My Friend Jocelyn

[TracyTan866]

it sounds like someone wants a 3some. why else would he want his friend to look at your snatch?

my hubby trusts his friend ..

 

[sleaguepunter]

is the SG race well attended?

compare to flemington which attendence was 110k in 2010, sg turfclub attendence at most 25-30k only on SIA Int'l Cup.

compare population, melbourne 2million tops? wheras singapore 5+million yet attendence at major races only 25% of melbourne cup. look like aussies had a bigger gambling problem than us.

 

[Leongsam]

the above are the horses that may run in this year melbourne cup and their odds now. look at that website, totally cater to australian gambling addiction. The biggest of them all is the TAB as ah leong had posted earlier.

This is the problem with many Singaporeans who have but a perfunctory experience of other countries around the world.

When it comes to vices, Australia makes Singapore look like a nunnery in comparison. The depravity in large Australian cities has to be seen to be believed and much of it controlled by an underworld that probably comes pretty close to early 20th century Chicago.

Those of you who remember the film "The Godfather" starring Marlon Brando would have been able to see the script unfolding in real life in Melbourne over the last few years.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-gangland-wars

There's even a Wikipedia page dedicated to the subject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_gangland_killings

 

[TracyTan866]

compare to flemington which attendence was 110k in 2010, sg turfclub attendence at most 25-30k only on SIA Int'l Cup.

compare population, melbourne 2million tops? wheras singapore 5+million yet attendence at major races only 25% of melbourne cup. look like aussies had a bigger gambling problem than us.

from waht u said and from Melb cup and SIA cup, it appears to be so.

But gambling problem is not measured by these two races alone..

 

[Leongsam]

can the Melbourne cup cause as much damage and addiction as a casino? i see much misery after RWS and MBS opened.

http://www.problemgambling.gov.au/

MANY AUSTRALIANS ENJOY AN OCCASIONAL FLUTTER. HOWEVER FOR SOME, GAMBLING CAN BE HIGHLY DESTRUCTIVE – RUINING LIVES AND DESTROYING FAMILIES. THE BIGGEST CAUSE? THE POKIES.
Australians spend nearly $12 billion a year on poker machines and three quarters of people who have a serious problem with gambling are pokie players.
As a community, we have a duty of care to make gambling on poker machines safer and protect people whose gambling is out of control.

 

[TracyTan866]

This is the problem with many Singaporeans who have but a perfunctory experience of other countries around the world.

When it comes to vices, Australia makes Singapore look like a nunnery in comparison. The depravity in large Australian cities has to be seen to be believed and much of it controlled by an underworld that probably comes pretty close to early 20th century Chicago.

Those of you who remember the film "The Godfather" starring Marlon Brando would have been able to see the script unfolding in real life in Melbourne over the last few years.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-gangland-wars

There's even a Wikipedia page dedicated to the subject http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_gangland_killings

vices are newly promoted and openly embraced in SG only recently. already the pap sees the need to mask the social problems created by the casinos in the last two years. u get an idea how serious the problem is by the way the pap tries to manage the release of such information . will t he problem gets increasingly worse? u bet.

 

[sleaguepunter]

can the Melbourne cup cause as much damage and addiction as a casino? i see much misery after RWS and MBS opened.

melbourne cup is just one of the thousands of races conduct in australia every year. australian had a much lower population per casino than spore. The gambling problem in spore had been around way before RWS or MBS. do u know thousands of singaporeans paid $50 for a boat ride from tenah merah jetty to casino ship at international water before casino were built and the ten of thousands that go genting every years. as for jackpots, even been to ntuc operated club? always pack and even located at the heartland.

i am not saying casinos are good but since already built then die die have to live around it. even sdp gain power 2016, casinos will still continue to operate too. instead of wanting govt to deal with it, family members shd help addict to give up.

 

[Leongsam]

