Moving to China for good

[dream_waker]

The Chinese are all trying to get out of that awful place and you want to move in????

You CB, it is precisely because of such rubbish reply from you that turn the original SBF into the cesspool that it is today now you want to do it here again.

 

[Non_Elite]

yo bro,
you seems to know alot about china.
I am interested to move to china, what visa or permits do I need to apply to stay there permanently?

please advise.

thanks

If you are super-rich and influential, you can always get a Green card which allow you to stay in China visa-free.

Otherwise, get a Z visa which allows you up to a year with renewal visas. You will need to get a Chinese company or organisation to sponsor your application.

Even getting a normal visa is alright as it allow you to stay up to 3 months. You can do what most people do, make a visa run, by getting out and in of China. Most people will travel to HK, S. Korea or even Vietnam as airfare to these countries are relatively cheap. If you stay in Xiamen, take a train or express bus to HK. If in Dalian or Qingdao, take a overnight ferry to S.Korea.

Or make a trip back to S'pore to collect your rental (assuming you rent out your pigeon-hole), visit friends and relatives or see your heart specialist.

Life will certainly be more interesting than visiting shopping centres and singing at National Day parades!

 

[Non_Elite]

If you think the Sinkie ratrace is tough, the major Chinese cities are ten times worse.

Hi Sam:
I know you are trying hard to educate S'poreans to wake up to the real world
and not stay closeted with their fantasy all the time.

You are right that the rat race in China will be 10X worse, which is why I
stressed again and again not to work or do business there unless you are
very well supported.

However, Xiamen or Hainan can become Singapore III just as Perth
has become Singapore II for retirees, stressed families,
economically-challenged and/or sick-of-MIW people. It's even easier because
you don't have to take up PR or citizenship; just refer to how the Taiwanese,
Koreans and Japanese do it.

 

[davsoo]

greetings everyone.
heard so much about the goodness of staying in dalian,qingdao, xiaman etc.

can someone who has live in these cities related a day life in the place. nothing better then from the horse mouth.

thanks in advance

 

[proffessor_x]

thanks bro,
your advice is well appreciated.

was thinking along that line.
thanks once again

 

[James Porn]

Hi Sam:
I know you are trying hard to educate S'poreans to wake up to the real world
and not stay closeted with their fantasy all the time.

Non_Elite, you the man! I read all your replies on this thread and I like the tone and the sincerity in addressing the topic. We should have more people like you to make this forum a meaningful one. Good stuff and all the best!

 

[Non_Elite]

Non_Elite, you the man! I read all your replies on this thread and I like the tone and the sincerity in addressing the topic. We should have more people like you to make this forum a meaningful one. Good stuff and all the best!

I try my best and I hope it can be enough and not too late. Sometimes, I can
understand Sam's frustration with the quality of questions being asked here...

1. S'poreans thinking they can be 'consultants' in China or investing their
puny $20K in China. Have they even been to China recently? Have they
walked the streets, talked to a Chinese businessman, checked out a graduate
or even visited a business investment office?

2. I was recently in Beijing airport new T3 terminal; the biggest and
swankiest terminal in the world. Did anyone know that Beijing airport was
just a small, run-down and poorly maintained airport just a mere 12 years
ago?

Yet, while queuing to clear customs, I could hear two middle-age
executive-type male S'poreans telling each other how parts of the T3 was
poorly designed or how Changi airport beats T3 here and there. Seesshh...

3. I find it sad that Taiwanese, S.Koreans and Japanese will gather together
in any part of China for social and business purpose without government interference
but S'poreans will ignore each other even if they happened to be working in some
remote Chinese town.

I find it sad that after 43 years of national day parades that S'poreans remain
not worldly-wise, unthinking and forever on their moral high grounds. Is this
the fault of the government or our own fault? Why are we in such a state of
affair? Materially, we are much richer but mentally, we seemed to have not
improve anymore than our forefathers who came here...

 

[Rockgate]

3. I find it sad that Taiwanese, S.Koreans and Japanese will gather together
in any part of China for social and business purpose without government interference but S'poreans will ignore each other even if they happened to be working in some remote Chinese town.

I like what you said on this. Most of the S'poreans that I met are very snobbish, they thought they are superior and knows everything. The Malaysians that I meet here is much more better that S'poreans.

