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MINDEF blames deceased soldier instead of accepting responsibility
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PTADER you are disrupting the thread I am reading.
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You not happy put time and place and bring your Ah neh
mother and sister along. Shitskin.
Someone is upset. Hahahahaaaa ........ Noticed he wasnt in forum last night and strangely that kopi or meng bugger who desperately wanna to suck my cock. Both absent means what? Clones is it?
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http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2016/03/sdp-section-14-govt-proceedings-act-must-go/
SDP: Section 14 of the Govt Proceedings Act must go
March 9, 2016
The Singapore Democratic Party (SDP), in its latest statement penned by its Secretary-General, Dr Chee Soon Juan, calls upon the Singapore Government to remove Section 14 of the Government Proceedings Act (GPA).
The party states that this law unfairly protects the government from being held accountable and “makes no moral sense”.
The press statement by SDP in full
After having met with Dominique Lee’s mother at her request, the SDP is of the view that the case must be reviewed particularly in regards to the Government Proceedings Act (GPA).
According to media reports, the High Court ruled against Dominique’s family, citing Section 14 of the Act that “Nothing done or omitted to be done by a member of the forces while on duty as such shall subject either him or the Government to liability in tort for causing the death of another person, or for causing personal injury to another person, in so far as the death or personal injury is due to anything suffered by that other person while he is a member of the forces…”
The law makes no moral sense. It unfairly protects the government from being held accountable. When the State requires citizens to perform a duty, it cannot declare itself to be free of responsibility and accountability especially when those citizens’ are harmed as a result of its, or its officers’, negligence. This creates moral hazard.
In Dominique’s case, the family is seeking moral restitution. The government, not just the Singapore Armed Forces, has a duty to honour the sacrifice that the soldier has made and assuage the pain that his family has had to endure.
It is inexcusable for the PAP government to hide behind Section 14 of the GPA and absolve itself from its responsibilities over the incident.
Now that this law has come to the public’s attention, which parent would not be nervous about entrusting their sons to the Ministry of Defence knowing that if an incident similar to the one that robbed Dominique from his family were to occur, the PAP would invoke the GPA and not take responsibility? Which NS man will not feel aggrieved that the government is taking such an unjustified stance when he is called to risk his life in defence of this nation? What does this law do to the morale of our troops and, by extension, how will it jeopardise the national security of our country?
We. the citizens of Singapore, will defend our nation and, if need be, give our lives to protect it. But when we do, we would like to know that our government is there with us. And when our lives are taken, we want our government to shed that silent, compassionate tear and to comfort our loved ones and tell them that we did not die in vain.
But it is beyond demoralising when we see this Government take cover behind a law that it crafted to say that it cannot be held accountable if and when we are killed in the line of military duty.
We all know that in this imperfect world mistakes are made. Failures and accidents in the military are a fact of life. Singaporeans are not unreasonable to expect that the Government do everything perfectly.
But when things go wrong, we expect our leaders to – unprompted and without reluctance – step forward and take responsibility. They need to be forthright and transparent with their handling of the aftermath and dedicate themselves to ensuring that the incident does not happen again. In other words, to be accountable.
Dominique’s family cannot get him back no matter what it says and does. His mother has live to with her pain for the rest of her life like only a mother will. Is sorry such a hard word for the PAP to say to her?
For the sake of the nation, Section 14 of the GPA must go. A government that cannot feel compassion for its people cannot make good laws for good laws come from a caring heart, not just a calculative head. The least that our brave and loyal young men deserve is the highest standards of accountability from the government. Section 14 diminishes that accountability.
Chee Soon Juan
Secretary-General
Singapore Democratic Party
SDP: Section 14 of the Govt Proceedings Act must go
March 9, 2016
The Singapore Democratic Party (SDP), in its latest statement penned by its Secretary-General, Dr Chee Soon Juan, calls upon the Singapore Government to remove Section 14 of the Government Proceedings Act (GPA).
The party states that this law unfairly protects the government from being held accountable and “makes no moral sense”.
The press statement by SDP in full
After having met with Dominique Lee’s mother at her request, the SDP is of the view that the case must be reviewed particularly in regards to the Government Proceedings Act (GPA).
According to media reports, the High Court ruled against Dominique’s family, citing Section 14 of the Act that “Nothing done or omitted to be done by a member of the forces while on duty as such shall subject either him or the Government to liability in tort for causing the death of another person, or for causing personal injury to another person, in so far as the death or personal injury is due to anything suffered by that other person while he is a member of the forces…”
The law makes no moral sense. It unfairly protects the government from being held accountable. When the State requires citizens to perform a duty, it cannot declare itself to be free of responsibility and accountability especially when those citizens’ are harmed as a result of its, or its officers’, negligence. This creates moral hazard.
In Dominique’s case, the family is seeking moral restitution. The government, not just the Singapore Armed Forces, has a duty to honour the sacrifice that the soldier has made and assuage the pain that his family has had to endure.
It is inexcusable for the PAP government to hide behind Section 14 of the GPA and absolve itself from its responsibilities over the incident.