Monday, June 20, 2011 8:43 PM EST
[h=3]The gambling problem in Australia by the numbers[/h]75 percent of pokie players. Pokie players are estimated to account for 75-80 percent of all problem gamblers, according to Australia's Productivity Commission. The estimated number of problem gamblers ranges around 115,000 people (0.7 per cent of the adult population) with another 280,000 (1.7 per cent) at 'moderate risk'. Australia has a population of 22,000,000.
$250 per withdrawal. Tasmanian independent MP Andrew Wilkie is also proposing a $250 limit on ATM withdrawals, as part of his ambitious plan to cut gambling losses in the coutnry. Wilkie pledged his support for the minority Labor government at last year's elections in exchange for action taken to clean up problem gambling. The agreement between Senator Wilkie and Prime Minister Gillard also requires incorporating 'dynamic warnings' and cost-of-play displays on gaming machines; and the $250 limit on ATM withdrawals.
$500 max prize. Aside from the withdrawal limit and the warnings, Wilkie's plan involves (i) players on high-intensity machines committing beforehand to a maximum they are prepared to lose over a period and being locked out if they exceed it; or alternatively, (ii) players could agree to restrict themselves to using machines with maximum $1 bets and $500 prizes. According to Mr. Wilkie, 88 per cent of poker machine players bet $1 or less but about half of the remaining 12 per cent are problem gamblers. If the plan is approved, then existing machines would have to be reconfigured or replace.
$590 per hour. A gambler could lose $590 to $1,750 per hour using a two-cent Australian style pokie machine, according to the Productivity Commission. By betting on multiple 'lines' and with multiple credits per line, gamblers can end up wagering $10 every few seconds. People could 'expect' to lose $590 per hour of play if they staked $10 per button push at an average speed of 5.5 seconds per button push. Someone with a quick 'trigger finger' could expect to lose $1,050 an hour, with the most common outcome being a loss of $1,750.
$1,300 per resident. Close to $1,300 (US$1,400) per resident above 17 in Australia were lost to gambling last year, the highest in the world, according to global gaming-industry consultants H2 Gambling Capital. Singapore, which recently built two mega casinos, was next on about US$1150. But as to wealth, Singapore has the highest concentration of millionaire households, with 15.5 percent of all households having at least $1 million, compared to only 1% in Australia.
160,000 people. Clubs, hotels and casinos -- entities that rely on gambling -- employs about 160,000 people, highlighting the fact that the gambling industry provides benefits.
200,000 slot-machines. There are 200,000 slot-machines- known locally as pokies - in Australia.
$23 million profit. Aristocrat Leisure Ltd. reported a profit of $23.3 million on revenue of $137.6 million from the sale of slot machines in Australia in 2010. Revenue declined 33.8% from 2009.
$1.6 billion revenue. Victoria earned $1.6 billion from gambling related taxes in 2008-2009, comprising 13 percent of state revenue. In Queensland and South Australia, it was 11 percent, Tasmania, 10 percent, NSW 9 percent and WA 4 percent, according to Marketwatch. This indicates that Wilkes' plan may not be smooth sailing as states rely on gambling revenue.
$19 billion lost. A total of $19 billion were spent (or lost) by Australians in gambling in 2008-2009, which, is around the same as purchases of motor vehicles, and 40 per cent more than retail alcohol purchases, according to Australia's Productivity Commission.

 

[TracyTan866]

http://www.problemgambling.gov.au/

MANY AUSTRALIANS ENJOY AN OCCASIONAL FLUTTER. HOWEVER FOR SOME, GAMBLING CAN BE HIGHLY DESTRUCTIVE – RUINING LIVES AND DESTROYING FAMILIES. THE BIGGEST CAUSE? THE POKIES.
Australians spend nearly $12 billion a year on poker machines and three quarters of people who have a serious problem with gambling are pokie players.
As a community, we have a duty of care to make gambling on poker machines safer and protect people whose gambling is out of control.

looks like some native ozzies are affected by its asian migrants in gambling addiction

 

[ConyuConhee]

yes, he stressed himself because he wants to give me a baby

if he cunt do it
many here will be willing to do it
on his behalf
i will be the scarificial lamb
first to undertake this task
for the sake of SINGAPORE

 

[TracyTan866]

melbourne cup is just one of the thousands of races conduct in australia every year. australian had a much lower population per casino than spore. The gambling problem in spore had been around way before RWS or MBS. do u know thousands of singaporeans paid $50 for a boat ride from tenah merah jetty to casino ship at international water before casino were built and the ten of thousands that go genting every years. as for jackpots, even been to ntuc operated club? always pack and even located at the heartland.

i am not saying casinos are good but since already built then die die have to live around it. even sdp gain power 2016, casinos will still continue to operate too. instead of wanting govt to deal with it, family members shd help addict to give up.

apparently the effects of gambling have really got bad over the last 12 months. wonder why!

