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MINDEF blames deceased soldier instead of accepting responsibility

winnipegjets

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SAF responds to online debate on death of Private Dominique Sarron Lee

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SAF personnel can, in fact, be charged or punished in criminal courts for committing rash and negligent acts, even during the course of their military duties, the post said.

In a bid to address misconceptions after the High Court threw out a civil suit against the SAF brought by Private Dominique Sarron Lee's family, Brigadier-General Chan Wing Kai, commander of the army's Training and Doctrine Command, said: "The Attorney-General's Chambers (AGC), not the SAF, decides if the evidence warrants this course of action."

Pte Lee died in 2012 after an allergic reaction to smoke grenades during a military exercise.

After the High Court's decision last Thursday (March 3), Pte Lee's mother, Felicia Seah, put up a Facebook post which triggered an outpouring of sympathy from the public. She called for more to be done to press charges against the defendants.

BG Chan said a Committee of Inquiry (COI) on the case was held in 2012 and the Coroner's Inquiry (CI) in 2013.

The coroner found that Pte Lee had "died from acute allergic reaction to zinc chloride due to inhalation of zinc chloride fumes". The coroner also found that this acute allergic reaction was "unlikely to have been predicted".

BG Chan said that as Pte Lee's acute allergic reaction to the smoke grenades thrown by the platoon commander was not reasonably foreseeable, no criminal charges were brought against the two officers.

He also pointed out that the coroner had noted that Pte Lee "had under played and under declared his asthmatic condition".

The two officers involved in the military exercise that resulted in Pte Lee's death did not face criminal charges, but they were punished according to military law, after being found guilty of negligent performance of lawful order or duty in 2013, said BG Chan. However, SAF did not specify what the punishment was.

While Lee's family were ordered to pay the costs of the latest law suit, BG Chan said that prior to this, the family had taken out a preaction discovery application and then they subsequently withdrew it. The court had awarded costs to Mindef, but Mindef had waived the legal costs, he said.

BG Chan also said Mindef and the SAF have been "extending help to Pte Lee's family throughout this period, and remain committed to assisting and providing support to the family".

"Since the incident, welfare grants have been disbursed, and an offer of compensation has been made to the family, based on the full extent allowed by the compensation legislation," he said.

While the compensation amounts were not disclosed, BG Chan said they are "generally two to four times that of amounts provided under the Work Injury Compensation Act for incidents arising from training and operations".

"Once again, the SAF offers our sincere condolences to the family of PTE Lee. The SAF values the life of every soldier and recognises that we are responsible for the sons of Singapore placed under our charge," said BG Chan.

"We will uphold safety standards while ensuring that we build a strong National Service force able to defend Singapore," he added
 

winnipegjets

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MINDEF Taichi in action ....

It is AGC that doesn't want to prosecute
rigadier-General Chan Wing Kai, commander of the army's Training and Doctrine Command, said: "The Attorney-General's Chambers (AGC), not the SAF, decides if the evidence warrants this course of action."

It is the soldier that screwed up ....
He also pointed out that the coroner had noted that Pte Lee "had under played and under declared his asthmatic condition".

But he did not address the main issues:

That excessive use of smoke grenade contributed to the death ...the soldier may not have been affected if the use of smoke grenade was limited;

That MINDEF has no contractual obligation to ensure the safety of soldiers.
 

JohnTan

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The dead idiot brought about his own demise by underplaying his asthma condition. No doubt he was hoping he could suck his sergeants' balls by becoming the top ten recruits in BMT, and then earn himself a spot at the prestigious OCS or at least go to SISPEC.
 

kryonlight

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Yes, Dom's parents are too cheapskate to fork out the money for a specialist's letter. You can easily downgrade to C9L2 with the correct letter from the correct professor from the correct hospital. Don't ever kay kiang in SAF. Keng and downgrade if you are eligible, especially for asthmatics.

SAF officers cannot be held responsible if you want to be the hero.
 

halsey02

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"He also pointed out that the coroner had noted that Pte Lee "had under played and under declared his asthmatic condition"."

In other words the SAF doctors are _____________ ( fill in the blanks).....we all deserve it, we get what we voted for....he died for serving us (sic!).....NS IS KILLING SINGAPORE(ans)...

We deserve this.....
 

winnipegjets

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The dead idiot brought about his own demise by underplaying his asthma condition. No doubt he was hoping he could suck his sergeants' balls by becoming the top ten recruits in BMT, and then earn himself a spot at the prestigious OCS or at least go to SISPEC.

If they didn't use that many smoke grenade, he may not die. Don't blame the victim. It is those people who violated the safety regulation that should be held accountable.

More importantly, this incident has highlighted the fact that MINDEF does give a damn about the safety of our soldiers. If our soldier die due to negligence, MINDEF just washes its hand. It has NO contractual obligation to ensure the safety of soldiers.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Notice that the deceased is a chinese and the killer is a fucking m&d and while in the scdf a useless m&d killed himself and blamed a chinese enciek. in Sg it's like this. It's the race/social standing of the person. Just change the deceased to a m&d or a shit skin soldier and the sgt who threw the smoke grenades to a chinese and the outcome will be different.

Now a chinese nsf is dead and it's no big deal while when a m&d or a shit skin nsf dies it's a big deal especially when the blame falls on a chinese. This is fucking ridiculous.
 

GoldenDragon

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Notice that the deceased is a chinese and the killer is a fucking m&d and while in the scdf a useless m&d killed himself and blamed a chinese enciek. in Sg it's like this. It's the race/social standing of the person. Just change the deceased to a m&d or a shit skin soldier and the sgt who threw the smoke grenades to a chinese and the outcome will be different.

Now a chinese nsf is dead and it's no big deal while when a m&d or a shit skin nsf dies it's a big deal especially when the blame falls on a chinese. This is fucking ridiculous.

please consult Dr Brian Yeo Kah Loke.
 

winnipegjets

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Alamak, fight spew over to this thread too?

Can declare this thread (issue) no fight zone?

This thread is to wallop MINDEF. Direct your energy to join the cause?
 

shittypore

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Its all abt how much did MID payout for his death? The workman's Com for workers i tink was written when Teachers were drawing 280 to 600 pm. Wonder is MID using the National Workmans Com to make payouts?
 

winnipegjets

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Its all abt how much did MID payout for his death? The workman's Com for workers i tink was written when Teachers were drawing 280 to 600 pm. Wonder is MID using the National Workmans Com to make payouts?

His death is so unnecessary. There was negligence and MINDEF doesn't give a damn, using the AGC to cover its back.

The kangaroo judge was definitely siding with the government. His decision was groundless, IMHO. MINDEF had no contractual obligation is pure bs.

In response to that decision, there should be a boycott of NS and reservists until the government unequivocally state that the MINDEF is contractually obligated to protect all soldiers from harm.
 
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