 

[wbtym]

Yunan is a good place to live in if you want to lead a simple life till you die.
The major cities already have very high standards of living.
Nothing much you can do with 20k in China really. The pace of their development is
astonishing. To set up business in China, it is essential to have connections. There are also many permits you must obtain from the chinese goverment. And because of the sheer size of China, each state operates independently.

 

[James Porn]

I find it sad that after 43 years of national day parades that S'poreans remain
not worldly-wise, unthinking and forever on their moral high grounds. Is this
the fault of the government or our own fault? Why are we in such a state of
affair? Materially, we are much richer but mentally, we seemed to have not
improve anymore than our forefathers who came here...

My analysis of why majority of Singaporeans have this mentality is the environment has made us 'petty, envious and extremely competitive'. We do not believe in sharing, in short 'to each his own'. That's my observation.

 

[veritastruth]

It's a national identity thing. PAP has polarised society into Elites and Non-Elites, even in PRC...

 

[cognacrex]

I has been going to fujian area for the pass one-two yr. If u manage to earn in sgd dollar n go there n spent is cheap. U can rent one 2 bedrm unit at ard 6k-10k rmb per YEAR at the town area. I was planning to stay there but was tie down by my kids studies. I believe kids will be better off studing in sg. But to all bros who have planning to migrate there for retirement, can u start look for property there cos the property is going way up. Just a tots of mine.

 

[tmnt]

I has been going to fujian area for the pass one-two yr. If u manage to earn in sgd dollar n go there n spent is cheap. U can rent one 2 bedrm unit at ard 6k-10k rmb per YEAR at the town area. I was planning to stay there but was tie down by my kids studies. I believe kids will be better off studing in sg. But to all bros who have planning to migrate there for retirement, can u start look for property there cos the property is going way up. Just a tots of mine.

bro, if you plan to stay there for long better buy a unit, few yrs back you can make $...
cos china pick up very fast.

 

[Temujin]

bro, if you plan to stay there for long better buy a unit, few yrs back you can make $...
cos china pick up very fast.

Haha, bro on hindsight it is easy to say buy .... just a question, what do you think of now, buy or sell ....

Anyway, it does make sense to still be SG citizen but maybe live outside SG in once of this lower satdnard of living countries, esp those that are near to SG ... and for Chinese ... China is a gd place .... your retiurement money can last l0onger ... but then, please dont think of like cheonging fulltime as it is cheaper there ... then maybe a bigger hole in pocket can be forseen .....

 

[mchotdog]

Anyway, it does make sense to still be SG citizen but maybe live outside SG in once of this lower satdnard of living countries, esp those that are near to SG ... and for Chinese ... China is a gd place .... your retiurement money can last l0onger ... but then, please dont think of like cheonging fulltime as it is cheaper there ... then maybe a bigger hole in pocket can be forseen .....

yo! bro, Temujin ia a hero too....
when we old liao n go china n stay of cos a good place...but old man how to cheong ha

 

[kiko]

Yes , i may consider move to china for good, everything in spore go home. Standard of living is high ,, when i Got my CPA , maybe that is the time to moved there .

 

[marlborotan.]

Hm... I would not consider to do so loh. At least sg dont have natural deserter

 

[bonk_syt]

Was reading the Chinese papers last nite and saw this news about the actor Gallen Lo who is moving to Beijing China for good.

Actually had some thoughts of moving to China after a few years and taking on a job there in Cities like Chong Qing and Cheng Du since SG investing heavily there these few years. Not thinking of going to Guangdong (ZH, SZ) as it is quite messy there while BJ and SH are too expensive

With the exchange rate difference, if we can secure a job with the same kinda pay here, then we should be quite comfortable there.

Perhaps I should consider being a consultant there or something.

Anyone have thoughts about this.

Bro... I like your posting. Give you support on this thread here.:p

 

[Tailok]

Interesting. Hundreds of years ago, our forefathers emigrated from China to find a better life. Now, there are actually ppl who was to reverse the trend to find better life. Wow. Sounds not bad. We took a few generations to earn our stripes and now, "The return of the Prodigal Son".

 

[Tailok]

Hm... I would not consider to do so loh. At least sg dont have natural deserter

Hallo Bro Hoonki,
You meant disasters or deserter?? If we migrate back to China, we should not be called deserter. It's rather like a returning of the Prodigal Son or rather great grandsons... :p