 

[TracyTan866]

Monday, June 20, 2011 8:43 PM EST
[h=3]The gambling problem in Australia by the numbers[/h]75 percent of pokie players. Pokie players are estimated to account for 75-80 percent of all problem gamblers, according to Australia's Productivity Commission. The estimated number of problem gamblers ranges around 115,000 people (0.7 per cent of the adult population) with another 280,000 (1.7 per cent) at 'moderate risk'. Australia has a population of 22,000,000.
$250 per withdrawal. Tasmanian independent MP Andrew Wilkie is also proposing a $250 limit on ATM withdrawals, as part of his ambitious plan to cut gambling losses in the coutnry. Wilkie pledged his support for the minority Labor government at last year's elections in exchange for action taken to clean up problem gambling. The agreement between Senator Wilkie and Prime Minister Gillard also requires incorporating 'dynamic warnings' and cost-of-play displays on gaming machines; and the $250 limit on ATM withdrawals.
$500 max prize. Aside from the withdrawal limit and the warnings, Wilkie's plan involves (i) players on high-intensity machines committing beforehand to a maximum they are prepared to lose over a period and being locked out if they exceed it; or alternatively, (ii) players could agree to restrict themselves to using machines with maximum $1 bets and $500 prizes. According to Mr. Wilkie, 88 per cent of poker machine players bet $1 or less but about half of the remaining 12 per cent are problem gamblers. If the plan is approved, then existing machines would have to be reconfigured or replace.
$590 per hour. A gambler could lose $590 to $1,750 per hour using a two-cent Australian style pokie machine, according to the Productivity Commission. By betting on multiple 'lines' and with multiple credits per line, gamblers can end up wagering $10 every few seconds. People could 'expect' to lose $590 per hour of play if they staked $10 per button push at an average speed of 5.5 seconds per button push. Someone with a quick 'trigger finger' could expect to lose $1,050 an hour, with the most common outcome being a loss of $1,750.
$1,300 per resident. Close to $1,300 (US$1,400) per resident above 17 in Australia were lost to gambling last year, the highest in the world, according to global gaming-industry consultants H2 Gambling Capital. Singapore, which recently built two mega casinos, was next on about US$1150. But as to wealth, Singapore has the highest concentration of millionaire households, with 15.5 percent of all households having at least $1 million, compared to only 1% in Australia.
160,000 people. Clubs, hotels and casinos -- entities that rely on gambling -- employs about 160,000 people, highlighting the fact that the gambling industry provides benefits.
200,000 slot-machines. There are 200,000 slot-machines- known locally as pokies - in Australia.
$23 million profit. Aristocrat Leisure Ltd. reported a profit of $23.3 million on revenue of $137.6 million from the sale of slot machines in Australia in 2010. Revenue declined 33.8% from 2009.
$1.6 billion revenue. Victoria earned $1.6 billion from gambling related taxes in 2008-2009, comprising 13 percent of state revenue. In Queensland and South Australia, it was 11 percent, Tasmania, 10 percent, NSW 9 percent and WA 4 percent, according to Marketwatch. This indicates that Wilkes' plan may not be smooth sailing as states rely on gambling revenue.
$19 billion lost. A total of $19 billion were spent (or lost) by Australians in gambling in 2008-2009, which, is around the same as purchases of motor vehicles, and 40 per cent more than retail alcohol purchases, according to Australia's Productivity Commission.

Aus is truthful.

does the pap reveal all the scars ?

the truth is that the situation in SG may be much worse...just not revealed. ask the people who are helping gambling addictions..

 

[sleaguepunter]

from waht u said and from Melb cup and SIA cup, it appears to be so.

But gambling problem is not measured by these two races alone..

u know how much money change hand every weekend on epl matches in singapore. this u cannt blame casino liao, even Spools can only capture 5% of the market.

 

[TracyTan866]

u know how much money change hand every weekend on epl matches in singapore. this u cannt blame casino liao, even Spools can only capture 5% of the market.

i dont have figures nor statistics. casinos have collateral effects. a gambler who is addicted to casino games can likely be doing other online gambling

 

[ConyuConhee]

my teacher took the trouble to make sure that we do things right

they claimed you are sumiko?
i confess ..... i have a dream
no .... a fantasy
doing a doggy

 

[TracyTan866]

