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MarlboroTan to home seekers - Stop the Kow Peh Kow Bu!

vincenttan

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Just stay in the house you are allocated!

NATIONAL Development Minister Mah Bow Tan has refuted claims by some first-time buyers that they could not get an HDB flat despite repeated applications.

Mr Mah said yesterday that some of the assertions that have appeared in media reports recently were 'not entirely truthful'.( You bunch of liers!)

Home seekers had claimed that they were unsuccessful despite making several applications, while one hopeful said he lodged 18 attempts but still did not secure a home.

But Mr Mah said: 'What is actually happening, is not a matter of buyers getting a flat, it's a matter of them getting it and not selecting it for one reason or another.' (I thought Government encourage us to stay near parents?)

HDB figures yesterday showed that eight in 10 first-timers could get a flat on their first try if they were not choosy; the success rate was 96 per cent for the second try.

This is under the build-to-order (BTO) scheme, the HDB's main supply of new flats. Projects get built when a certain demand is reached and flats typically take three to four years to be built.

'If you look at this, you'll know that the supply of new flats under the BTO programme is more than adequate, that is an assurance that I want to give to younger couples setting up homes for the first time,' said Mr Mah.

'Don't worry, there are flats available for you, in different parts of Singapore at prices that are affordable. But we need to impress upon flat buyers that you may not get the dream flat of your choice the first time, but you have to make the decisions, and consider the trade-offs.'

This could mean living in a more affordable home but further away from the city, he said.

One of the media reports that prompted Mr Mah to speak out featured Mr Soh Say Kiat, who said he and his wife had applied 18 times since 2001 but did not get a flat.

The HDB said yesterday that its records, which started from 2002, showed that the couple made 12 applications and were offered flats three times but did not take any.

In another instance, Mr Jayce Ng and his wife told The Sunday Times that they applied at least eight times but were offered only one unit, which they turned down.

The HDB said records showed the couple were offered a flat seven times but did not select any.

Mr Ng, 30, however, pointed out that buyers who reject flats could have been offered leftovers with undesirable attributes.

'You can't blame me for having high expectations and not wanting to live on the second floor when I'll be living there for the next 10 years - and this is a lifelong investment,' he told The Straits Times.

The prospect of living on the second floor also proved a deal breaker for Mr Soh, who gave up the chance to book flats when he found out what level they were on.

'I don't want to be forced to get a flat I don't want,' he said.

The HDB data yesterday showed that even when applicants have the entire block of flats to choose from, three in 10 buyers still reject units.

In February's launch of Champions Court in Woodlands, the rejection rate on the first day of selection was 24 per cent. The rate was 36 per cent for Fernvale Crest in Sengkang launched in June.

The rejection rate for BTO projects by first-timers was as high as 67 per cent in 2007 - meaning almost seven in 10 applicants rejected any flats offered to them.

This figure has since come down to about 52 per cent after the HDB introduced new rules in May last year to penalise non-serious buyers by removing their first-timer priorities.

Mr Mah acknowledged yesterday that three to four years might be a long wait for some young couples but noted the best way to cut short the waiting time was to plan ahead.

Couples can book a flat under HDB's Fiance/Fiancee Scheme, which lets them join the flat queue early - before they get married, he said.

Mr Mah was speaking to the media after chatting to buyers at the sales counters at the HDB Hub in Toa Payoh.

One home buyer the minister spoke to, Ms Lim Yu Fang, 22, signed up yesterday for a five-room flat at a Punggol BTO project which cost $331,000.

'Although the wait is long, we still went ahead because it's more affordable compared to resale flats,' said Ms Lim.
 

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Mr Mah acknowledged yesterday that three to four years might be a long wait for some young couples but noted the best way to cut short the waiting time was to plan ahead.

Couples can book a flat under HDB's Fiance/Fiancee Scheme, which lets them join the flat queue early - before they get married, he said.

What Shorty Mah is trying to say is if your spouse commit adultery, dont divorce just for the sake of the flat as you've waited long enough!!!!! Bear with it!!!! Or commit adultery to spite your other half & get the satisfaction at the same time!!!!!
 

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Mr Mah acknowledged yesterday that three to four years might be a long wait for some young couples but noted the best way to cut short the waiting time was to plan ahead.

Couples can book a flat under HDB's Fiance/Fiancee Scheme, which lets them join the flat queue early - before they get married, he said.

You see, my dear Sporn fucks, marriage is like a cruise ship schedule. Both have to be planned years in advance.
 

Sperminator

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You see, my dear Sporn fucks, marriage is like a cruise ship schedule. Both have to be planned years in advance.

Yup, in Singapore, you got to plan your marriage, your HDB purchase, your baby, your career, everything you got to plan years ahead, and everything have to be fixed in Singapore...

You don't plan, you don't get... then how about those FTs, PRs, and newbie SGP? KNN

Life is like on a boat!

