Molek/Johor Jaya

[aliensmotor]

everywhere is the same if you buy non G&G

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If u buy non gated and guarded house........

 

[RedsYNWA]

Good to be back in sunny SG once again. Anyway, some info on Taman Molek/Ponderosa developments, in Pg 3 of this article from Frank Goon, Berinda's CEO. Have not heard of this Ponderosa Waterfront before though.....

http://www.greenbuildingindex.org/News/2013-09/The Edge - molek pine 4.pdf

 

[andrewjb]

http://www.iminvestors.com/molek-regency.html

 

[RedsYNWA]

I was at a developer's office to get some updates on a project at Molek/Ponderosa. Anyway this is what I was told by a confident sounding sales chap:-

A new bridge to connect Ponderosa to JB City area is off the chart for now, as the JB govt is reluctant to partially subsidize the project cost. In-lieu of that, Berinda has made concrete plans for a road link just after Yeo Hiap Seng factory to connect to the Pandan Bridge instead.

In conjunction with this development, there are plans for shophouses along this latest road link (together with 4 condo blocks), and separately, another developer is commencing land clearing works for an integrated project with mall, at the Pandan Bridge-EDL junction.

 

[cascadia]

I was at a developer's office to get some updates on a project at Molek/Ponderosa. Anyway this is what I was told by a confident sounding sales chap:-

A new bridge to connect Ponderosa to JB City area is off the chart for now, as the JB govt is reluctant to partially subsidize the project cost. In-lieu of that, Berinda has made concrete plans for a road link just after Yeo Hiap Seng factory to connect to the Pandan Bridge instead.

In conjunction with this development, there are plans for shophouses along this latest road link (together with 4 condo blocks), and separately, another developer is commencing land clearing works for an integrated project with mall, at the Pandan Bridge-EDL junction.

Expected. The area now wants to exit to main road also need to go thru the terrible jam at tebrau highway (molek) path. In future it will just get worse.

 

[RedsYNWA]

Expected. The area now wants to exit to main road also need to go thru the terrible jam at tebrau highway (molek) path. In future it will just get worse.

Have to wait and see the impact, after Pandan Bridge upgrading is completed at year-end. Anyway I just came back from a trip to PJ. The jams there will put all traffic jams in JB to shame, save for the checkpts! Haha........

 

[cascadia]

Have to wait and see the impact, after Pandan Bridge upgrading is completed at year-end. Anyway I just came back from a trip to PJ. The jams there will put all traffic jams in JB to shame, save for the checkpts! Haha........

Completed by year end? Seriously I doubt it is even possible. We shall see.

 

[RedsYNWA]

Completed by year end? Seriously I doubt it is even possible. We shall see.

Why not possible leh? Year-end is the reported deadline, and no mention of delays so far. Work has been on-going since Dec'13. It's not exactly a massive project too.

 

[FHBH12]

Why not possible leh? Year-end is the reported deadline, and no mention of delays so far. Work has been on-going since Dec'13. It's not exactly a massive project too.

I recall reading a news that completion will be postponed to next year.

 

[RedsYNWA]

I recall reading a news that completion will be postponed to next year.

Sin chew daily? I have been on overseas travel lately, but a google check is not showing up any delay now.....

 

[FHBH12]

Sin chew daily? I have been on overseas travel lately, but a google check is not showing up any delay now.....

I pasted the online news in English somewhere. I recall very clearly it will be delayed. But why am I not surprised? :p Things move slowly in Malaysia.

 

[RedsYNWA]

I pasted the online news in English somewhere. I recall very clearly it will be delayed. But why am I not surprised? :p Things move slowly in Malaysia.

http://www.nanyang.com/node/594943?tid=510

This is what I found. Expected completion date is 28 Dec 2014.

 

[FHBH12]

Not this one. It was announced delayed to 2015. I try to dig out tmr. No way expansion is so fast. Even LTA is slower as it involves piling of river bed.

 

[cascadia]

Why not possible leh? Year-end is the reported deadline, and no mention of delays so far. Work has been on-going since Dec'13. It's not exactly a massive project too.

