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Serious Nigeria: Muslim leader claims Jesus was a Muslim!!!!!!

Ang Moh?...what ang moh?...the scientific study was conducted by Genome Institute based in Singapore ..has its office in 60 Biopolis street ,you can call them and screw them and tender your findings to be published in a scientific journal so that scientists may scrutinise

the Genome Institute is headed by sinkie chink scientist...and a team of international scientist from Tiong land and Keling land included

they had mapped human from Africa to India than to SEA than to China
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2790583
Afterall, it is still hypothesis! Scientist is unable to determine the truth! They only can come out hypothesis which is not 100% accurate! They also cant determine how the world was created and only can come out with hypothesis! Their job is a researcher and of cuz they need rice bowl to create hypothesis!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_River
 
The ah neh were cursed to have met moslems. Previous waves of invaders, including Alexander the Great, didn't leave the indian civilization so badly damaged. The legacy of the moslem invasion was to leave the ah nehs divided into two main camps today; hindus vs the cocksuckers of the foreign moslem invaders.

The legacy of the moslem invasion was to tear the ah neh civilization into three countries of india, pakistan and bangladesh, where ah nehs hate fellow ah nehs because of religious differences.
The video says it's not Muslims that damaged ancient hindu cities and temples. It was the rising sea waters that did it.
 
The video says it's not Muslims that damaged ancient hindu cities and temples. It was the rising sea waters that did it.

Rising seawaters will only damage the hindu cities along the coast. Most of the early moslem invasions were in the regions stretching from the northwest of india like Punjab to Delhi to Bengal, along the main trunk road. The moslem foreign invaders came from the 700 AD onwards, while the period in the video was probably much earlier.
 
there are evidences that they had civilization more than 12000 years ago

Who knows how many ancient cities lie at the bottom of the ocean . The one off the coast of Japan discovered by divers were deemed to be of natural occurrence.


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WHAT LIES BENEATH? These underwater ruins are known as Japan’s Atlantis… and no one is quite sure how the mysterious slabs got there
Divers stumbled across the massive sandstone formations while hunting sharks in the Pacific
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  • SOPHIE ROBERTS
  • 8 Feb 2017, 16:00
  • Updated: 9 Feb 2017, 13:00
WHEN divers went looking for hammerhead sharks in the Pacific Ocean they never expected to stumble across these incredible underwater ruins.
All manner of theories have been used to try and explain how the massive slabs got there, from them forming naturally to being man-made or even put there by aliens.
 How the ancient slabs of rock formed has been disputed since they were discovered in the 1987
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How the ancient slabs of rock formed has been disputed since they were discovered in the 1987Credit: Alamy
A mixture of sandstone and mudstone makes up the mysterious Yonaguni Monument, which is 490ft by 130ft and around 90ft high.
The location, sometimes described as Japan’s Atlantis, lies in the Pacific Ocean… but no one quite knows how the wreckage got there.
Since the site was uncovered in 1987, scholars have argued about how the ruins were created.
 
U say tat one died out so not counted plus ah neh is a snake and they purposely lie the date earlier than the han chinese! Anyway, whichever civilization come out first will be always debatable! But yeah the han chinese is oldest continuous most sucessful civilization!
provided for information purposes. :smile:

During the silk road era, all nations have to come china and trade business and buy china goods and learn china advance technologies! China is only lousy during 20th century where the ang mo became smart and industrialize after learning from china!
Actually China started dying 500 years before. After Tang dynasty, too many foreigners in charge. Truly after the Mongolians invaded, China's fate is downhill after that. 20th century is only the tail end. Ang moh is the last to kick the beaten man.
 
I own some rental property too.
ok... will amend my internal database to reflect that in addition to appearing in many HK movies in the 70s and 80s, you are a successful businessman, landlord and PAP grassroots leader... :thumbsup: :biggrin:
 
It's not the Seas fault totally that our Histories are jumbled up it's the flipping of the poles.

A geomagnetic reversal is a change in a planet's magnetic field such that the positions of magnetic north and magnetic south are interchanged (not to be confused with geographic north and geographic south). ... Reversal occurrences are statistically random. There have been 183 reversals over the last 83 million years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

In the past 65 million years since the last mass extinction there have been reversals roughly every 300,000 years. When the poles flip the earth crust moves even more sideways and inward too it's a natural resetting of our fauna and flora hence i've always said this is a 3rd density factory will always remain thus hence the chaos too.

