MALAYSIAN Airlines flight en route to China is missing.

[Talking Donkey]

Lastest news,oil slick and debris spotted south chin sea near vietnam.

priest prease cause of crash not cause by mat pilot succide,mat sleeping/jihad/anwar/alanthuyar's spirit/154th/air missile/
terrorist/k shamu/fatty kim...etc....
i suspect cause of crash could be wardrobe malfunction..something like tail came off at 30000ft.

 

[johnny333]

Could have been faster, by Ultraman could not come, for they had banned him for using the "A' word..."Anwar" lah..what were you thinking?

They should have sent Marine Boy since it's a crash at sea

[video=youtube;5WPM0_X3xz0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WPM0_X3xz0[/video]

 

[Papsmearer]

My post was around 4 hours later than yours when the Viets had practically confirmed that the airplane ditched.

I guarantee you ac did not ditch. If the pilots managed to ditch the aircraft, they would have had time to send a distress call. The Viets were just confirming 4 hours after what I already knew to be true.

 

[Papsmearer]

Yes very strange situation.

The flight is in early morning which is total darkness. Probably some error in the instrumentation and pilot trusted the reading with plane flying off course. Remember saw a similar case but visibility was better and pilot was able to send out distress signal when he saw the mountain.

It has been quite sometime already. If wreckage is in the sea, it will be easier to spot. If in mountain and totally off course, then locating it will be very difficult.

What BS is this? There is no way the plane was flying off course. They have GPS on board, plus multiple compasses, plus they can always call up air traffic control if they thought they were off course. It might be a case of vertigo, but the pilot is experienced and usually by this stage of the flight, the computer is flying the plane on auto pilot. The pilots are not even touching the control column, they are just monitoring the instruments.

 

[sadshishamo]

You are right if it were a planned ditching. I was using the term more generally in the sense that they ended up in the sea. It looks to be that something happened so suddenly that the pilots had no time to make any call before being incapacitated.

I guarantee you ac did not ditch. If the pilots managed to ditch the aircraft, they would have had time to send a distress call. The Viets were just confirming 4 hours after what I already knew to be true.

 

[Papsmearer]

Most probably fuel tank exploded. That why no time to have distress call. Is matter of just few sec for the plan to blow out.

Its not easy for the fuel tank to blow like that. The 777 has no history of fuel tank explosions, unlike the 747.

I think its some sort of an explosive decompression, but caused by what? If they are already one hour into the flight, they would have been on autopilot long ago. The plane's computer was flying the ac by now. Something happened so suddenly that the auto pilot disengaged, and the pilots had no time to recover the plane.

If it was a pressurization issue, than all the passengers and the pilot would have unconscious due to lack of oxygen, but the autopilot would still be able to fly the plane until it ran out of fuel. Could be an act of terrorism, but not likely either as the group would have claimed responsibility by now. Maybe there was a patch of bad weather and the pilots decided to turn off the autopilot to fly over or around it, and somehow got vertigo because over the sea at night with no reference points. Than ended up stalling the plane and flying it into the sea.

 

[Sideswipe]

You are right if it were a planned ditching. I was using the term more generally in the sense that they ended up in the sea. It looks to be that something happened so suddenly that the pilots had no time to make any call before being incapacitated.

a very sudden explosion with no prior warning that destroyed the plane very quickly ? is that likely ?

 

[sochi2014]

Super Lousy Crisis Management by MAS.


Angry Chinese want information on missing Malaysia Airlines flight
5:35am EST

By Natalie Thomas

BEIJING (Reuters) - Chinese relatives of passengers on a Malaysia Airlines flight missing between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing on Saturday angrily accused the airline of keeping them in the dark, while state media criticized the carrier's poor response.

Relatives were taken to a hotel near Beijing airport, put in a room and told to wait for information from the airline, but none came. Malaysia Airlines said at least 152 of the 227 passengers on flight MH370 were Chinese.

About 20 people stormed out of the room at one point, enraged they had been given no information.

"There's no one from the company here, we can't find a single person. They've just shut us in this room and told us to wait," said one middle-aged man, who declined to give his name.

"We want someone to show their face. They haven't even given us the passenger list," he said.

Another relative, trying to evade a throng of reporters, muttered: "They're treating us worse than dogs."

Amid chaotic scenes, an unidentified Malaysia Airlines official spoke to reporters for just a few minutes without taking questions before leaving.

"We are working with authorities who have activated the search and rescue teams," the official said. "Our thoughts and prayers are deeply with the affected passengers and their family members."