If u know better the way how gahment works in truly asia, u will know that delay is super normal thing. Not be surprised that it will even take years. Permas bridge last time took 10yrs to finish building.

 

[cascadia]

http://www.nanyang.com/node/594943?tid=510

This is what I found. Expected completion date is 28 Dec 2014.

Delay is not surprised. Pasir gudang expansion has been talking for years and yet to see any prominent progress. All I see over the years are the similar news that project is going to be finished by xxxx. But again every time it is delayed.

 

[FHBH12]

Pasir Gudang is really expanding but phase by phase, slooooowwwly. As long as things are moving I'm happy n I can see e roads near Pandan side getting done up. Poor tax collection n money siphoned off could result in less spending on public projects.

 

[cascadia]

Pasir Gudang is really expanding but phase by phase, slooooowwwly. As long as things are moving I'm happy n I can see e roads near Pandan side getting done up. Poor tax collection n money siphoned off could result in less spending on public projects.

It won't be even completed for the next 5 yrs for Pasir gudang highway expansion. We can track back this 5 yrs later. The talk about expansion confirmed not started later than more than 5 yrs ago.

Regardless whether Pandan that path will be expanded. Whether it resolves the current jam situation or not is also a big question mark. And not to forget there are tons of bottlenecks at Molek, mounts Austin, JJ, Gaya, desa cemerlang etc to go thru if one is living even further up.

For who have stayed in the area for long time with no choice but to suffer in the terrible jam in long run, however, for new investors or home buyers, frankly speaking, other than budget constraint, I do not see a reason to pick an area for living that is already terribly jam versus a new area that is not jam now but maybe jam but then it at most only happens 10yrs later. Good can turn bad, but at the same time, the current bad will turn worse or worst.

If one is going thru the path daily will understand what I meant. Situation will only get worse, because residents only keep increasing while existing roads etc stay the same.

Just my 2 cents. I am just stating truth. Pardon me if offended.

 

[RedsYNWA]

Pasir Gudang is really expanding but phase by phase, slooooowwwly. As long as things are moving I'm happy n I can see e roads near Pandan side getting done up. Poor tax collection n money siphoned off could result in less spending on public projects.

Pasir Gudang expansion is not easy wor..... Lots of overheads and it's really a long ride. I can understand the delay esp at the overhead sections.

 

[FHBH12]

It won't be even completed for the next 5 yrs for Pasir gudang highway expansion. We can track back this 5 yrs later. The talk about expansion confirmed not started later than more than 5 yrs ago.

Regardless whether Pandan that path will be expanded. Whether it resolves the current jam situation or not is also a big question mark. And not to forget there are tons of bottlenecks at Molek, mounts Austin, JJ, Gaya, desa cemerlang etc to go thru if one is living even further up.

For who have stayed in the area for long time with no choice but to suffer in the terrible jam in long run, however, for new investors or home buyers, frankly speaking, other than budget constraint, I do not see a reason to pick an area for living that is already terribly jam versus a new area that is not jam now but maybe jam but then it at most only happens 10yrs later. Good can turn bad, but at the same time, the current bad will turn worse or worst.

If one is going thru the path daily will understand what I meant. Situation will only get worse, because residents only keep increasing while existing roads etc stay the same.

Just my 2 cents. I am just stating truth. Pardon me if offended.

Upgrading had started since early last year. Phase 1 is probably half done, but slowed down near e bridges. You can drive there to see for yourself.

I like to see some jams as it is a sign of prosperity. If is not jammed, I worry.

 

[RedsYNWA]

Regardless whether Pandan that path will be expanded. Whether it resolves the current jam situation or not is also a big question mark. And not to forget there are tons of bottlenecks at Molek, mounts Austin, JJ, Gaya, desa cemerlang etc to go thru if one is living even further up.

Let's wait for the upgrading of Pandan Bridge (from Kota Tinggi to town) part to be completed first, before we assess the traffic situation again. There are actually long stretches along Tebrau Highway without traffic lights, from Jusco Tebrau all the way past EDL Pandan and Kampong Melayu flyover. I expect to see significant improvements, but for naysayers, lets wait and see first lor.