There will be huge waves and earthquakes like The Noah time these stories are tied to the Cosmic Cycles it's a natural phenomenon. I-Ching has all the calculations/records. Major events are inevitable.

Without the chaos there would be no spiritual growth and polarizations.
 
Islam in Chinese is 伊斯兰教. Sounds like ..... In Hokkien.
 
Who knows how many ancient cities lie at the bottom of the ocean . The one off the coast of Japan discovered by divers were deemed to be of natural occurrence.


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WHAT LIES BENEATH? These underwater ruins are known as Japan’s Atlantis… and no one is quite sure how the mysterious slabs got there
Divers stumbled across the massive sandstone formations while hunting sharks in the Pacific
WTF
  • SOPHIE ROBERTS
  • 8 Feb 2017, 16:00
  • Updated: 9 Feb 2017, 13:00
WHEN divers went looking for hammerhead sharks in the Pacific Ocean they never expected to stumble across these incredible underwater ruins.
All manner of theories have been used to try and explain how the massive slabs got there, from them forming naturally to being man-made or even put there by aliens.
 How the ancient slabs of rock formed has been disputed since they were discovered in the 1987
5
How the ancient slabs of rock formed has been disputed since they were discovered in the 1987Credit: Alamy
A mixture of sandstone and mudstone makes up the mysterious Yonaguni Monument, which is 490ft by 130ft and around 90ft high.
The location, sometimes described as Japan’s Atlantis, lies in the Pacific Ocean… but no one quite knows how the wreckage got there.
Since the site was uncovered in 1987, scholars have argued about how the ruins were created.
there was also some documentary on
thanks for the link! :thumbsup:
the underwater civilization found in southern India, Tamil Nadu, is much more significant than the one I posted..but could not find the link anymore ..think ,it was by national geographic channel ...the reason is the current Indian government itself is fucking Indian or rather Dravidian history ..you see ,all these discoveries contridict Hinduism and secondly it augments Aryan invasion and destruction of the Indus and Dravidian civilization ..Yes,the Aryans did more damage to India in the name of Hinduism than the Muslim invaders ...this is the narrative the current Indian government and particularly Hindu nationalist do not want to be published

just a few years back the Indian archaeologist dug up an entire village in Tamil Nadu dating Back to 600,or 1000 BC...but guess what ,the Indian government did ?..it immediately sacked the archaeologist cut the funding and closed the evacuation and it took all the evacuated materials elsewhere ..than the Tamils protested vehemently and sought the court for justice ...and it opened again ..Why ?

for a simple reason ,there was no evidence of any Hindu gods unearthed or worshipped..which proved Hinduism was established by invading Aryans .. ..but the link I had posted to you ..the narrative ,official that is ,the existence of Hinduism but that is simply to story the officials want you to hear.

even in the so called Hindu epic such as the Ramayana which is essentially a conquest of Aryan over Dravidian...and it is this thingy that till today is the curse of India..of course,the Muslim invasion is over hyped to hide the tyranny of Hinduism that destroyed the entire Indian civilization

 
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@ChristJohnny is this you? :laugh::laugh:


sorry to disturb your post, but would like to humbly suggest a few corrections for you to consider. Jesus started teaching 1 AD. Christianity as you know it probably originated 313 AD. The whole religion was thrown together at the council of Nicaea. This is some 300 years after Jesus. :eek: I dunno about you but 300 years later, everything is going to blur, let alone back when nobody could read and write.

Islam is more vague. Mohammed lived around 600 AD, and his first attempt at codifying his instructions in 622 AD resulted in only 47 distinct edicts. صحيفة المدينة‎, Ṣaḥīfat al-Madīnah; or ميثاق المدينة, Mīthāq al-Madīnah "Covenant of Medina". 10 of these relate to identifying the tribes to be covered and their responsibilities. Even more amazing and hilarious is MORE than 10 further one proclamations dedicated to Jews and their rights and responsibilities. I find that the 1st official document of Islam to be more about Jews than Muslims. :laugh: This document gives rise to the ummah which means the body of all followers of Islam. This document does not resemble the Koran today, but fits the idea that Mohammed was ummi. It reads like the work of an illiterate person. Notably, Mohammed names his own tribe (quraysh) as a bunch of farkers who should have no rights. @whoami , you may find the above snippet of history interesting as well.

