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Ngiam Tong Dow: Post Civil Service Crackpot?

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10 sayings by ex-top civil servant Ngiam Tong Dow that lays the smack down on everyone

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You thought only Lee Kuan Yew could provide you with quotable quotes? Try Ngiam Tong Dow.

By Belmont Lay

Calling the former top civil servant Ngiam Tong Dow “outspoken” is like saying a nuclear holocaust is “regrettable”.

Because that would be an understatement.

You might have to hear it to believe it. But the quotes this man gives makes him a living legend.

Ngiam has served as Permanent Secretary in the Prime Minister’s Office under Lee Kuan Yew, as well as in various other ministries. He has earned his reputation as a no-nonsense kind of guy. Someone with clout. Someone who can speak his mind without fear or favour.

At 73, he could be trimming bonsai, shooting the breeze and smoking a pipe.
But no, he is still out laying the smack down on everyone.
So, here are 10 Ngiam Tong Dow sayings from his recent wide-ranging interview in the September edition of the Singapore Medical Association newsletter that will make him go down in history for giving it like a manly man.

1. “I think a lot of these pseudo-economists and pseudo-politicians say Singaporeans should be employed first, but are Singaporeans fit or willing to do some of these job?”

Source

Ngiam shows what he thinks of today’s naysayers who regard foreigners as stealing Singaporeans’ jobs.

2. “My favourite topic — I’m on public record — is Formula 1 (F1). We’re paying the Englishmen to stage the F1 night race here. Why should we use taxpayers’ money to pay for these races? I have asked this question publicly, but the MOF has never addressed it.”

Source
Ngiam thinks the Ministry of Finance is dodgy.


3. “I was born in a generation where every cent counts, so I believe we should spend our money wisely, and not on frivolities. Sometimes, I think our present Cabinet spends money on frivolities, and staging the F1 is my “favourite” example.”

Source

Ngiam tells the present Cabinet ministers to shove it with their frivolities.

4. “A Hong Kong delegation asked me what I consider frivolities. In Hong Kong, they have fireworks displays every year. One of the delegates asked me whether I thought it was a waste of public money. If everyone in Hong Kong can see the fireworks, then there is no waste; if only a restricted number of people can see it, then the money spent is wasted.”

Source
Ngiam tells why a public good paid for by taxpayers should be non-rivalrous.

5. “For example, one of my favourite topics to show the stark difference in priorities during my younger days and today is work-life balance. During my younger days, we never thought of work-life balance. For me, my first plane ride was for a work conference in Bangkok!”

Source
Ngiam thinks work-life balance is making our present generation chumps.

6. “In the early days, Lim Kim San and Goh Keng Swee worked night and day, and they were truly dedicated. I don’t know whether Lee Kuan Yew will agree but it started going downhill when we started to raise ministers’ salaries, not even pegging them to the national salary but aligning them with the top 10.”

Source
Ngiam thinks Singapore’s leaders are overpaid and it’s not working out.

7. “When you raise ministers’ salaries to the point that they’re earning millions of dollar, every minister — no matter how much he wants to turn up and tell Hsien Loong off or whatever — will hesitate when he thinks of his million-dollar salary. Even if he wants to do it, his wife will stop him.”

Source
Ngiam calls the Prime Minister “Hsien Loong” casually. And he labels ministers’ wives as gold diggers.

8. “The Civil Service has definitely become tamer, which is not good because we need a contest of ideas. The difference is that no one wants to make a sacrifice any more. The first generation of PAP was purely grassroots, but the problem today is that PAP is a bit too elitist.”

Source: Terence Lee
Ngiam tells the Civil Service and PAP to shove it.

9. “We shouldn’t buy trophies. The best thing is to train our own people and give them the experience. I wrote an article some time ago on how we were spending over $6 billion trying to raise productivity. I found out that we have 30,000 trained workers each year, if we took into account the graduates from all our universities, polytechnics and Institutes of Technical Education! Yet, our employers refuse to take them on because they say that while the graduates may have the theories, they may not be able to do the job!”


Source
Ngiam wants to nurture our own local talents to unlock their own achievements.

10. “For example, the delivery of medical care falls squarely on the shoulders of our nurses, so I was very upset to read that our Population White Paper classified nursing as a “low-skilled” job. Whoever passed that document should have his pay revoked. (laughs)”

Source

Ngiam wants to revoke the salaries of some people who worked on the unpopular Population White Paper.

Somebody, give this man a beer.

Read Ngiam’s full interview:
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Former top civil servant Ngiam Tong Dow said he gave the "wrong impression" in a controversial interview last month in which he said current ministers are afraid to speak up and elitist

On Thursday, Mr Ngiam sent a clarification statement to the editor of the Singapore Medical Association (SMA) News which had published the interview.

In this statement, Mr Ngiam retracted his earlier charge that today's ministers are afraid of speaking up in Cabinet because of their high salaries, saying it was "illogical" and unfair. He also said that ministers are not elitist, as he had spoken without realising many in fact come from humble backgrounds.

