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MOE Is In Trouble

makapaaa

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Recently, MOE has seen a lot of older teachers retiring. These teachers form the core of the teachers as they are on pension scheme and cant leave whenever they like unlike the younger teachers who are under the full CPF scheme.
As the years go by, these pensionable teachers wil retire and there will be abad shortage of teachers in MOE.
MOE has come out with some schemes to attract back resigned teachers Hopefully these schemes will bring some relief for MOE. But these are reactive measures.
What MOE needs to do is to make teaching the core purpose of teachers and not load them with non teaching matters
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halsey02

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>What MOE needs to do is to make teaching the core purpose of teachers and not load them with non teaching matters>

Like gardening, doing photocopying work in the office, part-time traffic warden, security personnel, logistic officer..etc, other than TEACH!:biggrin:

How many of you, still do remember your teachers?. Me still so, you guys read Lat? (the comics), I have a Malay Chekgu, a Chinese female teacher looking like the characters in Lat. My Secondary school teacher look exactly like those old B&W movies, the 'jiat chee kua' (the corrupt official, with the white nose).

Anyway, I still have fond memories of my teachers, especially those who really gave their time, teaching, listening & being, 'one of us'.

CAn we safely say that, the teachers today are in the profession for the PAY?
 

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The older teachers who are retiring may be experience but may not be that good. I went to an english school during the 60s' but it was only in 1972 when i reach sec 4 that my form teacher mr. Peter tan could be bother to improve my english. He group those students weak in english and allow to progress at a lower pace. From then on, my english improve tremendously. If not for him, I would had fail my english and my o level.
Some of the teachers are still trap in a time warp using old pattern to teach new generations of students. They shall not be missed.
 

Microsoft

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Bery soon... MOE will be privatise... Typical papaya way of solving problem... And primary 1 screw fees per mth $1,200...
 

annexa

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When your people are leaving, maybe it might be the work. But if your good people are leaving in LARGE numbers, it points only to bad bosses.
 

zhihau

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The older teachers who are retiring may be experience but may not be that good. I went to an english school during the 60s' but it was only in 1972 when i reach sec 4 that my form teacher mr. Peter tan could be bother to improve my english. He group those students weak in english and allow to progress at a lower pace. From then on, my english improve tremendously. If not for him, I would had fail my english and my o level.
Some of the teachers are still trap in a time warp using old pattern to teach new generations of students. They shall not be missed.

heheh...

how big was the class size in those days?
 

madmansg

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good teachers are leaving cause they are overloaded with sai kang. This is the same reason why NS slaves are leaving sg by the thousands each year as they are overloaded with NS sai kang.

NS is killing Sg. May Ms lo burn in hell for eternity. Fake lawyer live it up while her fellow singaporeans being torture.
 

hemunkeong

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Bery soon... MOE will be privatise... Typical papaya way of solving problem... And primary 1 screw fees per mth $1,200...

Another typical response, is they start recruiting FT like what they have done
at the govt. hospitals and polyclinics. Soon you have FT from england to reach english, prc teaching chinese, indians teaching science and maths etc.
 

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Another typical response, is they start recruiting FT like what they have done
at the govt. hospitals and polyclinics. Soon you have FT from england to reach english, prc teaching chinese, indians teaching science and maths etc.

Better still... Indian teacher teach chinese... Chinese teacher teach indian... SG teacher... nothing left 2 teach... teach hokkien... cnot let the culture die mah... :biggrin::biggrin: Then all our kids speak yinglish with indian accent...Haizz :(:biggrin::p
 

Leegimeremover

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In spite of losing teachers, the fuckers up there will not admit and I understand there is a hiring freeze. Uniquely fucked Singapore.
 

R4g3

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now market is bad, alot will jump to teaching.

but being a teacher here is not just teaching, it is more of showing yourself. You can be a good teacher but you will not be a successful teacher.

You can be teaching very well and all your students give good results, but someone who cant teach can be promoted faster then you. Other then the usual balls carrying, they also look at what other activities and role you have taken up.

Like leading a choir which is trained by outsider while all you have to do is sit down there every week and take attendance. If your choir wins some award, you will get recognised and promoted much faster then alot of people.

I have a friend who is bad at teaching but very good at IT. Very often there is alot of mistakes in marking, unable to cover topics on time. But he was promoted he was 1 of the only few who is good at IT and he was promoted to a Vice Principal at a very young age.

So those who really want to teach might not be recognize in the first place, and the level of job satisfaction is much lower.
 

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Better still... Indian teacher teach chinese... Chinese teacher teach indian... SG teacher... nothing left 2 teach... teach hokkien... Then all our kids speak yinglish with indian accent...Haizz :(:biggrin::p
who teach yinglish? ... :confused:
 

miosux

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Another typical response, is they start recruiting FT like what they have done
at the govt. hospitals and polyclinics. Soon you have FT from england to reach english, prc teaching chinese, indians teaching science and maths etc.

FT from England to teach english? wait long long, more likely from Philippines. a fraction of the price.
 

eQuipment

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from ministry of edu, they will privatize it n call it agency of edu. after privatizing, they will launch their recruitment campaign in hiring FTs as teachers. they will hire native language speaking FTs to teach the different languages: angmo-english, PRC-mandarin, indo/m'sian-behasa, keleng-tamil/punjabi/hindi

then they also hire FT engineers to teach maths/ science, then they hire FT performing arts rejects to teach arts/ performing arts, then they hire FT sports rejects to teach PE & handle sports ECAs.
 

Leegimeremover

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from ministry of edu, they will privatize it n call it agency of edu. after privatizing, they will launch their recruitment campaign in hiring FTs as teachers. they will hire native language speaking FTs to teach the different languages: angmo-english, PRC-mandarin, indo/m'sian-behasa, keleng-tamil/punjabi/hindi

then they also hire FT engineers to teach maths/ science, then they hire FT performing arts rejects to teach arts/ performing arts, then they hire FT sports rejects to teach PE & handle sports ECAs.

The ultimate fuck in progress. They will so wildwest that PAP dogs will get assassinated and PAP will get voted out of power by foreign trash. Our next PM is likely to be a Kim Jong Il or Putin
 

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FTs will not have voting rights, but their 2nd generation will be voting for the imperialist family, they will bow to them & pray to them like gods.
 
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