After his death, the Koran was compiled by Zayd bin Thabit in 655 AD some 23 years after Mohammed's death because *ahem* all the other followers who knew it by heart were dead *ahem*. I think he was the true author of the Koran and was pushed to do it by the 1st self-proclaimed caliph of Mecca at that time to secure Mecca as a seat of power.

Both stories share 1 similarity. There was a teacher of great influence who taught a lot. Decades and centuries after they died, someone else created their books that we follow today. Both books were created by a ruler of a land pushing for it's creation.

In Islam's case, I find it quite likely that they were very heavily influenced by Jewish teachings given Mohammed's preoccupation with them.

In short, both religions are the product of power hungry landlords.

Ahem...Caliph Abu Bakar was chosen by the followers. Not self proclaimed as u had put it. People have to die, rite?

Yes...most of the followers memorised the Quran by heart - harfiz. Why "ahem"? Dont believe? Even now we have millions of Muslims all over the world who are hafiz. Even my BIL son is a hafiz. Subhannallah! :thumbsup: Everyone have to die. If all those hafiz were to die, then how to spread God's word? The more hafiz available the better. Can test the authenticity. Wat better way was to compile and standardise it into a book for generation to come to use. Why "ahem"?

I really dont understand u. Wats the problem even teres some link between Islam and Judaism? Its the same God. During Prophet Moses pbuh time the message only meant for tat specific people, Jews. Same for Jesus pbuh time. But Prophet Muhammad pbuh message is meant for all mankind. Regardless of race and colour.

I dont agree. If Prophet pbuh was hunger for power he would be rich, no?

“I found the prophet pbuh one day and he was lying on a mat. I sat down and he drew up his lower garment over him and he had nothing (else) over him, and that the mat had left its marks on his sides. I looked with my eyes in the storeroom of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). I found only a handful of barley equal to one sa' and an equal quantity of the leaves of Mimosa Flava placed in the nook of the cell, and a semi-tanned leather bag hanging (in one side), and I was moved to tears (on seeing this extremely austere living of the Holy Prophet), and he said: Ibn Khattab, what wakes you weep? I said: Apostle of Allah, why should I not shed tears? This mat has left its marks on your sides and I do not see in your storeroom (except these few things) that I have seen; Caesar and Chosroes are leading their lives in plenty whereas you are Allah's Messenger. His chosen one, and that is your store! He said: Ibn Khattab, aren't you satisfied that for us (there should be the prosperity) of the Hereafter, and for them (there should be the prosperity of) this world? I said: Yes. “ This was in the Medina when he was technically a king. When he died he didnt have any money, and whatever he had he asked his wife to give it away. He was even indebted to a Jewish man in Medina (yes jews stayed there and had all their rights , only the ones involved in treason were deported), he, pbuh, asked his uncle to pay him back. He did not give inheritance to his wives and children, not a single penny, and he stated that Messengers dont give inheritance except religion and knowledge.

So yeah, he was rich before being a prophet, then forced in extreme poverty for 13 years , then stayed poor by choice. Anyone who claims the otherwise pretty much contradicts every single historical source about his wealth.

As for the Quran compilation process/history, following for ur read i.e. if u are interested...ahem...

https://www.minhaj.org/english/tid/2929/The-History-And-Compilation-Of-The-Holy-Quran.html
 
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The fact that the quran itself started with

THE HEIFER

With God’s name, the gracious, the merciful

2:1 A.L.M. 2:2 That Book is without doubt - in it - a guide - for those who are observant 2:3 Those who trust with the unseen and they uphold the commitments - and from what We provided to them - they contributed 2:4 And they trust with what is transmitted to you and what was transmitted from before you, and with the hereafter - they are positively certain. 2:5 They are - over the guidance from their Lord - and they are - the ones who benefit.