Monday, June 20, 2011 8:43 PM EST
[h=3]The gambling problem in Australia by the numbers[/h]75 percent of pokie players. Pokie players are estimated to account for 75-80 percent of all problem gamblers, according to Australia's Productivity Commission. The estimated number of problem gamblers ranges around 115,000 people (0.7 per cent of the adult population) with another 280,000 (1.7 per cent) at 'moderate risk'. Australia has a population of 22,000,000.
$250 per withdrawal. Tasmanian independent MP Andrew Wilkie is also proposing a $250 limit on ATM withdrawals, as part of his ambitious plan to cut gambling losses in the coutnry. Wilkie pledged his support for the minority Labor government at last year's elections in exchange for action taken to clean up problem gambling. The agreement between Senator Wilkie and Prime Minister Gillard also requires incorporating 'dynamic warnings' and cost-of-play displays on gaming machines; and the $250 limit on ATM withdrawals.
$500 max prize. Aside from the withdrawal limit and the warnings, Wilkie's plan involves (i) players on high-intensity machines committing beforehand to a maximum they are prepared to lose over a period and being locked out if they exceed it; or alternatively, (ii) players could agree to restrict themselves to using machines with maximum $1 bets and $500 prizes. According to Mr. Wilkie, 88 per cent of poker machine players bet $1 or less but about half of the remaining 12 per cent are problem gamblers. If the plan is approved, then existing machines would have to be reconfigured or replace.
$590 per hour. A gambler could lose $590 to $1,750 per hour using a two-cent Australian style pokie machine, according to the Productivity Commission. By betting on multiple 'lines' and with multiple credits per line, gamblers can end up wagering $10 every few seconds. People could 'expect' to lose $590 per hour of play if they staked $10 per button push at an average speed of 5.5 seconds per button push. Someone with a quick 'trigger finger' could expect to lose $1,050 an hour, with the most common outcome being a loss of $1,750.
$1,300 per resident. Close to $1,300 (US$1,400) per resident above 17 in Australia were lost to gambling last year, the highest in the world, according to global gaming-industry consultants H2 Gambling Capital. Singapore, which recently built two mega casinos, was next on about US$1150. But as to wealth, Singapore has the highest concentration of millionaire households, with 15.5 percent of all households having at least $1 million, compared to only 1% in Australia.
160,000 people. Clubs, hotels and casinos -- entities that rely on gambling -- employs about 160,000 people, highlighting the fact that the gambling industry provides benefits.
200,000 slot-machines. There are 200,000 slot-machines- known locally as pokies - in Australia.
$23 million profit. Aristocrat Leisure Ltd. reported a profit of $23.3 million on revenue of $137.6 million from the sale of slot machines in Australia in 2010. Revenue declined 33.8% from 2009.
$1.6 billion revenue. Victoria earned $1.6 billion from gambling related taxes in 2008-2009, comprising 13 percent of state revenue. In Queensland and South Australia, it was 11 percent, Tasmania, 10 percent, NSW 9 percent and WA 4 percent, according to Marketwatch. This indicates that Wilkes' plan may not be smooth sailing as states rely on gambling revenue.
$19 billion lost. A total of $19 billion were spent (or lost) by Australians in gambling in 2008-2009, which, is around the same as purchases of motor vehicles, and 40 per cent more than retail alcohol purchases, according to Australia's Productivity Commission.

a very important point u have to know is that the pap dont tell the whole truth.

the pap tells u what it wants u to hear.

besides what the pap tells u and besides official govt statistics, u discern with your experience on the ground and unofficial statistics. u will be wiser and better informed that way.

silly is the man who believes only in what the pap says

 

[Leongsam]

Aus is truthful.

does the pap reveal all the scars ?

the truth is that the situation in SG may be much worse...just not revealed. ask the people who are helping gambling addictions..

Australia is "truthful" because there are numerous NGOs set up by volunteers and funded by donations to provide support for all sorts of issues and provide publicity and data. This means less time spent in internet forums whinging and more time on the ground organising REAL support and assistance for the less fortunate.

If it was left to the govt of the day, nothing would ever happen as politicians are the same the world over. Bad news is played down. Achievements are amplified.

The difference between the way problems are dealt with in Singapore vs Australia has nothing to do with the PAP and the Gillard govt. It has everything to do with the way ordinary Australians go about helping their fellow citizens.

 

[sleaguepunter]

apparently the effects of gambling have really got bad over the last 12 months. wonder why!

last 12months? it had been bad even b4 i was born.

it look bad now because of new media, ah long activities may seem more than in the past but only because ppl now dare to report mata. in the past, ppl scare ah long than they trust mata. now ah long just splash paint, in the 80s, i seen as a kid, ah long tie pig head plus had a cheaver impaled at the main door when creditors default.

someone i knew go to prison for stealing because of gambling debts incurred at gambling dens in geylang pre-casino days.

 

[sleaguepunter]

i dont have figures nor statistics. casinos have collateral effects. a gambler who is addicted to casino games can likely be doing other online gambling

that not truth. i bet on horse racing but i dont go casino nor online gambling.

 

[Leongsam]

silly is the man who believes only in what the pap says

Silly is the man who believes what Julia Gillard says too. Her trail of broken election promises makes the PAP look like Angels.