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Of Niches and Seng Kang West

makapaaa

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Why is the FAP MPee positioning himself like a spokesman for the HDB and fighting against the very people who voted him to be their representative? To those whoe voted for the FAP Traitors regardless, you fxxxkin did it again!
 

makapaaa

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ST accuses Seng Kang residents of displaying Nimby syndrome

[h=2]ST accuses residents of displaying Nimby syndrome[/h]
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January 9th, 2015 |
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Author: Editorial

On Monday (5 Jan), ST published an article associating the recent Sengkang columbarium saga with 7 other cases of residents opposing developments near their homes (‘Unhappiness over Sengkang temple with columbarium: 7 other cases of residents opposing developments near their homes‘).
The article appeared on ST online website but did not seem to appear in its print version:
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ST wrote, “There have been other cases of people not wanting certain types of amenities in their neighbourhood – or, as many know it, the not-in-my-backyard (Nimby) syndrome.”
In essence, ST is accusing Fernvale Lea residents of displaying the Nimby syndrome.
To bolster its arguments, ST quoted 7 other ‘Nimby’ cases:
1. October 2013 – International school in Pasir Ris
Issue: Building of international school near homes
A group of residents in Pasir Ris were against the idea of a 12-storey international school looming over their homes and causing traffic congestion. They also wanted to preserve the forested area that had to be cleared for the building.
2. February 2013 – Nursing home in Yew Tee
Issue: Some Yew Tee residents were against plans to build a nursing home in their neighbourhood. They raised concerns like noise pollution during construction, traffic congestion in the single-lane roads that serve the area, and the nursing home blocking their view.
3. May 2012 – Nursing home in Bishan East
Issue: Residents said their view would be blocked by the nursing home, and that air flow would be restricted by the building.
4. May 2012 – Tall condominiums in Upper Bukit Timah
Issue: Dairy Farm, Chestnut and Cashew estate residents were concerned about taller condominiums being built in the area blocking their green view of a secondary forest, and towering over their low-rise homes. They were also worried that the development may harm the plant and animal life, and increase surface runoff into a canal, which already fills when it rains. They were also upset that a planned road in the area would cut into a canal-side jogging trail popular with residents.
5. March 2012 – Studio apartments for elderly in Toh Yi
Issue: Residents in Toh Yi were unhappy with the idea of studio apartments for the elderly being built in their estate. Plans were for the apartments to be built where the area’s main recreational facilities – a basketball court, jogging track and community garden – were. Residents were concerned that these facilities would be taken away from them. Some also questioned if the site was suitable for building apartments for the elderly because of the slopes.
6. October 2008 – Workers’ dormitory in Serangoon Gardens
Issue: Serangoon Gardens residents were up in arms over plans to build a workers’ dormitory in their estate. They cited noise and pollution from buses ferrying workers, a possible increase in crime, traffic congestion, and lower market value for their properties in the upper-middle class neighbourhood as reasons for their unhappiness.
7. October 2007 – Funeral home in Sin Ming
Issue: A proposed building in Sin Ming for funeral parlours triggered protests among some of the area’s residents, who said there were already too many of them in the estate. They said that placing it near their residential blocks was not ideal, taking into account traditional superstitions which associate death and dying with bad luck. Some also feared a drop in the value of their properties. The site for the proposed building was an empty plot next to Bright Hill Temple, which is near Ai Tong School and residential areas, including HDB blocks and private condominiums.
Residents’ anger nothing to do with Nimby
The fact of the matter is, at the centre of arguments is that the residents are not happy with HDB giving dodgy information on its BTO flat brochures [Link]. HDB did not state clearly on the brochure that the Chinese temple comes with a columbarium:
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Only at the bottom of page 4 of the brochure, one can find this:
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In the highlighted part of the disclaimer, HDB says:
The proposed facilities, their locations and surrounding land-use shown in the maps and plans are indicative only and subject to change or review. These facilities may include other ancillary uses allowed under URA’s prevailing Development Control guidelines. (emphasis added)
Again, there is no further description of the “ancillary uses” in the brochure.
To find out more about “ancillary uses allowed under URA’s prevailing Development Control guidelines“, one will have to personally visit URA to get the information. Alternatively, he can also try searching through URA’s website for the guidelines.
TRE found a document containing URA’s guidelines after some time: www.ura.gov.sg/circulars/text/dchbnr/placeofworship-dchbnr.pdf, which did say ancillary uses include providing a columbarium service:
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However, it’s not known if everyone can be net savvy enough to find the URA’s guidelines on Internet.
Why go about in an obscure manner to disclose the information? Why not just simply label “Site reserved for Chinese temple cum columbarium” on the said map location? That way, information is clearer and buyers are truly buying their flats with their eyes opened.
 

songsongjurong

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Re: ST accuses Seng Kang residents of displaying Nimby syndrome

just move in to iskander.roll them in, fulfill old coot final wish.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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PAP MP doesn't understand that he is what he is because of the votes residents have given him... he doesn't understand who are his real bosses.

Goh Meng Seng


Why is the FAP MPee positioning himself like a spokesman for the HDB and fighting against the very people who voted him to be their representative? To those whoe voted for the FAP Traitors regardless, you fxxxkin did it again!
 

Papsmearer

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Why is the FAP MPee positioning himself like a spokesman for the HDB and fighting against the very people who voted him to be their representative? To those whoe voted for the FAP Traitors regardless, you fxxxkin did it again!

The worse thing is that the stupid Sengkang West residents just send this fucker and 3 busloads of crassloot entourage to Taipei for a free "retreat". This is how the ingrate pays them back.
 

blissquek

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Re: Construction of controversial columbarium under way despite mp promising dialogue

Once it's decided, it's hard to retract back the decision

It is losing face the harder part..so their strategy..