"Shall I seek OTHER THAN THE GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people, they will take you away from the path of The God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think." (Quran, 6:114-116)

Please explain how god told mohamad that its going to be a book, but mohamad did not bother to print it.
 
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Ahem...Caliph Abu Bakar was chosen by the followers. Not self proclaimed as u had put it. People have to die, rite?

Yes...most of the followers memorised the Quran by heart - harfiz. Why "ahem"? Dont believe? Even now we have millions of Muslims all over the world who are hafiz. Even my BIL son is a hafiz. Subhannallah! :thumbsup: Everyone have to die. If all those hafiz were to die, then how to spread God's word? The more hafiz available the better. Can test the authenticity. Wat better way was to compile and standardise it into a book for generation to come to use. Why "ahem"?

I really dont understand u. Wats the problem even teres some link between Islam and Judaism? Its the same God. During Prophet Moses pbuh time the message only meant for tat specific people, Jews. Same for Jesus pbuh time. But Prophet Muhammad pbuh message is meant for all mankind. Regardless of race and colour.

I dont agree. If Prophet pbuh was hunger for power he would be rich, no?
i think you don't get anything I've written.:redface: All the above you write is NOT what I intend to convey. Especially last sentence I bolded is not what I said. :confused:

nvm, I try again. It's the caliph who's power hungry not Mohammed. Mohammed was long dead by the time they start trying to put the Koran together. And ahem is because anybody else who can confirm or deny anything about Mohammed is supposed to be dead. So conveniently, The Koran is the work of the Caliph not the work of Mohammed. That's all.
 
I always feel that this photo looks more like Peter than Jesus.
well... this is probably because how the Church has chosen to depict Peter and Jesus in their own art. In reality, nobody knows what they actually looked like other than through descriptions. But it's a pretty good idea Jesus was Westernized to look like this because it was initially Westerners who followed him.

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Kind of like how Buddha in Japan looks Japanese.

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i think you don't get anything I've written.:redface: All the above you write is NOT what I intend to convey. Especially last sentence I bolded is not what I said. :confused:

nvm, I try again. It's the caliph who's power hungry not Mohammed. Mohammed was long dead by the time they start trying to put the Koran together. And ahem is because anybody else who can confirm or deny anything about Mohammed is supposed to be dead. So conveniently, The Koran is the work of the Caliph not the work of Mohammed. That's all.

Ahem....actually the Quran was already compiled long long ago. In the hafiz heart. :smile: If hundreds and thousands of the hafiz recited similarly, whats tere to doubt? They are God fearing believers.
 
Ahem....actually the Quran was already compiled long long ago. In the hafiz heart. :smile: If hundreds and thousands of the hafiz recited similarly, whats tere to doubt? They are God fearing believers.
that's exactly my point. I am not here to insult anyone let alone Mohammed.

So back to the only point. The caliph claimed that all the hafiz close to Mohammed dead and not available to contribute to the Koran, so he took it upon himself to produce it. The scriptures are a work of the Caliph and writer Zayd. Not Mohammed. Not the hundreds of thousands of hafiz. Only the Caliph and his chosen writer.

The only thing that can be verified to be the work of Mohammed was the original 47 decrees which look nothing like the Koran.
 
that's exactly my point. I am not here to insult anyone let alone Mohammed.

So back to the only point. The caliph claimed that all the hafiz close to Mohammed dead and not available to contribute to the Koran, so he took it upon himself to produce it. The scriptures are a work of the Caliph and writer Zayd. Not Mohammed. Not the hundreds of thousands of hafiz. Only the Caliph and his chosen writer.

The only thing that can be verified to be the work of Mohammed was the original 47 decrees which look nothing like the Koran.

The link i provide to u just now. Do u actually click it and read? Ahem.

Hadrat Zaid bin Thabbit (rad) set about completing the task. He collected all the written parts of the Qur’an from date leaves, parchment and pieces of leather and also listened to many of the hafiz who recited verses from their memories. After having carefully compared and cross checked each ayah, he compiled the written Qur’an into one single volume. Sayyidina Abu Bakr became its official custodian, passing on to Sayyidina Umar bin Kattab (rad) during his caliphate. After his demise the Qur’anic volume was passed into the custody of his daughter Hadrat Hafsah (rad).
 
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