LTA : Distance-based vs ERP pricing

[CENWEN]

Distance-based vs ERP pricing

Motorists in S'pore could soon be charged based on the distance they travel rather than at specific points like ERP gantries.
LTA researching on viability of distance—based road pricing

<cite class="auth">Channel NewsAsia - Thursday, November 6
</cite>SINGAPORE: Distance—based charging is the next step when it comes to road pricing in Singapore. This is where motorists are charged based on the distance they travel on congested roads, using GPS technology.

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</noscript>Currently, Singapore motorists are charged at specific points when they enter congested areas, using Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) gantries. The Land Transport Authority (LTA) has been working with potential suppliers to test different satellite systems for the past couple of years. However, at the Urban Transport Leaders Summit on Wednesday, its chief engineer said there is no complete solution in sight yet. Dr Chin Kian Keong, group director, Road Operations & Community, LTA, said: "No one system has been demonstrated to be working at integrated levels. So again, we have to take a cautious approach and watch what is happening in other countries." No timeline has been set for moving to this next stage of road pricing. Such fine—tuning where motorists pay for the problems they cause is getting increasingly common around the world, according to urban planners at the conference. For example, a pollution tax is what a few countries are suggesting. Professor David Hensher, director, Institute of Transport & Logistics, University of Sydney, said: "You are driving your nice, fancy Mercedes car which has got eight cylinders and high litres per hundred kilometres, and you are paying no more per kilometre than someone driving a very fuel—efficient small car that’s taking up less road space and in fact, polluting the atmosphere far less." Separately, LTA also signed a memorandum on Wednesday with six key partners to explore new solutions to urban transport problems.

— CNA/so/ls

• Transport Min. Lim opens LTA academy

 

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Transport Minister Lim opens LTA Academy’s new premises

Transport Minister Lim opens LTA Academy’s new premises

<cite class="auth">Channel NewsAsia - Thursday, November 6</cite>
SINGAPORE: While Singapore may have been the first country to introduce road pricing to ease congestion in 1975, few people realised that the roots of the scheme were in a report submitted to the UK government as far back as 1964.

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</noscript>Going forward, Transport Minister Raymond Lim said the current Electronic Road Pricing system will continue to be refined by studying the experiences of other cities like London and Stockholm. Mr Lim was speaking at the launch on Tuesday of the inaugural World Urban Transport Leaders Summit, where about a hundred high level planners from 30 countries shared their transport problems and ideas. Mr Lim also officially opened the new premises of the LTA Academy, which is an institution established two years ago to exchange ideas and expertise.
— CNA/yt

 

[Microsoft]

HUH?? Sound like in future all pvt car owner become taxi driver of their own lidat...

 

[popdod]

Property agents will get the hit.

:o :( :o

 

[angie II]

Re: Transport Minister Lim opens LTA Academy’s new premises

<cite class="auth">Channel NewsAsia - Thursday, November 6</cite>
SINGAPORE: While Singapore may have been the first country to introduce road pricing to ease congestion in 1975, few people realised that the roots of the scheme were in a report submitted to the UK government as far back as 1964.
— CNA/yt

wtf? r we supposed 2 be LEEling proud of dat?

 

[VeryWise]

Re: Transport Minister Lim opens LTA Academy’s new premises

Will they take away road tax if this is implemented? At first look, it's a very fair scheme, you pay what you use. However, closer examination will reveal some flaws. What is a fair amount per KM? If I'm moving within my/private compound (say if the place is private carpark, etc)? What is the cost of implementing such system? Is there an invasion of my privacy? So my co/gf/wife/anyone can track where I have been? Do we get our basic human right? There are many questions need to be answered.

 

[Bigfuck]

Big brother tracks and taxes you. Next time, no need parking wardens anymore. Next time go Geylang your car automatically live feature on stomp

 

[ah_phah]

its a darn stupid concept that is slapping their own faces.

COE, was to qualify people for owning their coffin on wheels for 10yrs.
road tax, was to qualify vehicle owners to use the roads
ERP, was a premium to pay for smoother traffic, but proven failure

now they wanna charge in addition to distance for travel? so that contradicts road tax & ERP.

 

[newyorker88]

its a darn stupid concept that is slapping their own faces.

now they wanna charge in addition to distance for travel? so that contradicts road tax & ERP.

In short, they want $$$$, not solving road problems.

 

[sage]

Locals voted for this anyway. Foreigners will find this invasion of privacy and run counter to world class city. Movements akin to tagged prisoners on day release.

 

[ah_phah]

its a darn stupid concept that is slapping their own faces.

COE, was to qualify people for owning their coffin on wheels for 10yrs.
road tax, was to qualify vehicle owners to use the roads
ERP, was a premium to pay for smoother traffic, but proven failure

now they wanna charge in addition to distance for travel? so that contradicts road tax & ERP.

In short, they want $$$$, not solving road problems.

i really wonder which idiotic scholar came up with this stupid proposal. they might as well just implement;

COE for COE, bid for COE in order to own COE before buying car
tariff for road tax, pay for automation & electrical tariff for traffic & street lights, on top of road tax in order to use the roads.
tariff for ERP, pay for automation & electrical tariff for ERP network

and now, on top of road tax & ERP, vehicle owners soon gotta pay for distance traveled, on top of the fuel & mileage maintenance.

really ridiculous.

 

[ah_phah]

Property agents will get the hit.

:o :( :o

property agents not so bad la. soon, taxi drivers all convert to trishaws

 

[angie II]

taxi drivers all convert to trishaws

save the earth, go green :p

 

[Glaringly]

property agents not so bad la. soon, taxi drivers all convert to trishaws

Good idea!

Trishaws can be fitted with electric motor and operate in ERP congested area for delivering goods and passenger. Ah Pek no need to use leg power.

 

[williamsF1]

property agents not so bad la. soon, taxi drivers all convert to trishaws

wah! then lidat, also become more classic, maybe can attract more tourists come sg.

 

[Devil Within]

Distance-based vs ERP pricing

Motorists in S'pore could soon be charged based on the distance they travel rather than at specific points like ERP gantries.
LTA researching on viability of distance—based road pricing

I thought the petrol tax was for that isn't it? The more you travel, the more petrol you use, hence the more tax you will have to pay for the petrol. Now double tax?

When will Singaporean wake up to realise how money hungry is our govt.
:(

 

[sage]

Big brother tracks and taxes you. Next time, no need parking wardens anymore. Next time go Geylang your car automatically live feature on stomp

Hope those meis meis do not get the idea, the longer you ride to destination the more you pay, the faster you cum the more you save.