Adding to the confusion, the official mentioned a rumor that the Chinese government has already denied - that the aircraft had landed in the southern Chinese city of Nanning.

"There has been speculation that the aircraft has landed in Nanning. We are working to verify the authenticity of the report of others," the official said.

Some Chinese media reported that he meant a place in Vietnam called Nanming. It was unclear exactly what he was talking about.

Chinese media outlets took to their official Weibo microblogs to criticize the airline for taking so long to announce what was going on and for refusing to answer questions.

"Malaysia Airlines, why did you wait for five hours after losing contact with the aircraft to first announce the news, and why did you only have a news conference after almost 13 hours?" the official Xinhua news agency wrote on one of its Weibo accounts.

Sanved Kolekar, an Indian working in Beijing, stood stunned at the airport where he was waiting for his parents who were coming over on a visit.

"My parents are on the flight, they were supposed to come here at 6.30, I don't know what happened," he said. "They haven't given me any information, it's very difficult because I don't understand the local language."

Malaysia Airlines told passengers' next of kin to come to Kuala Lumpur's international airport with their passports to prepare to fly to the crash site, which has still not been identified.

About 20-30 families were being kept in a holding room at the airport, where they were being guarded by security officials and kept away from reporters.

Malaysia Airlines said people from at least 14 nationalities were among the 227 passengers.

Chinese media said at least 24 artists and their family members were aboard, returning from an art exchange forum, including a well-known calligrapher.

At least two names on a passenger list released by Beijing police appeared to have been redacted, with the names pixillated out, leading to online speculation that they could have been ethnic Uighurs, a Muslim people from the restive far western Chinese region of Xinjiang.

The government has not confirmed this, and it was not possible to reach Beijing police for comment.

(Additional reporting by Joseph Campbell, and Stuart Grudgings in KUALA LUMPUR; Writing by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Nick Macfie)

 

[sochi2014]

Die Lah!! MAS 777 has problems they still wanna fly...

Flight Operations At KLIA Run As Usual - MAS CEO
SEPANG, March 8 (Bernama) -- The disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 early this morning does not affect flight operations at the KL International Airport (KLIA).

MAS group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said all services at the airport were running as usual and there were no cancellations of flight schedule.

However, he said the MAS management had provided space at the Observation Tower on level five, KLIA to gather all family members of the passengers involved to inform them of the latest development on the incident.

As at 3pm Saturday, 80 per cent of of the family members of the passengers had been briefed by MAS on the latest development concerning the missing aircraft which had raised various speculations.

"All operations are running as usual. On level five, KLIA (Observation Tower) we provide a team to gather and provide the latest information to family members of the passengers," he said at a media conference, here today which was also attended by acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein.

A Bernama survey at the KLIA found that the arrivals and departures of passengers to their respective destinations were running as usual.

The MH370 flight which carried 239 people, comprising 227 passengers including two infants and 12 crew members, was reported missing from the airspace between Malaysia and Vietnem over the South China Sea and the search and rescue operations were still going on.

The aircraft was last detected at 1.30am today at longitude 065515 north and 1033443 east over the South China Sea.

Earlier, Hishammuddin said the Royal Malaysian Air Force and Royal Malaysian Navy had been mobilised to the area where the incident occurred and they were joined by the relevant agencies from China, the Philippines, Vietnam and Indonesia.

The public could contact the telephone number 03-78841234 while the media could direct their enquiries by calling 03-8775698 or 03-87871276 or surf the MAS website at www.malaysiaairlines.com.

-- BERNAMA

 

[Papsmearer]

Every airline has a manual to deal with a crash of one of their planes, and MAS is really dropping the ball. They have already made many mistakes with regards to their handling of the media, passenger relatives, etc. Its turning into a PR disaster for them.

 

[sochi2014]

Difference between missile strikes and bomb explosion..

[video=youtube;kCW0Hqlc7vk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCW0Hqlc7vk[/video]

 

[sochi2014]

Matland damn jialat, the crash site is so near Matland, they still haven't found it?

Or complete news blackout by the Mat garmen?



Aviation expert and editor of airlineratings.com Geoffrey Thomas told the paper's owner Fairfax Media that he suspected the plane was involved in a "sudden catastrophic explosion" because no mayday call or other warning was made.

Die!! Could have been a bomb on the plane. Have to retrieve the aircraft pieces to confirm it. I wonder who did it? Najib the Mongolian bomber to divert attention?

He has a track record of bombing civilians!