"I retired from the civil service in 1999. Since then I have not attended any cabinet meetings, and have never seen one chaired by PM Lee Hsien Loong. Thus my statement that ministers will not speak their minds before PM Lee is unfair as it was made without knowing what actually happens at cabinet meetings today," he said.

"I have been told by civil servant colleagues that cabinet discussions are robust - as robust as they were when I attended cabinet meetings as PS (PMO), when Mr Goh Chok Tong was PM, and Mr Lee Hsien Loong DPM."

Mr Ngiam added that he knows some ministers have given up successful and well-paying careers in the private sector to join politics at lower pay, while others could have chosen to join the private sector to make more money but did not.

"They have no reason not to speak their minds when they are convinced that they are doing right by Singaporeans," he said.

Mr Ngiam also stirred up controversy with remarks suggesting that the certificate of entitlement (COE) system was introduced to "collect more money" for the government.

In his letter, he clarified that "it was not the case".

"The fundamental purpose of the COE scheme was to limit Singapore's car population. If the intent had been to raise revenue, I would not have supported the policy as permanent secretary at the Finance Ministry," he said.

Mr Ngiam is the former chairman of the Economic Development Board and was permanent secretary of several ministries before he retired in 1999.

Here is Mr Ngiam's clarification statement in full:

From the feedback from friends and colleagues who read my interview published in SMA news, September 2013 Issue, it has come to my attention that I had given the wrong impression in several ways.

I had described my discussions with Mr Lee Kuan yew about the COE scheme as an example of Mr Lee's openness in discussin policies, even with officials. I realise that my comments might suggest that the COE scheme was implemented to raise funds. That was not the case. The fundamental purpose of the COE scheme was to limit Singapore's car population. If the intent had been to raise revenue, I would not have supported the policy as Permanent Secretary at the Finance ministry.

I also realise on re-reading the interview that I had not been fair in what I had said about Ministers and discussions in Cabinet. I retired from the civil service in 1999. Since then I have not attended any cabinet meetings, and have never seen one chaired by PM Lee Hsien Loong. Thus my statement that Ministers will not speak their minds before PM Lee is unfair as it was made without knowing what actually happens at Cabinet meetings today. I have been told by civil servant colleagues that Cabinet discussions are robust - as robust as they were when I attended cabinet meetings as PS (PMO), when Mr Goh Chok Tong was PM and Mr Lee Hsien Loong DPM.

I also realise that my claim that Ministers may not speak up because they earn high salaries is illogical. I know that some Ministers have given up high-flying and well-paid careers in the private sector in order to serve the public at a fraction of their original or potential income. Others could have gone to the private sector to make more money but have chosen to be in the public service. They have no reason not to speak their minds when they are convinced that they are doing right by Singaporeans.

I had also said that the current crop of leaders is elitist. I had spoken without realising that many had in fact come from humble backgrounds.

I had the privilege and honour of working with Mr Lee Kuan Yew, Dr Goh Keng Swee, Mr Hon Sui Sen and Mr Lim Kim San. I have said many times that Mr Lee is my hero and that Singaporea was lucky to have had such a team to steer it from third world to first. The Cabinet today faces different and less straightforward challenges, having to deal with globalisation and more intense international competition. However, as I had mentioned in my interview, we are starting from a good position - for example, in healthcare, one of the main subjects of the interview.
 
Belmont Lay can go and worship at the feet of a man with a forked tongue.
 
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Probably age related.
 
Belmont Lay can go and worship at the feet of a man with a forked tongue.

I thought only a certain people which is 'sun fried' possess a fork tongue ? 7 question is often ask on whether we should shoot the snake first. Didn't know, that this trait had been passed on...
 
“When you raise ministers’ salaries to the point that they’re earning millions of dollar, every minister — no matter how much he wants to turn up and tell Hsien Loong off or whatever — will hesitate when he thinks of his million-dollar salary. Even if he wants to do it, his wife will stop him.”

Well said. Good point.
 
hi there


1. ah pek is just some barking old dog:kma:
2. some used item living out its day.
 
Liddat, he has practically recanted everything he said. His prospects of becoming nominated by the PAP for the elected Prez is dimmer; and his election by the voters dimmerer.
 
after, before, during, what's the difference?

The difference is he is so well fed, now having amnesia...forget the mantra of "thou shall not bite thy hand the feed thou"
 
Former top civil servant Ngiam Tong Dow said he gave the "wrong impression" in a controversial interview last month in which he said current ministers are afraid to speak up and elitist ...
tis burger has now given ze impression 2 peasants dat he's a crackpot ...

he shud now cum out n clarify dat "it was not the case" ... :rolleyes:
 
tis burger has now given ze impression 2 peasants dat he's a crackpot ...

he shud now cum out n clarify dat "it was not the case" ... :rolleyes:

Mind I ask..is he HYLAM also?? short??
 
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