Now that this law has come to the public’s attention, which parent would not be nervous about entrusting their sons to the Ministry of Defence knowing that if an incident similar to the one that robbed Dominique from his family were to occur, the PAP would invoke the GPA and not take responsibility? Which NS man will not feel aggrieved that the government is taking such an unjustified stance when he is called to risk his life in defence of this nation? What does this law do to the morale of our troops and, by extension, how will it jeopardise the national security of our country?
We. the citizens of Singapore, will defend our nation and, if need be, give our lives to protect it. But when we do, we would like to know that our government is there with us. And when our lives are taken, we want our government to shed that silent, compassionate tear and to comfort our loved ones and tell them that we did not die in vain.
But it is beyond demoralising when we see this Government take cover behind a law that it crafted to say that it cannot be held accountable if and when we are killed in the line of military duty.
We all know that in this imperfect world mistakes are made. Failures and accidents in the military are a fact of life. Singaporeans are not unreasonable to expect that the Government do everything perfectly.
But when things go wrong, we expect our leaders to – unprompted and without reluctance – step forward and take responsibility. They need to be forthright and transparent with their handling of the aftermath and dedicate themselves to ensuring that the incident does not happen again. In other words, to be accountable.
Dominique’s family cannot get him back no matter what it says and does. His mother has live to with her pain for the rest of her life like only a mother will. Is sorry such a hard word for the PAP to say to her?
For the sake of the nation, Section 14 of the GPA must go. A government that cannot feel compassion for its people cannot make good laws for good laws come from a caring heart, not just a calculative head. The least that our brave and loyal young men deserve is the highest standards of accountability from the government. Section 14 diminishes that accountability.
Chee Soon Juan
Secretary-General
Singapore Democratic Party
well done, CSJ!
That's the crux of the problem, that those two were not charged due to the claim that the "acute allergic reaction to the smoke grenades thrown by the Platoon Commander was not reasonably foreseeable". " It's sheer common sense that the more intense the smoke, the more hazardous it will be, never mind whether one is allergic to zinc chloride. That's why a whole lot more of hay fever occur in spring when more pollen is released than in any season.
Wait for the next smokeout by the Indonesian and let's see whether the dumb coroner and general can or can't tell how safe or how hazardous it will be.
What's so "unusual" about the family seeking justice???? Who is so "stirring the pot"? They can't think for themselves and seek justice? It's called "seeking accountability", a concept that should not be too foreign to you or anyone else.
For fuck sake, get over your obsession with Chee. This happened more than 3 years ago in April 2012. You mean CSJ patiently waited for almost 4 years, squandered the opportunity to raise this issue last year during the Sep 2015 election only to now, in March 2016, gleefully pounce on it after the mother e-mailed him 3-4 days ago and requested to see him???
Are those "some quarters" residing in your head next going to claim that the mother's e-mail was crafted by CSJ???
Let's be honest. Does this fucking shit that you have posted make sense or is even logical to you?
This whole charade is getting really ridiculous. So there was a bit too much smoke and some asthmatic soldier who had tried to hide the severity of his condition kicked the bucket so what is the freakin' big deal????
People die for all sorts of reasons and life goes on and the world continues to revolve. Let's put this in perspective and realise that soldiers are at risk of dying no matter which army they serve. That's what soldiering is all about.
we should put this behind us and move on.
His papa is Island Club member, that's why MINDEF cares. Even President Tony cares in this case and intervene to get the second son downgraded to a non-combat vocation.
That what i have been saying all along. Officer knew what he was doing. TSR is simply a non-binding guideline to help young newly commissioned officer or nco judge the actions to be taken based on circumstances. Not about the officer at all.
MINDEAF lied and likes to keep things under wraps because ultimately the organization is regarded as the tortfeasor under the commoner law yes? Scholar general wants to save a few bucks by invoking an ancient clause section written to exempt the org from liabilities. Wrong move lah. Pantry free flow does not mean you can take and take without people noticing. A thing some people will never understand.
Better just do away with the section because you never know how silly some top brass can be until they open their mouths.
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Hasn't the family already done that and had their suit thrown out by the High Court????
The thick-skulled wasn't as thick-skulled when he applied to strike out the claim on the grounds that "there is no reasonable cause of action and that the suit is frivolous, vexatious and an abuse of the court process".
Does this seem even remotely repentant to you? Or is your definition of repentance one of people who have caused deaths through their own negligence waiving the legal cost awarded to them?
Safety regulation states 2 smoke grenade. Officer decided to use 6 smoke grenades ...that is 3X more. Let say ah, you are given 3X more radiation in your treatment, you die ...is the hospital wrong?
Second, he didn't hide his condition ...he is asthmatic and his record has it.
MINDEF can't see right from wrong, that's the problem.
We didn't volunteer for NS; we were forced into it. So, we expect better than to be treated like a pile of shit.
The famous PAP phrase.
You truly love your son, unlike many sinkees who do nothing while MINDEF treats them like shit.
If that is required to keep our soldiers safe during training, that is the right thing to do. There is NO need for death in training.
It is just forced slavery ...why should one die doing something that you didn't want to do?No wonder the army is a joke. Fucking sinkies are so scared of dying they shouldn't leave their homes.
ISIS is for the mercenaries to deal with.
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