1. Stall and let time take the heat off.

2. Use the media muzzle.. and soon it will out of the news.

Not likely they will do a about-turn.
 

blissquek

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Why is the FAP MPee positioning himself like a spokesman for the HDB and fighting against the very people who voted him to be their representative? To those whoe voted for the FAP Traitors regardless, you fxxxkin did it again!

Only scums behave in such manner.....
 

makapaaa

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The worse thing is that the stupid Sengkang West residents just send this fucker and 3 busloads of crassloot entourage to Taipei for a free "retreat". This is how the ingrate pays them back.

To be fair to the Seng Kang residents, the FAP Traitor MPee and grasslooters probably helped themselves to the trip.
 

Seee3

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Re: Construction of controversial columbarium under way despite mp promising dialogue

It is losing face the harder part..so their strategy..

1. Stall and let time take the heat off.

2. Use the media muzzle.. and soon it will out of the news.

Not likely they will do a about-turn.
HDB cannot do u turn but successful bidder can. Money can make the world go round. 5m to gain a big favour may be worth it.
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Re: Construction of controversial columbarium under way despite mp promising dialogue

Who will be the biggest losers in this Sengkang West saga if HDB and URA just ignored the people's protest and demands? It isn't going to be the residents although some of them may just give up and lose their hard earn money in deposits for their BTO. Not the religious organizations who will be short changed by HDB and URA's assertion that commercial companies with more financial power are allowed to compete with them in bidding for religious land and worst, make use of their religions to make money.

The ultimate losers are HDB, URA and PAP because they will lose something even money cannot buy... Public Trust!
Conclusion: I thank those civil servants in HDB and URA for the great help to opposition in cutting down PAP's public standing by doing such silly things!


Goh Meng Seng

HDB cannot do u turn but successful bidder can. Money can make the world go round. 5m to gain a big favour may be worth it.
 

JohnTan

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Re: Construction of controversial columbarium under way despite mp promising dialogue

Who will be the biggest losers in this Sengkang West saga if HDB and URA just ignored the people's protest and demands? It isn't going to be the residents although some of them may just give up and lose their hard earn money in deposits for their BTO. Not the religious organizations who will be short changed by HDB and URA's assertion that commercial companies with more financial power are allowed to compete with them in bidding for religious land and worst, make use of their religions to make money.

The ultimate losers are HDB, URA and PAP because they will lose something even money cannot buy... Public Trust!
Conclusion: I thank those civil servants in HDB and URA for the great help to opposition in cutting down PAP's public standing by doing such silly things!


Goh Meng Seng

Please lah! PAP will still win the coming GE. Your teams lost to unpopular PAP candidates like Tin Pei Ling and Mah Bow Tan. What chance do you think you will have against candidates like our DPM Teo and Dr. Lam?
 

HTOLAS

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Re: Construction of controversial columbarium under way despite mp promising dialogue

Wow! Astute.

Who will be the biggest losers in this Sengkang West saga if HDB and URA just ignored the people's protest and demands? It isn't going to be the residents although some of them may just give up and lose their hard earn money in deposits for their BTO. Not the religious organizations who will be short changed by HDB and URA's assertion that commercial companies with more financial power are allowed to compete with them in bidding for religious land and worst, make use of their religions to make money.

The ultimate losers are HDB, URA and PAP because they will lose something even money cannot buy... Public Trust!
Conclusion: I thank those civil servants in HDB and URA for the great help to opposition in cutting down PAP's public standing by doing such silly things!


Goh Meng Seng
 

blissquek

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PAP MP doesn't understand that he is what he is because of the votes residents have given him... he doesn't understand who are his real bosses.

Goh Meng Seng



To give it more bite and drama...surprise that no one has named this tussle as People of Fernvale Lea vs Lam Pin Min Columbarium......

This idea is from one forumer who suggests that the first niche should be reserved for him.

Afterall, in Sengkang he holds the highest position and rightfully should be placed on the highest altar.

( I am fed up with this turncoat..he is supposed to be on the side of the residents. And he betrays their trust)
 
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Fernvale temple: More than meets the eye

SINGAPORE - There will be no commercial columbarium at the proposed temple site at Sengkang, National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan said in Parliament on Thursday.

He said that until the recent case of the Chinese temple site in Sengkang, the Government had never awarded a place of worship site to a company that was not affiliated to a religious organisation.

"We now understand that the winning tenderer for this site, Eternal Pure Land Pte Ltd, is actually a private company without any religious affiliation," he said.

"From what we know, the plan of the company is to run a commercial columbarium on the site. This is not in line with our plan for the place of worship site."

The site was awarded to Eternal Pure Land under the impression that the company was a vehicle for a religious organisation to build and own a Chinese temple, he said.

Mr Khaw said the ministry will ensure the land is restored to the original plan of a Chinese temple and that it is in discussion with Eternal Pure Land on how that can be achieved.

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- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/si...m-fernvale-says-khaw-boon-wan-201#xtor=CS1-10
 

zeroo

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Re: Breaking: PAP surrender! Fernvale residents win!

PAP listened, PAP is the People's party!
 

johnny333

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Re: Breaking: PAP surrender! Fernvale residents win!

How do we know that the PAP will not change their mind "after" the GE:confused:
 

Narong Wongwan

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Re: Breaking: PAP surrender! Fernvale residents win!

Elections near that's why.
See the power of the threat of the vote?
What is more powerful is the actual vote. Use it against vile Pappies and see more better changes.
 
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