy a home in the provinces and cities." “After applying for a residence permit, the certificate holder needs to pay a social security fund (referred to as social security). After a certain period of time, he is eligible to purchase a house or buy a car.” ↓
Macao's "Power Daily" also reported on this on the 16th, detailing the specific contents of the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures"
For the implementation of the "Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Residents' Residence Permit Application and Issuance Measures", Hong Kong netizens also believe that it is convenient for living in the Mainland.
There are also netizens in Hong Kong who say that today's young people in Hong Kong like to go to Shenzhen to eat, drink, and play. After applying for a residence permit, they can't go to the mainland to live. They can find jobs in the Mainland.
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-08-17/doc-ihhvciiw3307949.shtml
台民众9月起可申办大陆居住证 台网友：赶紧领证搬家
台民众9月起可申办大陆居住证 台网友：赶紧领证搬家
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原标题：台港澳居民在大陆可申请居住证，台网友：太好了，赶紧领证搬家！
[环球网综合报道]近日，国务院办公厅将印发《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》，并于9月1日正式实施，该办法实施后将便利港澳台居民在内地（大陆）学习、就业、创业和生活。
近来，国家屡推惠及港澳台居民的相应措施，本月3日，国务院刚刚宣布取消一批行政许可等事项，其中就包括取消台港澳居民在内地就业许可事项，以进一步便利港澳居民在内地就业、创业。 如今，居住证申请条件放开，港澳台居民在内地（大陆）生活将更加便利。
消息公布后，港澳台各界的反应是怎样的？
先看台湾：
台湾“联合新闻网”、“中时电子报”等多家岛内媒体第一时间就对此进行了报道。
台湾“联合新闻网”以“陆推同等待遇出新招”为题报道称，大陆国务院今日上午举行新闻发布会，国务院将印发《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》，并于9月1日正式实施，这也是大陆政府便利港澳台居民在大陆学习、创业、就业和生活的重要文件。
台湾“中时电子报”也认为，该办法的实施是大陆推行同等待遇的落实举措。报道还介绍了，此次推出的《办法》中，港澳台居住者在内地（大陆）参加“社会保险、劳动就业、上学、就医”等方面可享受的诸多便利。
而岛内绿营媒体又开始习惯性“泛酸”↓
台湾某果日报除了报道公安部副部长侍俊对港澳台居民居住证申请要求的介绍，还声称，这是大陆“拉拢”台湾民众的办法。
台湾陆委会也于16日下午召开记者会，宣称这是大陆“持续推动对台‘统战’措施的一贯做法”。
不过，不同于绿媒和陆委会的反应，岛内网友对大陆的惠台措施纷纷点赞，认为这是“祖国优待”↓
还有网友以自己的经历表示，以前去杭州，对于个别便捷性酒店，港澳台居民没有证件不能入住。如今有了证件，可以入住更实惠的本地旅馆了↓
15日上午，香港行政长官林郑月娥在受访时对中央印发《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》表示，这项措施具有突破性。她代表香港市民就中央对港人的关怀表示感谢。
她进一步解释，该办法回应了香港居民与团体的诉求。依此办法，港人在内地参加社会保险、劳动就业、上学、就医等方面，享受3项权利、6项基本公共服务和9项便利。更满足了很多以往港人对于在内地生活提出的诉求，例如在内地长期工作的香港市民，可以凭居住证带子女往内地接受当地义务教育，入读公立学校；亦可以申请内地银行、保险业务，在当地申请驾驶执照，以及参加职业资格考试等。
香港《明报》、东网、香港商业电台网站、澳门《力报》等多家港澳媒体也对表示了高度关注。
《明报》15日在报道中梳理了该办法中港澳台居民申请居住证的资格及居住证的证件特征，并指出港澳台居民同内地（大陆）民众享有相同便利。
这次，香港反对派媒体某果日报也一改报道“文风”，详细介绍了此次《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》中的各项便利措施，称“除了一般的生活上便利，居住证最大卖点是在国内省市置业的权利”。“申请居住证后，持证者需要缴交社会保障基金（简称社保），若干时间后，有资格购买住宅或者买车”。↓
澳门《力报》16日也对此进行了报道，详细介绍了《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》的具体内容↓
而对于《港澳台居民居住证申领发放办法》的实施，香港网友也认为方便了在内地生活↓
还有香港网友说，如今香港年轻人喜欢去深圳“吃喝玩乐”，（申请居住证后）大不了去内地住啦，可以在内地找工作↓
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From Quora
In modern naval warfare, how does one defend against saturation attacks? If 50 anti-ship missiles are incoming and you only have 45 defensive missiles to shoot them down, are you just screwed?
One very easy and sure way to defend is to remain at peace and with respect to other countries.
Do not go trying to show how mighty you are and steaming your carriers up and down in waters far far from your own waters.
It will be ok to go on friendly courtesy call, in which case your ships and carriers will be welcomed with band and men and women with drinks and garlands of flowers.
Dont go stomping in your jack boots thinking you intimidate China.
In which case know your carriers and assets are tracked and targeted once they cross the 3rd Island Chain by satellites and high flying drones
China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably an interferometer
The Chinese Divine Eagle UAV was designed to detect stealth fighters and bombers.
The total path length from a KJ-2000 AWACS transmitter-(to target)-(to receiver) is about 900km. By using a passive Divine Eagle UAV L-band receiver, it permits a much earlier detection of a stealth aircraft by about 200 to 300km (or 120 to 180 miles). By flying at nearly 80,000 feet, the Divine Eagle passive receiver can avoid being illuminated by the KJ-2000 AWACS L-band radar.
And Soaring Dragon flyign at 25,000 meters, stealth and searching and finding and directing DFs and Mach 3–4 AShMs
The carriers and ships can run, but they cannot hide.
And do not think of a puny strike by 50 AShMs.
China got easily 3000 Mach 3–4 AShMs and with range far exceeding the cover provided by AEGIS ships.
And be aware of what an AShM with a 300-500 kg semi armour piercing shape charged warhead can do.
Current carriers and Burke Ticonderagos are not armoured. But the inner bulkheads will be blown through from one end to the other end and cooking off all the fuel and ammo and rockets inside the hull.
Can your carrier take just one hit? And more likely to have 5–6 hits.
And do not make threats nuking in retaliation for incinerating of carriers.
People in that carrier will not worry or care if carrier is sinking or still floating.
China got far more nukes than you hope to imagine.
Wuming Chan's answer to Is it actually legal to start World War III?
Remain peaceful and respectful.
And be welcomed with marching bands and garlands of flowers and drinks to float your carrier when you get into port on friendly visits.
That will be the best defense against 50 AShMs.
And your only defense against 3,000 AShMs and the couple odd hundreds of DF21Ds and DF26s.
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