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Mahathir : Johor is dependent on Singapore for its success. Hence we have helped Singapore expand using our Malaysian land (Johor)

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Mahathir also commented on the islands south of Singapore, including Riau Islands, Batam and Bintan.

He claimed that the Johor Empire owned these islands initially, before becoming part of the Dutch East Indies.

These islands then became a part of Indonesia after independence. He further claimed that Malaysia had never demanded the return of these islands from Indonesia.


https://mothership.sg/2021/10/mahathir-johor-singapore-hinterland/
 

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If he wants to go there then the indons will also have a legitimate claim to Sarawak and Sabah. Both were carved out by the colonial powers as British Borneo and became a sore point for Indonesia under president Sukarno.
 

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If he wants to go there then the indons will also have a legitimate claim to Sarawak and Sabah. Both were carved out by the colonial powers as British Borneo and became a sore point for Indonesia under president Sukarno.
This old man never learn to keep his mouth shut. He should have join our LKY for debate long time ago
 

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This old man never learn to keep his mouth shut. He should have join our LKY for debate long time ago
It's a tit for tat by Mahathir after Johor Sultan recently mentioned about Langkawi. All this due to the lost of Pedra Branca that the fat Sultan is still feeling sore about. Wily Mahathir has many tricks up his sleeve to irritate the Johor Royal Family. Love him or hate him, only Mahathir has the balls to piss off the Johor Sultan and put him in his place. Even Anwar fears antagonising the Fat Hippo Sultan and his upstart crown Prince son.
 

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These islands then became a part of Indonesia after independence. He further claimed that Malaysia had never demanded the return of these islands from Indonesia.

What's the purpose of a non-statement like "never demanded the return of these islands"? The mad hatter is still stirring shit at his age.
 

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It's a veiled attack on the Johore sultan .. The crafty ah neh snake in him will never stop spitting venom
If you were to compare achievements and self enrichment, the Johor setan...oops..sultan is nowhere near the old man's stature.
Born with a silver spoon, and into one of the richest state, he basically did not do anything except to enrich himself. The only thing he can do is bullying and encroach upon other's business venture and that also only in his state.
Outside his state the other sultans mock his as a boy scout because his ancestors stole the throne and he has not an ounce or royalty. In fact it's all tainted by European genes.
 

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Recently Kedah state government demanded Penang pay them RM100 million annually. Stupid reason by them was that Penang was leased by the then Sultan of Kedah to the British many many moons ago. Of course Penang gave them the middle finger. If all one to claim their past lands and territories, maybe Thailand can also lay claim to all of the northern Matland states that used to be under their rule.
 

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If all one to claim their past lands and territories, maybe Thailand can also lay claim to all of the northern Matland states that used to be under their rule.
The former southern Thai/northern Malaysia territories were ceded to Malaysia because the Thais collaborated with the Japs during ww2 .. they allowed the Japs to land there and cycle down south to invade the peninsula
 

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If you were to compare achievements and self enrichment, the Johor setan...oops..sultan is nowhere near the old man's stature.
Born with a silver spoon, and into one of the richest state, he basically did not do anything except to enrich himself. The only thing he can do is bullying and encroach upon other's business venture and that also only in his state.
Outside his state the other sultans mock his as a boy scout because his ancestors stole the throne and he has not an ounce or royalty. In fact it's all tainted by European genes.
All the royals are jiak liao bee. But from what I've heard from a local, the Johore sultan has personally spoke out to maintain racial harmony in his state. Maybe this rubbed Malays the wrong way. I don't know. But from what I've heard he's popular with most johorean chinese
 

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All the royals are jiak liao bee. But from what I've heard from a local, the Johore sultan has personally spoke out to maintain racial harmony in his state. Maybe this rubbed Malays the wrong way. I don't know. But from what I've heard he's popular with most johorean chinese
Yes. I think this one must give credit to the fat Sultan and his ancestors. The Chinese in Johore thrives due to the backing and support of the Royal Family. They also have this special position of Captain Cina , a community leader appointed by the Sultan as his personal adviser. The Sultan in the past have been known to pay for the repair works of houses belonging to rural Chinese families that were destroyed by floods. Some lucky ones were even given new houses by the Sultan to replace their battered old houses. That's why the Royal Family is very popular with the Chinese in Johore.
 

