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One of the best WW2 tank war movies : "Fury" The Making of

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It is not a good tank movie from a German's point of view....entire battalion wiped out by a stationary M4A2 HVSS Sherman tank.
 

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Hollywood war movies only create fake history and over glamour the American servicemen and equipment American only won WW2 because of ability to mass production of equipment, just aircraft they produced 300k planes of all types. It basically CCP humanwave tactics but better equipped and better firepower.

Personally I prefer to watch German war movies where the main theme is anti war. I watched Stalingrad in cinema in German language when I still a student. Till now I still think it the best war movie I ever seen. The scene where a soldier sliced in two by shrapnel where he died screaming maybe from shock seeing himself being separated in two at waist level make people understand what war will result in.
It is not a good tank movie from a German's point of view....entire battalion wiped out by a stationary M4A2 HVSS Sherman tank.
I agree that Hollywood tend to glamorise their own military. But with well-made movies, the producers will seek to base events on historical facts even though it may be unfavourable to the US. Take the D-Day beach landing scene in Saving Private Ryan. It was so realistic (with so many US marines getting mowed down by German fire) that some WW2 Vets wept, some said it was exactly what happened.

Granted hollywood might exercise creative liberties in between actual events, but that's for continuity and for entertainment value. With reference to WW2, the US and their allies eventually won the war. That's a fact. Militaries win wars by destroying their enemies' soldiers, equipment, and will. And the US and allies did that in Europe, Africa and in the Pacific.

Clint Eastwood's 2006 Flags of Our Fathers (US perspective) and Letters from Iwo Jima (Nip perspective) are two very good movies. He tried to be historically accurate telling the story from both sides.

Stalingrad is a very good war movie too.
 

bobby

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This tank war movie betterer.....

The Battle of the Last Panzer Poster
 

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Hollywood are fucking racist. There were blacks, Asians as well as white serving the military during WW2 but racist Hollywood only have whites in their movies as hero.
Blacks seldom served in frontline role. They were mostly support, cooks, lorry drivers. etc. Very few asians served in Europe with the US army. Mostly japanese kids in 442nd and 100th regimental combat team. so, its not racist in this case.
 

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I enjoyed it. But after watching its Making of, and seeing how historically accurate events, props and the costumes were, I like it even more.
from a tankee point of view, not very realistic in some scenes. but it is what it is
 

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since this thread is about WW2 tank movies, then White Tiger is recommended. its russian made tank movie set in ww2 about the battle between a German tiger tank and KV1s
 

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Yes, it was depicted in Only the Brave (2006). Very good movie.

'Only the Brave' takes you on a haunting journey into the hearts and minds of the forgotten heroes of WWII - the Japanese-American 100th/442nd.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0410403/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3
they were not forgotten. 2 of them were elected to long terms in the US Senate and the House of Representative. Dan Inouye and Sparks Matsunaga
 

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from a tankee point of view, not very realistic in some scenes. but it is what it is
Not all scenes can be 100% accurate but they tried to make it as realistic as possible. Tanks used, weapons used, the effects of armor piercing rounds, the period correct costume, etc. I learned a lot from watching the "Making of".
 

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Not all scenes can be 100% accurate but they tried to make it as realistic as possible. Tanks used, weapons used, the effects of armor piercing rounds, the period correct costume, etc. I learned a lot from watching the "Making of".
But some scenes are sooo bad in the movie. In any tank, no one can open up the hatch from outside. Otherwise what would be the point in sitting in armour? Also, no tanks put their ammo outside. The fact they were reloading their machine gun ammo from the outside is ludicrous. The initial engagement was also all wrong. U would have whacked the column of SS troops with WP and HE and not with MG fire.
 

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But some scenes are sooo bad in the movie. In any tank, no one can open up the hatch from outside. Otherwise what would be the point in sitting in armour? Also, no tanks put their ammo outside. The fact they were reloading their machine gun ammo from the outside is ludicrous. The initial engagement was also all wrong. U would have whacked the column of SS troops with WP and HE and not with MG fire.
Good points. I need to rewatch the movie.
 

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Already have, a few times. And "Pacific". I love war movies.
Tom hanks and Stephen Spielberg are back together producing another ww2 series called Masters of the Air. Should be about the air force ..

But after the disappointment of The Pacific I'm not so hopeful
 

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Another big error in the movie was the 4 Shermans vs 1 Tiger engagement.

1) Any tank commander is trained to take out the lead enemy tank in the column. That is usually the platoon leader's tank and that leaves the platoon confused with no leader. Also, in the movie, the lead tank was Fury, which was an E8 model with the British 17 pounder gun. Its very distinctive with a much longer barrel and the only tank among the 4 capable of killing the Tiger at a decent range. SO, mistake one.

2) The 4 Shermans turning into the Tiger and rushing at it to close the range is the correct tactic. But the Tiger coming out from the treeline to move towards them is a big movie error. Tiger tanks with the 88mm know they have the best gun in the world. They destroyed the last tank in the column from the tree line. They can easily stay put and destroy all the SHermans long before they close the range. The Sherman 75mm gun cannot penetrate the Tiger even at 500 yards, so why bother to help them close the gap?
 
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