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This is for Marlboro Tan to take a good look, we Singaporeans can take very good care of our life, thank you very much, and he should live in HDB for a while, and use the MRT, and take SBS BUSES to really know what is happening in the ground of Singapore, rather than just thinking and talking cock in the media...
 

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This demonstrates yet again that those multi-billionaire Familee dog ministars have 0 feel what it means for the Peasants to commit an life debt to a lan cheow bee hive. Of course, they would want to make sure they get a place that meets their needs. How could you possibly stuff an overpriced but still lan cheow bee hive at them and expect they stomach it?
 

makapaaa

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The HDB said yesterday that its records, which started from 2002, showed that the couple made 12 applications and were offered flats three times but did not take any.

=> So is 3/12 = 25% success rate an enviable figure for the BEST PAID govt in the world? Not forgetting that New Shitizens with 0 NS liability are allowed to join in the fray with the same priority?
 

makapaaa

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The HDB data yesterday showed that even when applicants have the entire block of flats to choose from, three in 10 buyers still reject units.

=> Instead of shoving everything down the throat of Sporns at overpriced levels like what they have been doing for the last 50 years, have the BEST PAID govt asked themselves why these fcuked up bee hives have been rejected? Why do they always blame the people instead of reflecting on their fcuked up performance?
 

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The HDB data yesterday showed that even when applicants have the entire block of flats to choose from, three in 10 buyers still reject units.

=> Instead of shoving everything down the throat of Sporns at overpriced levels like what they have been doing for the last 50 years, have the BEST PAID govt asked themselves why these fcuked up bee hives have been rejected? Why do they always blame the people instead of reflecting on their fcuked up performance?

I can really understand why 3 in 10 buyers reject units.

Very simple, bad view, 2nd floor, or maybe 3 to 4 floor, 13 floor blocked by opposite block's water pump (block fengshui, bad luck)...

lousy unit number... say with numbers like #11-444, #14-444, you get the picture...

and only 30% rejection rate, what the fuck that Marlboro Tan is talking about???

those 30% rejection rate should first be given to the other Singaporeans + NS to see whether they want first, if they don't then pass it to the Newbie Singaporeans, and when they don't want then go to the PRs, and when the PRs don't want then it's truly the problem of the HDB....

it's not say buying a TV, and if don't like buy another TV... but this is buying an apartment, a small beehive (but I must say, Singaporeans beehive is still bigger than HongKongers') and well, you have to stay there for 10s of years!
 

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From the video still alone to begin with the man on the extreme left looks very much like Bruce Lee, albeit a whiter one haha.
 

SamuelStalin

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This is for Marlboro Tan to take a good look, we Singaporeans can take very good care of our life, thank you very much, and he should live in HDB for a while, and use the MRT, and take SBS BUSES to really know what is happening in the ground of Singapore, rather than just thinking and talking cock in the media...

You are asking someone from the parliament peerage to insult himself by living in a humble dwelling with the commoners and using wagons like them as opposed to a horse-drawn carriage. Are you crazy??? :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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I am puzzled. Why is the million-dollar gahmen, the PAPpy minitoots and the HDB represented by Marbrosky putting the blame on the Sinkie peasants? It is the gahmen's fault for trying to sell product that the consumers do not want!! It's as simple as that.

If the consumers (the Sinkie peasants) do not want something that the gahmen is selling, it means that the consumer is right in refusing to accept it. Therefore it is the sellers fault and they have to fix the situation by making the appropriate changes, such as selling the unpopular items at a discount, and making improvements to the product.
 

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FUCK YOU MBT. Put yourself in the shoes of those people who got some 2nd-floor flat, or some flat far out in a corner of sinkapoor, or next to some noisy place, and see if you want to take the flat. I bet when you chose your own house, you were even more picky and settled only for a prime of prime districts.

This is the only modern govt in the world who has the audacity to pooh-pooh people's complaints. In a developed country there'll be huge demonstrations and the MBT joker would have been forced to leave the cuntry! We're talking about housing here, a basic good, not some luxury product you can choose not to buy!
 

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the HDB was created to bring cheap and affordable housing for sinkies.
it has been a total scam and total failure, now it is use by speculator to make money.
 

SamuelStalin

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the HDB was created to bring cheap and affordable housing for sinkies.
it has been a total scam and total failure, now it is use by speculator to make money.

How do you do my dear condo kid? Your knowledge of bread seemed incredible despite dieting on ordinary cakes all your life haha.
 

SamuelStalin

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FUCK YOU MBT. Put yourself in the shoes of those people who got some 2nd-floor flat, or some flat far out in a corner of sinkapoor, or next to some noisy place, and see if you want to take the flat. I bet when you chose your own house, you were even more picky and settled only for a prime of prime districts.

This is the only modern govt in the world who has the audacity to pooh-pooh people's complaints. In a developed country there'll be huge demonstrations and the MBT joker would have been forced to leave the cuntry! We're talking about housing here, a basic good, not some luxury product you can choose not to buy!

Not sure about what you mean, but a friend said this: "Beggars can't be choosers."

PS I used it on him on a later occasion too heh heh
 
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