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The former southern Thai/northern Malaysia territories were ceded to Malaysia because the Thais collaborated with the Japs during ww2 .. they allowed the Japs to land there and cycle down south to invade the peninsula
I must mention this. Venture further into the rural kampongs of Northern Matland where there are still many Thai communities there. I encountered these mixed Siam/Malay exotic beauties riding their Honda Kapcai bikes around their kampongs in the past when visiting a Thai master.
 

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It’s already a burden to feed a queen and her entire clan. Can you imagine it’s x9 for Malaysia. The wise Royals simply keep their mouth shut and enjoy the riches quietly. Selling away prime freehold state land to foreigners is treason. Abolish the Sultanates, starting with Johor.
 

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Recently Kedah state government demanded Penang pay them RM100 million annually. Stupid reason by them was that Penang was leased by the then Sultan of Kedah to the British many many moons ago. Of course Penang gave them the middle finger. If all one to claim their past lands and territories, maybe Thailand can also lay claim to all of the northern Matland states that used to be under their rule.
history is a can of worms. morons who claim land or islands to be part of their past territories are digging themselves cesspits which they will be buried in. if his bs is legit, indon can easily bring up their once proud and mighty majapahit empire and claim sovereignty over almost all of south east asia archipelago. it never ends. same shit with prc making their bs claims in south east asia based on their perverted interpretation of history. bunch of morons.
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history is a can of worms. morons who claim land or islands to be part of their past territories are digging themselves cesspits which they will be buried in. if his bs is legit, indon can easily bring up their once proud and mighty majapahit empire and claim sovereignty over almost all of south east asia archipelago. it never ends. same shit with prc making their bs claims in south east asia based on their perverted interpretation of history. bunch of morons.
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Why? PRC’s claims on Europe is legitimate, I met a girl in Hungary who is direct descendant of Genghiz Cunt when he conquered Europe :biggrin:
 

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Why? PRC’s claims on Europe is legitimate, I met a girl in Hungary who is direct descendant of Genghiz Cunt when he conquered Europe :biggrin:
genghizzel cunt not tiong nor chink lah. in that case mongolia can claim sovereignty over all of prc, including parts of russia and whole of siberia. moreover, mongols (not chink with emphasis) did not conquer all of europe. just part of eastern europe. and do you know that mongolia together with soviets in central asia defeated a sizable jap army in the early years of ww2 at the mongolia border with manchuria? this is why japs abandoned any mischief beyond the chinese and manchurian borders towards soviet and mongolian territories in the far east. they got their butts kicked in 1939.
 

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If he wants to go there then the indons will also have a legitimate claim to Sarawak and Sabah. Both were carved out by the colonial powers as British Borneo and became a sore point for Indonesia under president Sukarno.
Actually no. Sarawak, sabah, kslimantan and parts of philippines at one time was under Brunei.
When the Spanish landed in manila, i believe it was then under brunei territory.
Brunei ceded sabah to sulu sultanate to reign on piracy. Similarly gave away huge chunks of sarawak to rajah Brookes.
 

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It's a tit for tat by Mahathir after Johor Sultan recently mentioned about Langkawi. All this due to the lost of Pedra Branca that the fat Sultan is still feeling sore about. Wily Mahathir has many tricks up his sleeve to irritate the Johor Royal Family. Love him or hate him, only Mahathir has the balls to piss off the Johor Sultan and put him in his place. Even Anwar fears antagonising the Fat Hippo Sultan and his upstart crown Prince son.
Current sultanate is not that of the Malacca throne. They sort of filled in when nobody from the Malacca sultanate wanted the sit.
 

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If you were to compare achievements and self enrichment, the Johor setan...oops..sultan is nowhere near the old man's stature.
Born with a silver spoon, and into one of the richest state, he basically did not do anything except to enrich himself. The only thing he can do is bullying and encroach upon other's business venture and that also only in his state.
Outside his state the other sultans mock his as a boy scout because his ancestors stole the throne and he has not an ounce or royalty. In fact it's all tainted by European genes.
Two other states are from same bugis pirate / mercenaries ancestry as sultan of johote. Selangor and pahang.
The only lineage that can be traced to malacca sultanate is perak.
Kedah has the longest surviving monarchy which started during the hindu/ Buddhist kingdom era maybe 1000 years ago.
Johore sultan still export sand via barges to sinkie for land reclamation despite export ban. I believe the rate he got is $19/MT. Not sure which currency they used.sand comes from sungei johore.
Pahang monarchy export marine sand to china. FOB usd9.50/ MT maybe.these are dredged from sea floor. Not sure if it's still continuing. So those reclaimed south china sea islsnds could be from sand supplied by these royals.
 
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