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Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatment

Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

Anyone who claims to be able to heal using methods that cannot stand up to the scrutiny of double blind testing and peer review is known as a FRAUD.

TCM is a fraud?

now we know who else has been going to handjob shops for TCM treatments... :rolleyes:
 
Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

The term "cupping" should only be used for tits or balls.
 
Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

There's no such thing as a "real" TCM practitioner. Anyone who claims to be able to heal using methods that cannot stand up to the scrutiny of double blind testing and peer review is known as a FRAUD.

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Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

Chi, C. (1994). Integrating traditional medicine into modern health care systems: Examining the role of Chinese medicine in Taiwan. Social Science & Medicine, 39(3), 307–321. doi:10.1016/0277-9536(94)90127-9

I've seen tons of papers trying to legitimise TCM otherwise known as Chinese Voodoo magic. None of them show any conclusive evidence beyond the placebo effect.:rolleyes:

The next time you break a leg, try TCM.

If you catch Syphilis, try TCM.

If your heart valves crap out, try TCM.

If get a hernia, try TCM.
 
Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

I've seen tons of papers trying to legitimise TCM otherwise known as Chinese Voodoo magic. None of them show any conclusive evidence beyond the placebo effect.:rolleyes:
The next time you break a leg, try TCM.
If you catch Syphilis, try TCM.
If your heart valves crap out, try TCM.
If get a hernia, try TCM.

Ah, thanks for revealing the truth. It is not "scrutiny of double blind testing and peer review" that you are really seeking...

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Anyway, similarly, there are people who:
The next time you break a leg, try panadol.
If you catch Syphilis, try panadol.
If your heart valves crap out, try panadol.
If get a hernia, try panadol.

and yet others who:
The next time you break a leg, try self-healing.
If you catch Syphilis, try self-healing.
If your heart valves crap out, try self-healing.
If get a hernia, try self-healing.

and yet others who:
The next time you break a leg, try prayers.
If you catch Syphilis, try prayers.
If your heart valves crap out, try prayers.
If get a hernia, try prayers.
 
Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

I've seen tons of papers trying to legitimise TCM otherwise known as Chinese Voodoo magic. None of them show any conclusive evidence beyond the placebo effect.:rolleyes:

The next time you break a leg, try TCM.

If you catch Syphilis, try TCM.

If your heart valves crap out, try TCM.

If get a hernia, try TCM.

These types TCM can't help. For common ailments like cold, flu, fever, etc, TCM really helps.
I grew up mostly with TCM and little western medicine. Same for my kiddos. Works all the time.
Try it!
 
Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme


Some will try but for others, eg. Muslim, it's like asking them to eat pork.

To each his own.
 
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Yes, untrained TCM practitioners can kill by their bullshit.
 
Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

These types TCM can't help. For common ailments like cold, flu, fever, etc, TCM really helps.
I grew up mostly with TCM and little western medicine. Same for my kiddos. Works all the time.
Try it!

For cold, flu and fever, I do nothing and simply carry on with life. Guess what...no treatment at all works fine too. Within 48 hours, I'm on the mend. :rolleyes:

This is how TCM manages to con so many people. It concentrates on curing people of ailments that get better on their own in the first place.
 
Re: Man kenna 2nd deg burns after going to Fu Lu Shou "health center" for TCM treatme

For cold, flu and fever, I do nothing and simply carry on with life. Guess what...no treatment at all works fine too. Within 48 hours, I'm on the mend.

Self-healing works for you. Rejoice.

Flu symptoms usually begins quickly. Symptoms appear 1 - 7 days after you come in contact with the virus. They usually hit within 2 - 3 days.

The flu spreads easily. It often strikes a community all at once. Students or workers become sick within 2 or 3 weeks of the flu's arrival in a school or workplace.

The first symptom is a fever between 102 and 106 °F. An adult usually has a lower fever than a child.

Other common symptoms include:

  • Body aches
  • Chills
  • Dizziness
  • Flushed face
  • Headache
  • Lack of energy
  • Nausea and vomiting

Between day 2 and day 4 of the illness, the fever and aches and pains begin to go away. But new symptoms occur, including:

  • Dry cough
  • Increased breathing symptoms
  • Runny nose (clear and watery)
  • Sneezing
  • Sore throat

These symptoms (except the cough) usually go away in
4 - 7 days. Sometimes, the fever returns. The cough and feeling tired may last for weeks.

Some people may not feel like eating.

The flu can make asthma, breathing problems, and other long-term illnesses worse.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000080.htm
 
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