 

[Papsmearer]

Have been reading a lot from the aviation forums and have a couple of questions.
1) This aircraft was involved in an accident in Shanghai where the wing tip was damaged (rip off as I recall). With poor maintenance, could this have been a contributory factor?
2) The aircraft lost radar contact at cruising altitude with no mention of a distress call being made by either pilot. Is this not really odd?
Statistically, most incidents happen during taxiing, take-off and landing but this happened two hours into the flight and presumably on auto-pilot.

Hoping for the best but unfortunately preparing for the worst...

Answer to # 1:
NOt really, all repairs to the wing tip would have been supervised by reps from the Boeing factory and the repairs would have been made to spec. Also, the ac operated for several years after the repairs with no apparent problem. Even if the ac had lost a wing because of this damage, to spiral down from 36000 ft takes several minutes and you would think the pilots would have have gotten at least a partial distress call out.

 

[sochi2014]

Last known location from airline tracking service.

 

[sleaguepunter]

Every airline has a manual to deal with a crash of one of their planes, and MAS is really dropping the ball. They have already made many mistakes with regards to their handling of the media, passenger relatives, etc. Its turning into a PR disaster for them.

Matland coast guards or navy don't have relevant aircrafts to do SAR operation? Knn, they have F18 station at Kota bahru, cannot use these naval aircraft to search for wreckage?

 

[Papsmearer]

I have little faith in Malay pilots.

This is a list of all Chinese pilots from Taiwan who have crashed their planes. The list of Chinese pilots from PRC crashing their planes is even longer. Kindly produce a list of Malay pilots who have crashed their planes that is as long as this one. Otherwise, ur attitude is the typical fucked singapore attitude, despite u being in Winterpeg. I would have thought living in canada thought you something.

08.12.1970 China Airlines NAMC YS-11 14:31
Taipei, Taiwan B-156
11.21.1971 China Airlines Sud Aviation SE210 Caravelle 25:25
Penghu, Taiwan B-1852
02.27.1980 China Airlines Boeing 707-309C 2:135
Manila, Philippines B-1826
02.16.1986 China Airlines Boeing 737-218 13:13
Makung, Taiwan B-1870
10.26.1989 China Airlines Boeing 737-209 54:54
Hualein, China B-180
12.29.1991 China Airlines Boeing 747-2R7F 5:5
Wanli, Taiwan B-198
11.04.1993 China Airlines Boeing 747-409 0:396
Hong Kong, China B-165
04.26.1994 China Airlines Airbus A300B4-622R 264:271
Nagoya, Japan B-1816
02.16.1998 China Airlines Airbus A300-622R 196:196
Taipei, Taiwan B-1814
08.22.1999 China Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-11 3:315
Hong Kong, China B-150
05.25.2002 China Airlines Boeing 747-209B 225:225
Taiwan Strait - off Penghu, Taiwan B-18255

 

[sochi2014]

Getting closer now..

Vietnam spots oil slicks in hunt for missing jet

Saturday - 3/8/2014, 7:52am ET
In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, reporters crowd at Terminal 3 of Beijing Capital International Airport in Beijing, China Saturday, March 8, 2014 following a report that a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 lost contact on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Luo Xiaoguang) NO SALES

CHRIS BRUMMITT
Associated Press

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) -- Vietnamese air force planes have spotted two large oil slicks that authorities suspect are from a Malaysian jetliner that went missing early Saturday.

A Vietnamese government statement says the slicks were spotted off the southern tip of Vietnam. The slicks were each between 10 kilometers (6 miles) and 15 kilometers (9 miles) long.

The statement said the slicks were consistent with the kinds that would be left by fuel from a crashed jetliner.

The Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 disappeared from radar screens with 239 people on board en route to Beijing.

Copyright 2014 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

 

[Papsmearer]

Matland coast guards or navy don't have relevant aircrafts to do SAR operation? Knn, they have F18 station at Kota bahru, cannot use these naval aircraft to search for wreckage?

Of course they have SAR planes, but the sea is very big. Its not that easy to locate a debris field, especially if its raining or what not. At this stage, its not really SAR anymore, more like body recovery and wreckage recovery.

 

[sleaguepunter]

During the 80/90s, the most dangerous airlines are the china airline follow by the south korea airline.

 

[Papsmearer]

I think also if there was a fiery explosion in mid air, causing the plane to crash, the fireball at night would have been seen by passing ships. They were not too far from land and that area is a busy shipping lane. However, there is no reports that any ships saw or heard fiery wreckage raining down into the sea. I am thinking this is not a bombing.